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Well I got laid off again. I'm in the engineering field and they are really doing bad right now. I'm a CAD drafter. I have been for 10 years. I need the income so if you guys know of a postion out there I haven't already applied for let me know. I'll do just about anything. It's time to get into a new field of work.

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Might be time for some contract stuff if you can find any. If you are good, can manager your time and can get your foot in the door, I'm pretty sure there is money to be made out there. Just have to find some clients. And some equipment if you don't have any. Prints can be had at many locations but I would guess most would want stuff on a disc.

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have been trying that route but that's slim pickins. That's why I'm thinking a career change may be coming my way soon. You guys hiring?

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Thanks man I already applied for those. Thanks for the heads up tho. I need all the help I can get.

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Honestly I'm thinking a bartender would be great. Money sucks...let's go drink. Money's great...let's go drink. Anyone wanna hire me. I'm a fast learner and I always end up playing bartender at parties.

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Any oil/gas experience? Well planning type stuff?

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Worked as a state inspector at my parents oil and lube. Pretty odd seeing a girl come out to inspect your jacked up 4x4 that's held together w/ bailing wire. That's as close as I get. I can always learn.

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Hahaha, not what I meant but I hear ya. I deal with a lot of CAD people, but I know they would definitely want oil field experienced people. Rigs, not Jiffy Lube Good luck!

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No prob...If ya chang your mind on the training I'm here. Thanks man.

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Yep it's ugly times out there right now. I too find myself looking.... companies are trying to improve profits by laying off people instead of making products and increasing sales...... it's a vicious cycle that will have its end one way or another.

This is why every Harvard MBA should be taken out and shot. They thought they could export all the work to China and make big money...... apparently they also thought they could do it forever. They made money for themselves but bankrupt an entire country to do it.

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From the context, I would guess that jenholley is a girl.

You guys dissappoint me...

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Posting pics of tits would help in the job field assessment.

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lol...thanks Dustin. I'll keep that in mind for my next interview. They did help me get my picture in the June 2007 edition of The Horse magizine. Crappy pic I thought.

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Any leads on a job are helpful.

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I use oil. I like oil. I even sell to individuals and companies in the oil business, so what do you have? That's the industry I want to break into.

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Well I applied for a pool place deisgning pools today. Got turned down today too because they want 2 years designing pools. I can learn...and I can be hired at a cheaper price cuz I have to learn. DAMNIT!!! Contacted a bartending school for info. I was hoping to have something even a 3 month gig while I'm schooled in how to make a great rita.

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Well I applied for a pool place deisgning pools today. Got turned down today too because they want 2 years designing pools. I can learn...and I can be hired at a cheaper price cuz I have to learn. DAMNIT!!! Contacted a bartending school for info. I was hoping to have something even a 3 month gig while I'm schooled in how to make a great rita.
I remember seeing somewhere on here that most bars don't care about bartending "graduates." If you're an attractive, young adult...especially a female, that's going to be the best thing going for you if you're looking to bar tend.
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I remember seeing somewhere on here that most bars don't care about bartending "graduates." If you're an attractive, young adult...especially a female, that's going to be the best thing going for you if you're looking to bar tend.
I keep finding they are wanting TABC certified. Don't know where I need to take the test for that at. I figured a school. If I don't then that's cool.

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I keep finding they are wanting TABC certified. Don't know where I need to take the test for that at. I figured a school. If I don't then that's cool.
It's a piece of paper or card that says you are old enough to serve alcohol and not a criminal.... I have a friend that got his so he can schlep beer at the Cowboys games. He's been doing it for about 5 years now.

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It's probably about as difficult as the food safety exam I took 10+ years ago to work in a restaurant and deliver pizza.

I bet you could have this done in a day.
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lol...thanks Dustin. I'll keep that in mind for my next interview. They did help me get my picture in the June 2007 edition of The Horse magizine. Crappy pic I thought.
If they would only post you in horse magazine, I may not want to see tit pics...

But, for the record, I was talking about posting the tit pics here.

