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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-05-2002, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
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Dumbells or Bars?

Ok guys, I've been asking this to a few different people at the gym...and the answers vary...

So, which is better for getting 'cut', a dumbell workout or a 'bar' workout?

It seems like the guys who are cut but not very big use strictly dumbell, high rep, low weight excercises...

The guys that are bulky but not cut use nothing but bars, and low reps with high weights...

And the guys who are big and cut do a little bit of both...

Does this seem right?

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-05-2002, 06:12 PM
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Being "cut" is a function of dietary intake and cardio resulting in low bodyfat levels, not muscle size. A 6'6" basketball player can be "cut" and still have lanky arms and legs. To get cut, watch what you eat and get rid of the excess fat. Any musculature will look "cut" when lean enough. Now, for muscle size and strength (and the answer to your question), variety the key. No single exercise or type of exercise has a specific effect on a muscle group, it takes a combination of them all to keep your muscle fibers guessing and growing to accomodate what might come next. Vary weight, reps, and intensity as well or your body will stagnate and growth will come slowly.

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Ok, well, another question...

So if I work all of my muscle groups with HEAVY weight, and low reps one week...

Should I do the opposite the next week with moderate weight, and higher reps?

Or is that too long of a time to fluctuate? Or not enough time?

Should I change from heavy to moderate daily? Weekly? Bi-Weekly? etc...that's what I'm looking for..

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Ok, well, another question...

So if I work all of my muscle groups with HEAVY weight, and low reps one week...

Should I do the opposite the next week with moderate weight, and higher reps?

Or is that too long of a time to fluctuate? Or not enough time?

Should I change from heavy to moderate daily? Weekly? Bi-Weekly? etc...that's what I'm looking for..

Thanks
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It all depends on your body, it's recuperative abilities, and the type of muscle fibers a particular bodypart contains. Everybody has a different pace, my main point though, is that you not get into a rut. Try a particular plan for a few weeks and see what happens. Switch things around from there if you see an area to be improved. For a while I was doing an entire body cycle at a particular weight/rep scheme (light, moderate, heavy) and then changing it once I had worked all body parts on that scheme.

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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-06-2002, 12:44 PM
 
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I have to answer this in 2 parts. From what I've been told, it's best to use both bars and dumbells for working out, and use machines. It's good to have variation, like to choosing the medium of which to do an an exercise. Dumbells will feel different than bars and machines, plus you can concentrate on doing just one side. Also, more stabilization comes into play since you don't have any other support. With a machine though, you can isolate a particular muscle group. A bar is kind of in between in most ways. It's good to do them all. I've heard that free weights will give you more size, and machines will give you more strength.

Like Playahata said though, getting cut involves getting rid of the fat, and the only way to get rid of fat is to burn more calories than you take in.
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You can build more strength with barbell lifts but that is about it.

Machines are only good for isolation of a single muscle, if that is what you are looking for then go for it.

I mix in a little of both but always start with barbell stuff because I only lift to build strength and power, how I look is secondary to me, I don't care THAT much.
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I only lift to build strength and power, how I look is secondary to me, I don't care THAT much.
...and we can tell too...

he, j/k Al

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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 06-06-2002, 11:01 PM
 
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as mutch as i like to dissagree with playahata i have to AGREE with him on this one. your diet is the key to what you make your body look like. unless you have perfect genetics then you have to go by a strick diet regimen!!!!or its not worth setting foot in a gym, IMO!
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