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opinions on ify things.....

what are everyones opinions on

drinking alcohol
smoking
tatoos
ect ect

i know what mine are, just wanted to know what every one else thinks

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Re: opinions on ify things.....

drinking alcohol= ok in moderation as long as it dosent control you (drunk=bad)
smoking= bad for lungs and very expensive habit
tatoos= your preference, but I dont perfer them
dipping= bad for your gums and nasty expensive habit
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Re: opinions on ify things.....

drinking alcohol = HELL YEAH! J/k. Fine in moderation, as is pretty much anything in life.
smoking = Nasty.
tatoos = Ok with 'em, but I don't have any, nor have any plans for any.

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1Co 10:23 All things are lawful to me, but not all things profit. All things are lawful to me, but not all things build up.
In other words some people say that we can do whatever we want to, true, but not everything may be good or helpful. If it isn't against the laws of the land then it is ok as long as it is in moderation. Once it becomes a habit or a crutch then it becomes nothing less than sin.

That being said.
drinking alcohol = ok but drunkeness is a no no.
smoking = nasty habit and does not do the body good.
tattoos = I have one, wish I didn't. I think they are ok as long as you don't tatoo your whole body.
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you guys are about the same as me
i think to have a drink or two is ok, but drunkedness is a sin
smoking is nasty and you prob sholdn't, butif you do then it is your perogative
tatoos are ok- i have 4

but i think that if you haol a certain posistion in church some of these things are void.
like drinking, it says in timothy that if you are a deacon you can have little wine but if you are a bishop no wine, ect ect
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but i think that if you haol a certain posistion in church some of these things are void.
like drinking, it says in timothy that if you are a deacon you can have little wine but if you are a bishop no wine, ect ect
I kinda disagree, I think that in Timothy where it says that Bishops are to be sober and not given to wine that it is still saying that they are not to be drunk. I dont think that it is saying that they can not drink at all.

sober is the greek word sōphrōn meaning of sound mind, self controlled.

given to wine is the greek word paroinos meaning staying near wine, escape along, be gone, (same as the hebrew intoxication).
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sober is the greek word sōphrōn meaning of sound mind, self controlled.

given to wine is the greek word paroinos meaning staying near wine, escape along, be gone, (same as the hebrew intoxication). [/B][/QUOTE]
then what do you think about a pastor/preacher ect
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A pastor and/or preacher is in a position of leading by example. If he is going to preach against it then he must also stand by his word. But on the other hand, the Bible does not speak against drinking, only drunkeness. So a pastor and/or preacher needs to also exercise self control in those situations just like everyone else.
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sober is the greek word sōphrōn meaning of sound mind, self controlled.

given to wine is the greek word paroinos meaning staying near wine, escape along, be gone, (same as the hebrew intoxication).
then what do you think about a pastor/preacher ect
I think a pastor has every right to drink as you or I do as long as he dose it responsibly. Jesus even himself drank wine with His disciples.
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Of course he did!

Ever known a carpenter that didn't drink? I bet if they had Bud Light 2000 years ago, he would have preferred that to wine.
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Naw, he would have drank Maccabee beer.

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If I recall correctly, wine was pretty staple back then. Kind of like the french drink wine a lot with dinner and even start children off pretty young.

Also, your body is temple for the Lord and anything that pollutes the temple is bad (aka smoking, etc). Drinking in moderation is not bad. Just my .02, though.
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I think its all SUPER. With the exception of smoking. Add peircings up there.
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I think its all SUPER. With the exception of smoking. Add peircings up there.
I would say the samething about peircings. Some are pretty cool, maybe even sexy (oops, did I just say that?) but I think there is a point when it becomes to much. A few here and there is OK but when you get into peircing every inch of your body, you have a problem.
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I would say the samething about peircings. Some are pretty cool, maybe even sexy (oops, did I just say that?) but I think there is a point when it becomes to much. A few here and there is OK but when you get into peircing every inch of your body, you have a problem.
i kinda disagree. i see it as a form of self expression. and if that is what you want to do then you have the right. some people critisize (sp?) me for having two many tatoos, but i know alot of other people that have alo more than i do. also, dan, "your body is the temple of Christ" 1 cor 3:16-17, i think that verse is taken out of context. check and see what paul defined as defying the temple.
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I am saying that some tatoos and peircings are Ok, it is just that when they start to draw attention to you then you have gone to far with it.
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I am saying that some tatoos and peircings are Ok, it is just that when they start to draw attention to you then you have gone to far with it.
Well I think it is ok as long as it is not harming yourself. Like smoking and etc. But Tatoos and piercings in places other than your ears or belly button is just not tastefull to me. Not saying that it is wrong, but IMO I dont like it.
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I am saying that some tatoos and peircings are Ok, it is just that when they start to draw attention to you then you have gone to far with it.



Why? Some people need attention any way they can get it. More power to them for finding a way to get it. Doesn't mean I personally am going to go and tattoo myself into a gigantic puzzle like The Enigma, but what does it really harm?
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Have you ever looked at a tatoo mag? Most (not all) of the ones that get excessively tatoo-ed don't do it to promote their religon. They do promote drugs by showing needles and syringes, and sex with half dressed women and even the devil with his demons. Now is some tribal art on your arm bad? I would say no. Is it bad to tatoo Bible versus all over your body? Probably not. But that doesn't get the attention that one who would do such a thing wants.
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