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Gain size..quickly...MASS...what supplements? Roids? kidding...help me out

I am leaving for the marines in a few months.
I am a good size right now...But a few months ago i stopped lifting..and dropped 12 lbs.
I am toned..But I want to be bigger..
I started lifting again a little while ago.
I always eat healthy...Turkey..chicken...Veggies...TUNA..
I have about 3 cans of tuna a day.
1 before I lift..and 2 after

Anyone know of any supplements that have a good chance to gain mass on my body quickly?
Synthoil...Cell tech...
I have done the Creatine and Weigh protein with a hefty work out ..and I gained 10 lbs off it.

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Creatine, Protien, and a solid diet seem to be the most cost-effective way to go these days. Andro is good for motivation, but gets a little costly. Just stick with what works.

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ok

A while back..I did my own studying..and figure for the money..
That Creatine..and Weigh Protein was the best way to go.
and I went on like a 27 day supply or something like that...Gained 10-12 lbs off it.

Andro?...

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3 cans of tuna a day isn't good. It may be fat and carb free protein but, that much Fish isn't good. Mr. Mercury man!!!!!

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Hmmm

Mercury man?? why is that?

Why is that much tuna bad?
I eat a lot of salad as well..and take daily Vitamins.
All i drink is water..and Tea..which I probably shouldn't..But its better than soda.
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Re: Hmmm

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Mercury man?? why is that?

Why is that much tuna bad?
I eat a lot of salad as well..and take daily Vitamins.
All i drink is water..and Tea..which I probably shouldn't..But its better than soda.
Tuna isn't as bad as some othr types of fish like Mahi Mahi and stuff but, seafood in General has alot of Mercury in it.

Even the latest issue of IronMan says to limit your fish intake to no more than three meals a week. Even less if you're eating the high Mercury fish. (Shark, Swordfish,Mackerel)

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Damn

Its just a couple of cans of starkisst kissed..whatever...Tuna..
I didn't think it would be that bad.
What could happen if i take in to much of it?


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Damn..

I am kinda laid off lifting for a lil while...Damn..the only thing I didn't want.

Till the doc say's whatever happened in my head is ok.
Read my other post on here for details...

What doyou guys think of Animal stack?

Or the combo of taking..Andro..Creatine..and Weigh protien at the same time?
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I would not worry about building mass right now. You are going to lose it anyway, give the Corps 15 weeks with you in boot. I would place my concern on endurance and strength builders.
This from the wife of a Marine . Im a trainer and instructor.
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Thats what I was thinking

I know I really need the endurance...I ran 1 1/2 miles at our last PFT..Physical Fitness test...I placed first over 27 others there...
Ran that 1 1/2 in 9:31seconds..Not bad for a guy that was weighing 189lbs at the time.

I run a lot...I also swim a lot..Great all around work out..

I just posted this up..cause I like feeling big.

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From a former Marine and perenial 300 PFT'er. (300 is a perfect PFT)7

One you need to work on your run. You will need to get your first 1.5 miles down under 8.7 min. (18min 3 miles will get you a 100 points (perfect))

You need to work on upperbody (pound for pound) strength. IE... Lats, tri's, bi's and all torso muscles.

Last you will want to do lots, I mean lots of ab's.

This being said if you want to do it w/ out Roids you will want to take in 200-300 grams of whey protien per day. 10-20grams of Creatine per day and 20-25 grams of Glutemine per day. If you combine this w/ a clean diet and good workouts you should see some good results.

However, if you are not scared of needles you could take 200-300 grams of protien daily, 500mgs of Testosterone per week, and 100mgs of Fina (Finaplex) everyother day you will put on @ least 20lbs of lean muscle mass. You will also increase your strength A LOT, I mean A LOT.

Its your choice...
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Re: Thats what I was thinking

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Ran that 1 1/2 in 9:31seconds..Not bad for a guy that was weighing 189lbs at the time.
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Mile and a half in 9:31 weighing 189 is purty good. Congrats.

I'm not sure of your running schedule, or if you even want to improve your time there, but I'll give my .02 (My personal best 5K (3.1 miles) is 15:39)

Get to the track at least once a week (preferrably twice) and do some intervals. Use 440s and 880s. Build up to 8x440s with a 440 recovery jog in 75 seconds. Build up to 6x800s with a 440 recovery jog in between in 2 minutes 45 seconds. Jog a mile to warm up, stretch, do the intervals, jog a mile to recover. I'm about 1.5 miles from the HS, so I run there to warm up, stretch, intervals and then run back home.

Once a week, do a long run of 7-10 miles. Once a week do a "tempo run" where you run 4-6 miles at a 6 minute and 30 second pace.

Fill up any other days you want to run with easy runs of 4-6 miles (around an 8 minute/mile pace).