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If they would only post you in horse magazine, I may not want to see tit pics...

But, for the record, I was talking about posting the tit pics here.
Wow...not sure if that's an insult or compliment.

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Well had a phone interview today. Have a face to face set up next week. Sorry Dustin, I didn't get a chance to show off my tits.

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Well had a phone interview today. Have a face to face set up next week. Sorry Dustin, I didn't get a chance to show off my tits.
Here's to some good luck, hopefully it works out for ya..

I'm in the same position as you as of today. I was a CAD drafter for one of the leading Post-Tension suppliers in the southern region for elevated decks, high rise, ect. up until a few hours ago.. Im seriously contemplating a career change.

I enjoyed working with a lot of these complex structures but I would like to find something to split my time between office/field work. Let us know how your interview goes.

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Here's to some good luck, hopefully it works out for ya..

I'm in the same position as you as of today. I was a CAD drafter for one of the leading Post-Tension suppliers in the southern region for elevated decks, high rise, ect. up until a few hours ago.. Im seriously contemplating a career change.

I enjoyed working with a lot of these complex structures but I would like to find something to split my time between office/field work. Let us know how your interview goes.

Will do!!!

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Well had a phone interview today. Have a face to face set up next week. Sorry Dustin, I didn't get a chance to show off my tits.
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ouch, you guys doing 3d modeling and CAD work? I was seriously considering going to school for that. Is that market complete shit too? sigh......where are the fucking jobs!! Guess we need to move to china or india.

I agree, we need to shoot the harvard MBA fags that thought throwing americans on their asses was a good idea. Jackasses!

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ouch, you guys doing 3d modeling and CAD work? I was seriously considering going to school for that. Is that market complete shit too? sigh......where are the fucking jobs!! Guess we need to move to china or india.

I agree, we need to shoot the harvard MBA fags that thought throwing americans on their asses was a good idea. Jackasses!
Don't go to school for it. I can name you fortune 500 companies farming their CAD out to India right now.....

They have a contingent of Indian guys in the US, they call India at night and e-mail files to them. They have the completed junk to turn in the next morning when the US company opens. They do this for a huge discount price too.

I'm not going to get into the specifics of building proper engineering models that can be edited, modified, revised etc. and explain why their CAD work is total shit, but it is. It looks good at 8am though to the management types and on the bottom line.

I'm sure some other Harvard MBA came up with this seemingly brilliant idea too.

I've been the engineer on this end trying to update, fix or edit some of their shoddy CAD work. It blows.

Every company in the US is currently farming out anything and everything they can to make a nice tidy quarterly profit to drive up stock prices, their own children be damned.
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Don't go to school for it. I can name you fortune 500 companies farming their CAD out to India right now.....

They have a contingent of Indian guys in the US, they call India at night and e-mail files to them. They have the completed junk to turn in the next morning when the US company opens. They do this for a huge discount price too.

I'm not going to get into the specifics of building proper engineering models that can be edited, modified, revised etc. and explain why their CAD work is total shit, but it is. It looks good at 8am though to the management types and on the bottom line.

I'm sure some other Harvard MBA came up with this seemingly brilliant idea too.

I've been the engineer on this end trying to update, fix or edit some of their shoddy CAD work. It blows.

Every company in the US is currently farming out anything and everything they can to make a nice tidy quarterly profit to drive up stock prices, their own children be damned.
wonderful...oh but wait...were supposed to compete remember?! You guys ready to start working for chinese and indian wages yet? I view this as americas number one problem. We spend a shitload of money on all kinds of shit, including being world police and then they allow companies to put americans out of work so they can go exploit slave wages in some other country. Such bullshit.

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We have resorted to not driving and making our own bread because money is so bad. I wanna be able to compete w/ the tallent that's out there. I did go to school. I was the first girl to graduate w/ a 3D project where I went. It wasn't a pushed thing at back in '98 when I went.

