Originally posted by Nickys Shotgun
That's actually impossible btw. If it had been translated from arabic (or whatever tongue it was originally written, maybe aramiac I can't remember) into middle english literally, then it wouldn't have made any sense.
Just like you can't literally translate spanish into english. But you can get real close. But real close isn't right on the nose now is it?
Besides, the King James bible was translated during the renaissance. Do you really believe that no one took artistic freedom with the book?
And besides, insulting somebody for what they believe is what causes wars, my friend. So just have an intelligent conversation, rather than starting something that belongs in the smackatorium.
You just proved your ignorance by your intellegent reply, grow up. Young punk kids.
OK, lest see if I can explain this so that everyone can easily understand. The Masoretic Text, which is the original Hebrew and Greek tests, is what has been used to create our current bible. The KJV has never been used for translation. Every Bible that we have, KJV, NKJV, NIV, American Standard, Good News, Youngs Literal, the list goes on and on, have used the Masoretic Text to translate from. The Masoretic Text dates back to around 1000 AD.
In 1947 the Dead Sea Scrolls were first discovered at Qumran. All of these tests predate Jesus to around ~100 BC, the oldest of which is the famous Isaiah 53 Scroll which dates to ~200 BC. That is only 500 years after Isaiah was actually written.
A comparison of the Masoretic Text to this earlier text revealed a remarkable accuracy with which scribes copied these sacred texts. Accordingly, the integrity of the Bible was confirmed, and has confirmed that any thought of textual alteration was untrue.
The texts from Qumran proved to be word-for-word identical to our standard Hebrew Bible in more than 95 percent of the text. The 5 percent of variation consisted primarily of obvious slips of the pen and spelling alterations. There were no major doctrinal differences
between the Masoretic Text and Qumran texts. This demonstrates the accuracy with which scribes copied sacred texts, and boosts our confidence in the Bible’s integrity.
Originally posted by Hawse771
Once again all you did was repeat yourself instead of answering my question..How is your religion more right then Jews..? How about the muslims..they have religious artifacts and stories that date back just as far as christians so how are they wrong and ours right?
I wasn't merely repeating myself, I was clarifying your statements.
How is MY relationship with God
more right then Jews..? How about the muslims..? I will tell you. The prophetic word that is written thoughout the OT. There are hundreds of prophetic passages in the OT dealing with the Messiah, who He is, where He will live, what He will do, even when He will come. HUH? When He will come? Thats right. In Daniel 9:25-27 it says that God has determined 490 years for His people "to finish the transgression". It goes on to say that from the rebuilding of Jerusalem unto the Messiah will be 483 years. A decree was issued in 457 BC, to rebuild Jerusalem, this is the starting point for the 483 years and goes to 27AD, the very year Jesus began His ministry.
So we KNOW that Jesus is the Messiah through Gods prophetic word. Now in the NT it says in Ephesians 2:8-9 that it is by grace that we are saved and not by works. If we are not saved by doing good deeds but instead by the grace of God, how does Jesus being the Messiah come into play?
1 Timothy 2:5 says that there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Romans 10:9 says that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
It is by grace through Jesus Christ that God saves us. John 3:16 God loved us so much that He allowed His Son to die for us that if we would only believe in Him that would would not die but live eternally with Him.
Originally posted by Hawse771
Do you honestly think God would let 4/5ths of the world go to hell because of the way they were brought up..if so you are completely ignorant and must think our creator is very cruel..a kid that is born into a muslim society for instance that lives in poverty in india or wherever would have no chance at controlling his religion..and if he died at a young age you're trying to tell me he would go to hell no matter how good of a life he lived..thats just ridiculous and you should know better..how many christians go home and beat their wives/children huh? A LOT! so no being a christian is not your ticket into heaven, (assuming it exists) If you believe so you still have much to learn in life
Hey Lance (281r)! Your Lutheran right? Are they teaching you guys that salvation comes by good works in church these days. It doesn't matter what you believe anymore? You can be a Muslim or a Hindu or Mormon as long as you are a good little boy? Might be time to find a new church buddy.