The intervals will help you build up your lactate tolerance (ability to run faster and keep pace while the lactate acid builds up in your blood stream.) The long run will help you build the necessary joint, muscle and skeletal areas. The "easy days" just keep the blood flowing through the legs to help flush out the toxins. The tempo run will help you maintain pace through "pain".

If you got more than two months and already are running 1.5 miles in 9:30, you should have no problem doing 3 miles in 18 minutes doing the above for a few months.
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However, if you are not scared of needles you could take 200-300 grams of protien daily, 500mgs of Testosterone per week, and 100mgs of Fina (Finaplex) everyother day you will put on @ least 20lbs of lean muscle mass. You will also increase your strength A LOT, I mean A LOT.

Its your choice...
As will that strength decline "A LOT, I mean A LOT" when you stop taking them. I wouldn't suggest getting started of on the wrong foot. Harmful/effective or not, anabolic steroids happen to be very illegal. Do you think the corps would turn the other cheek?

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Actually w/ the doses recommended your strength decrease post cycle will be very minimal, providing you take the necessary precautions like clomid therapy. Typically you will see about a 4-5 % decrease. Not bad if you increase your strength 50-70%.

Im not here advocating the use of steroids, only giving out his options.

About the corps and turning the other cheek...They would not do so if caught. Key word is caught. They do not test for anabolic steroids to the masses, only on a case by case bases. Lets think about this for one second. The marines are in the business of killing other people. Do you really think they are going to care if you take some muscle enhancements. Do you not think that our government experiments w/ gene alterations to produce the ultimate human weapon. Is that illegal?

I dont want this to turn into a piss contest for nat vs. roids. I only want to give him some real advice and let him know that there are other options. If someone wants to spend hundreds even thousands of dollars to get strong/huge/fast/whatever naturally thatís fine, but they should know that they have options that are much more cost effective. Not to mention the amount of research that has gone into "pharmaceutical anabolic steroids" vs. the never researched non FDA approved over the counter sports supplements.
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Thanks guys.
I was really wanting to know about roids actually.. I dont like needles one bit.
I dont even know where I would get all this stuff.
but..I would like to learn more about it...and what not.
I still run and work out a lot..But not as hard as I used to.
Popping that blood vessel in my head didn't feel the greatest.
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Actually w/ the doses recommended your strength decrease post cycle will be very minimal, providing you take the necessary precautions like clomid therapy. Typically you will see about a 4-5 % decrease. Not bad if you increase your strength 50-70%.

Im not here advocating the use of steroids, only giving out his options.

About the corps and turning the other cheek...They would not do so if caught. Key word is caught. They do not test for anabolic steroids to the masses, only on a case by case bases. Lets think about this for one second. The marines are in the business of killing other people. Do you really think they are going to care if you take some muscle enhancements. Do you not think that our government experiments w/ gene alterations to produce the ultimate human weapon. Is that illegal?

I dont want this to turn into a piss contest for nat vs. roids. I only want to give him some real advice and let him know that there are other options. If someone wants to spend hundreds even thousands of dollars to get strong/huge/fast/whatever naturally thatís fine, but they should know that they have options that are much more cost effective. Not to mention the amount of research that has gone into "pharmaceutical anabolic steroids" vs. the never researched non FDA approved over the counter sports supplements.
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Although this site and it's proprietors do not advocate any illegal activity such as (but not imited to) the use of Anabolic steroids, I would like to give the sincere recommendation that you do plenty of research to educate yourself about something as potentially dangerous as Anabolic steroids. I'd be lying if I said I'd never considered it myself, but after learning the facts and educating myself on all aspects good and bad, I have found staying natural to be a very satisfying and rewarding way to stay in shape. If you do ever decide to go down the Anabolic path, please do yourself the favor of learning as much as possible before you even consider what stack or what dosages you think you need. The most important aspect of any athlete (natural or not) is the mind, make sure that's "in shape" above all else.

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Steroids are bad, like street racing.
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in that case.. i will stick to street racing.. stay 100% natural.. and stick to lifting puny weights!
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got 225lbs benchpress?
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got 225lbs benchpress?
For 12 reps, how many sets you wanna hit?
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For 12 reps, how many sets you wanna hit?
12 reps?? you doing 1/2 sets???
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For 12 reps, how many sets you wanna hit?
We warming up?
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all this testosterone is making me want to go to the gym so I can squat my 135#'s for 3 sets of 5. (thats my heavy day)
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We warming up?
naa. i max around 225lbs..
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naa. i max around 225lbs..
Kidding, my little 165lb butt maxes at 225 as well!
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all this testosterone is making me want to go to the gym so I can squat my 135#'s for 3 sets of 5. (thats my heavy day)
Those are one-legged squats, no?
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Kidding, my little 165lb butt maxes at 225 as well!
im 275.. but im weak..225 is about my max on bench right now.. gimme a month or 2 though maybe i'll get back up to 245!
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im 275.. but im weak..225 is about my max on bench right now.. gimme a month or 2 though maybe i'll get back up to 245!
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