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We have resorted to not driving and making our own bread because money is so bad. I wanna be able to compete w/ the tallent that's out there. I did go to school. I was the first girl to graduate w/ a 3D project where I went. It wasn't a pushed thing at back in '98 when I went.
The talent is irrelvent, an american is every bit as talented as an indian. The ONLY different is price the companies will have to pay to get that work done. The cost of living in america compared to china, mexico and india is a joke, there is no way you can compete unless you are ready to get into a price war with the people of those countries.

To do that in this country you wont even be able to afford a one bedroom apartment or a car while they live the life most americans used to enjoy. Its either us or them, the MBAs and companies picked them over their own people and this will be the result in every single job that doesnt have to be done locally. Meanwhile they go over there and tell those people that the reason they are bringing the jobs over is because we are stupid and lazy. They cant imagine why a country would ship its own jobs away when they are dying at the chance to earn a living.

Sad part is, those countries with their enormous populations could take every single job we have and it wouldnt put a dent in their unemployment problem. Laws should have been passed decades ago requiring "american" companies to keep a high level percentage of their employees in america otherwise be cut off from tax benefits and other peaks, basically make it not worth it.

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[quote=Slammy;5941002]The talent is irrelvent, an american is every bit as talented as an indian. The ONLY different is price the companies will have to pay to get that work done.[quote]

Talent is relvent when you are out of a job and trying to get one. As for the out sourcing...we got that. I'm out of a job because of that. Every person on here has heard that by now. So no need to beat a dead horse dude.

If your so pissed about it and want to keep bitching about it then don't do it on here. Go some where your voice will be heard and will make a difference.

I'm on here networking asking for help to find a job. Not to read bitch secions.

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The talent is irrelvent, an american is every bit as talented as an indian. The ONLY different is price the companies will have to pay to get that work done. The cost of living in america compared to china, mexico and india is a joke, there is no way you can compete unless you are ready to get into a price war with the people of those countries.

To do that in this country you wont even be able to afford a one bedroom apartment or a car while they live the life most americans used to enjoy. Its either us or them, the MBAs and companies picked them over their own people and this will be the result in every single job that doesnt have to be done locally. Meanwhile they go over there and tell those people that the reason they are bringing the jobs over is because we are stupid and lazy. They cant imagine why a country would ship its own jobs away when they are dying at the chance to earn a living.

Sad part is, those countries with their enormous populations could take every single job we have and it wouldnt put a dent in their unemployment problem. Laws should have been passed decades ago requiring "american" companies to keep a high level percentage of their employees in america otherwise be cut off from tax benefits and other peaks, basically make it not worth it.
Actually there is more talent here, but talent isn't what is wanted. The only thing that matters to companies in the US anymore is the balance sheet. They don't care who is on the payroll or where the money is going, just the balance sheet.

As long as the balance sheet is good, stock prices are good and banks are fat dumb and happy. It's all about those guys with business degrees working at banks.... or you've been asleep the past two years.
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Youre right, sorry about that and my apologies. Good luck in your search

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Youre right, sorry about that and my apologies. Good luck in your search
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Even though you are looking for an alternate career path you might consider learning Catia V5. Unlike V4 the "new" version is true parametric and will be easy for you with a Pro E background. Aerospace firms in the area are still employing (and occasionally hiring) Catia drivers. These firms are just now getting into V5 heavily and many of the V4 drivers have not learned or just now learning.
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Here's to some good luck, hopefully it works out for ya..

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Well I went on the interview friday. I was really excited about it too. That was a joke. Needless to say I don't have the job. For what they are wanting to pay and the length of time they want me to work, I will make more and be more stable on unemployment. Now that really sux.

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Well I went on the interview friday. I was really excited about it too. That was a joke. Needless to say I don't have the job. For what they are wanting to pay and the length of time they want me to work, I will make more and be more stable on unemployment. Now that really sux.

I can't see your myspace....but did you own a SOM TA? Also, I completely understand your frustration of making more money on unemployment. I was laid off back in June, was lucky and found a job in August...but if this is any help:

Aldi Foods in Denton is hiring.
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Must be able to work rotating Saturday/Sundays
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Apply at:
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