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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 06-03-2002, 11:07 PM Thread Starter
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Effective abs work?

Well, I have been doing some decent cardio and ab work for about 4 weeks now. I am looking for a bit more definition there.

I tip the scales at 185lbs and am 6'2". So not in bad shape, I eat decently (2500-3500 cal/day and stay under 90fat grams/day).

Is there any particiular routines to do or should I just keep trying different stuff to see what is most effective for me?

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 06-04-2002, 12:10 AM
 
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You are still weight training right??? I hope so.
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Of course I still am. I fell shitty if I don't

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post #4 of 9 (permalink) Old 06-04-2002, 12:21 AM
 
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Probably, and you would lose muscle mass rapidly.
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Why does it disappear so quick?

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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old 06-04-2002, 12:44 AM
 
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It seems that cardio burns not only fat but muscle aswell.
As far as I understand this, once you begin running low on blood sugar, the easiest place for the body to grab it is from your protein store (red muscle). Any borrowing in this area, obviously would immediately put you in a catabolic state. That is why it is hard to lose weight and gain muscle. Someone Correct me if im wrong?
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The only way to do both efficiently is through a super-strict, but protien heavy diet and alot of patience. By focusing on either gaining weight or losing bodyfat instead of both, you are able to concentrate all calorie intake and expenditure towards that specific goal. In doing so you will be able to reach that specific goal a bit faster, but the opposing goal will suffer slight;y as a trade of for rapid results. Essentially the mechanisms and rescources that build muscle are adversly affected by those needed to burn fat, and vice versa, causing a "push/pull" effect when doing them concurrently. You can, however, tailor your program to burn fat faster, but in return muscle growth will slow (and in extreme cases halt or atrophy). Adversly, you can gain muscle a bit faster, but don't expect the pounds to melt off as quickly (if at all). If you are looking for faster results chose one or the other and stick with it until your goal is reached. Then you can work on the other, but optimally just be patient, eat and train smart, and both will come in time.

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Playahata is dead on.
Personally I think that the super strict diet to cut and gain lean mass is a waist of time. I find it much easier to bulk long and cut fast... but thats just me.
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I can't do the superstrict diet. I work too much.

Eh well, I'll just keep at what I am doing

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