Originally posted by AnesthesiA
I saw you post about the Hydroxycut...are you still using that stuff and what if any effects did it have on you..i.e; make you wired, stuff like that.
I don't use HydroxyCut any more. Its too $$. Im using Rip Fuel Extreme, which has all the same ingredients as Hydroxycut and Xenadrine RFA-1.
However, I noticed they all lowered the amount of standardized ephedrine to 20mg in each serving. Rip Fuel Extreme is 2 caps per serving, so I take 3 to get 30 mg in the morn and another 3 5 hours later.
At first, I felt real jittery. Just like it used to make me a long time ago when the ephedrine wasn't so low. Now, 2 weeks later, I've grown accustomed to 3 caps / serving. Next week, Im adding another cap for a total of 40mg / serving.
I don't feel weird or jittery right now and I do ok getting to sleep. My appetite has been sufficiently suppressed while on it also. Between watching my diet (its not so great, but not so bad either), 50 mins of cardio in the mornings (4-5 times / wk), Im dropping weight pretty nicely.
As far as the amount of ephedrine thats healthy, most body builders take an ECA (ephedrine, caffeine, aspirin) stack with 120mgE/400mgC and 700mgA divided in 2 individual doses.
the Rip Fuel Extreme @ 3 caps gives me 30mg E / 300mg C and I have no clue whatsoever on the WhiteWillowBark - aspirin derivitive. I'll just start taking a single aspirin which has 325mg / tablet. I have been forgetting to do so, rather than assuming the willowbark really = aspirin, although there doesn't seem to be any mention of willowbark on the aspirin bottle!
either way, hope that helps. Theres other products out there, and you can order the ingredients individually and make your own ECA stack. For me, this works and is easy and cheap enough.
(all prices are from Smoothie Factory)
Rip fuel extreme is 23 bucks for 60 servings (120 caps).
Hydroxycut was about $35 for 46.6 servings (140 caps /3 per serving).
Xenadrine is about $27.50.
Rip Fuel Xtreme: 20 mgE / 200mgC per serving | $.38 / serving
Hydroxycut: 20mgE / 200mgC per serving | $.76 / serving
Xenadrine RFA-1: 20.1mgE / 200mgC per serving / $.46 / serving
Equate Aspirin - 300 tabs @ 325mg / bottle. $3.00 / bottle = $.01 / serving.
So, you do the math. In the end, you really just want an ECA stack. RFX was the best / buck. Im sure there are some generic equivalents out there somewhere even cheaper.