adam & eve??? - DFWstangs Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 06:30 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,216
Question adam & eve???

who thinks that the apple is just symbolism, and it represents eve having sex with satan?

just curious
dallasstars281 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 07:06 AM
98 SVT Cobra
 
MoonDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central IL
Posts: 5,109
No, I believe there was actually a tree with fruit on it that was eaten by both Eve and then Adam, although I have heard this theory before. Throughout the OT when two people had sex it says that they "knew" each other. It does not say that the serpent knew Eve but it does say that Adam knew Eve.

Disclaimer:
No other posters were flamed, ridiculed, persecuted, belittled, berated, judged or otherwise in the making of the above-posted reply. It is with respect all are asked to observe this and to provide the same courtesy bestowed upon those who have posted and those who will post. Yada, Yada, doublespeak and so forth!
MoonDog is offline  
post #3 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 09:25 AM
Out
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 41,952
I heard the theory it meant she did the dirty with Satan, and when she went back to Adam, she showed him what she learned. Also, people believe that Cain is the outcome of the first shaggin'.
Denny is offline  
 
post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 09:26 AM
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 421
It was actual fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. That is why God expelled them from the garden and set the angel to guard the entrance so they would not then eat of the tree of life.
four5.0snomore is offline  
post #5 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 09:39 AM
98 SVT Cobra
 
MoonDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central IL
Posts: 5,109
Quote:
Originally posted by Denny
I heard the theory it meant she did the dirty with Satan, and when she went back to Adam, she showed him what she learned. Also, people believe that Cain is the outcome of the first shaggin'.
I would really like to know how people come to these kinds of conclusions. It is mind-boggling. I could read that passage a million times and that would never even come to mind.
MoonDog is offline  
post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 10:04 AM
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 421
Quote:
Originally posted by MoonDog
I would really like to know how people come to these kinds of conclusions. It is mind-boggling. I could read that passage a million times and that would never even come to mind.
Matthew 24 & Mark 13
four5.0snomore is offline  
post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 10:33 AM
98 SVT Cobra
 
MoonDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central IL
Posts: 5,109
Quote:
Originally posted by four5.0snomore
Matthew 24 & Mark 13
Am I missing something, what do signs of the end times and Jesus' return have to do with Satan and Eve?
MoonDog is offline  
post #8 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 10:47 AM
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 421
Quote:
Originally posted by MoonDog
Am I missing something, what do signs of the end times and Jesus' return have to do with Satan and Eve?
Mark 13:5-6 Jesus said to them: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 6Many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and will deceive many.

Randy, I was pointing out that in these times there are many deceivers. People who come up with these ludicrous ideas are not a few. Jesus warned us to be on the look out! That's all...
four5.0snomore is offline  
post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 11:44 AM
98 SVT Cobra
 
MoonDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central IL
Posts: 5,109
OK, I was confused for a moment. I see what your talking about now.
MoonDog is offline  
post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 12:11 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,216
yeah i heard from a preacher cant remember his name. that certain scenario i have mixed fellings about. but i havent really studied that issue. i mite have to now.
dallasstars281 is offline  
post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 02:17 PM
TWIN SPINNER
 
Josh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: At Work
Posts: 3,208
The Satan Seed Theory.

I studied it now long ago. Too many holes in the theory that can not be filled.

Basically the theory is as stated above. Satan, in an effort to destroy the eventuallity of a Messiah attempted to corrupt the bloodline of man. Same basic idea as the Nephilim. The theory contends that the trees refered to men, because trees are often a personification in scripture. The eating of the forbidden fruit was actually sex with Satan. Cain was the first born son of Satan. Interesting but not working for me.

My car is for sale!
EBay Link
Josh is offline  
post #12 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 06:21 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 2,216
Quote:
Originally posted by Josh
The Satan Seed Theory.

I studied it now long ago. Too many holes in the theory that can not be filled.

Basically the theory is as stated above. Satan, in an effort to destroy the eventuallity of a Messiah attempted to corrupt the bloodline of man. Same basic idea as the Nephilim. The theory contends that the trees refered to men, because trees are often a personification in scripture. The eating of the forbidden fruit was actually sex with Satan. Cain was the first born son of Satan. Interesting but not working for me.
thats the theory the preacher talked about. like u said it has a few loopholes. ill research this theory.
dallasstars281 is offline  
post #13 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 06:28 PM
Lifer
 
46Tbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 33,187
After 4,000 years... why is this even a question?
46Tbird is offline  
post #14 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-19-2004, 07:05 PM
TWIN SPINNER
 
Josh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: At Work
Posts: 3,208
6000 years.

I'll share my thoughts on the shortcomings of the theory later.

My car is for sale!
EBay Link
Josh is offline  
post #15 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-21-2004, 06:40 AM
Saved by Grace
 
72Comet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 870
This really does take some research, but can be backed by scripture. Cain is not listed in Adams geneolgly, therefore not his son. Geneis 3.15 states that God would put ill will or enemy [emeity] between Satan and Eves seed, so this would not happen again. John 8.44 states Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and Cain commited the first murder. Here's another take on it, if Satan did have sex with Eve and the symbolism for the fruit is sex and another meaning of ate [to consume] then Adam had the first homosexual experience. Its a lot easier to think it was an apple right?
72Comet is offline  
post #16 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-22-2004, 08:49 AM
98 SVT Cobra
 
MoonDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central IL
Posts: 5,109
Quote:
Originally posted by 72Comet
This really does take some research, but can be backed by scripture. Cain is not listed in Adams geneolgly, therefore not his son. Geneis 3.15 states that God would put ill will or enemy [emeity] between Satan and Eves seed, so this would not happen again. John 8.44 states Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and Cain commited the first murder. Here's another take on it, if Satan did have sex with Eve and the symbolism for the fruit is sex and another meaning of ate [to consume] then Adam had the first homosexual experience. Its a lot easier to think it was an apple right?
If that is not a twist on scripture I dont know what is.

Seth is the only one listed in his geneology because that is the lineage that Jesus came from. Besides, it says:
Quote:
Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bore Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Plain as day that Cain was Adams son.
MoonDog is offline  
post #17 of 18 (permalink) Old 05-24-2004, 09:58 AM
TWIN SPINNER
 
Josh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: At Work
Posts: 3,208
And...God said that you may eat the fruit of all the trees in the Garden but you may not eat of the Tree of Life nor the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. So if we are to believe that the Tree was the personification of Satan and that the fruit is sex, than we must also believe that every tree was a personification of somebady. So Eve was free to have sex with anyone in the Garden but not Satan? Or God? (The Tree of Life)
Josh is offline  
post #18 of 18 (permalink) Old 06-07-2004, 10:26 PM
Time Served
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Bone stock racing inc.
Posts: 296
Quote:
Originally posted by Josh
The Satan Seed Theory.

I studied it now long ago. Too many holes in the theory that can not be filled.

Basically the theory is as stated above. Satan, in an effort to destroy the eventuallity of a Messiah attempted to corrupt the bloodline of man. Same basic idea as the Nephilim. The theory contends that the trees refered to men, because trees are often a personification in scripture. The eating of the forbidden fruit was actually sex with Satan. Cain was the first born son of Satan. Interesting but not working for me.
I agree, I have never heard this theory, and now that I have I totally diagree with the idea of symbolizm. Gods word is Truth, take it for what is says.

"for all have sinned, and fall short of the Glory of God, and are justified freely by His Grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus" Romans 3:23
93cobrasvt is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the DFWstangs Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome