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USC player is benching and drops bar on throat

I think this accident has crossed through the mind of anyone who has ever lifted weights. This guy was benching 275 lbs when he dropped it.

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LOS ANGELES -- Southern California tailback Stafon Johnson is unlikely to play again this season after a falling weight bar crushed his neck and larynx.

The senior who scored the No. 7 Trojans' go-ahead touchdown against Ohio State two weeks ago was bench-pressing when the bar slipped from his right hand and fell onto his throat.

Johnson was in critical but stable condition late Monday night after more than seven hours of surgery, said Katreena Salgado, a spokeswoman for California Hospital Medical Center.

He was treated for crushing injuries to his neck as well as severe injuries to his larynx, said the hospital's trauma medical director, Dr. Gudata Hinika.

It's unlikely Johnson will be able to play again this season, but his prognosis is good and doctors expect him to make a full recovery, Hinika said in a statement released by the hospital.

"It hit him with a lot of force, and it hurt him," coach Pete Carroll said after the Trojans' brief practice Monday night but before the surgery was finished. "No broken bones as far as I understand, but he's got some damage in there somewhere, and they're working it out, trying to figure out what it is. ... It is serious. He did get hurt, so we don't know exactly what it is, and they're not going to know until they go through the surgery."

Immediately after the accident, Johnson was coughing up blood, a source close to the USC football program told ESPN's Shelley Smith.

Carroll said Johnson "was OK," but couldn't speak, when he left the weight room for California Hospital Medical Center. Johnson's family and friends gathered at the hospital on Monday to await word on his surgery.

Carroll tweeted his concern later Monday evening. "Please keep Stafon Johnson in your thoughts and prayers ... still in throat surgery after weights accident this AM," it read.

Earlier, Carroll said that weight room incidents are not entirely uncommon.

"That happens sometimes when you're doing bench presses, but this one just hit him wrong," Carroll said. "You can miss the rack or something. This was right at the end of his set, and he wasn't putting the bar down on the rack yet."

An assistant strength and conditioning coach was standing over Johnson at the time of the accident.

"I've seen players have the bar slip and fall onto their chest, but never in my 25 years of coaching have I heard of someone dropping a bar on their throat," said head strength and conditioning coach Chris Carlisle, who was standing 10 feet away at the time of the accident. "We're fortunate he was being spotted."

Johnson, a 5-foot-11, 210-pound senior from Compton, Calif., is the Trojans' second-leading rusher and goal-line specialist. He's rushed 32 times for 157 yards this year and leads the team with five touchdowns. He entered the season with 1,395 rushing yards and 14 touchdowns.

Johnson's absence likely means more carries for 235-pound junior Allen Bradford or perhaps 225-pound sophomore Marc Tyler when USC plays California on Saturday.
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I saw that on ESPN this morning.

How the hell do you you drop 275 on yourself while benching? I mean getting in on/off the rack maybe, but not while doing reps. If you let the bar go while using a thumbless grip while benching it's gonna hit you in the chest or lower, not in the neck.

The only time I almost hit my neck with a bar was when I was doing 225 reverse grip and the idiot I asked to spot tried to pull the bar out of my hands to rack it.
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I saw that on ESPN this morning.

How the hell do you you drop 275 on yourself while benching? I mean getting in on/off the rack maybe, but not while doing reps. If you let the bar go while using a thumbless grip while benching it's gonna hit you in the chest or lower, not in the neck.

The only time I almost hit my neck with a bar was when I was doing 225 reverse grip and the idiot I asked to spot tried to pull the bar out of my hands to rack it.
Everybody in highschool always looked at me funny for holding the bar like that.

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I've only dropped it once and it was 185 lbs. from the top of my range of motion, hit me right in the chest. My ribcage hurt for at least three months after. It is great incentive not to drop that shit!
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I've had my wrists buckle, but have never dropped the barbell. I've seen video clips of power lifters dropping big ass shit on themselves. Amazing they survive that shit. Scary as hell too.
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I bet he uses a false grip and the spotter wasn't paying attention

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What's the benefit of using an open grip?

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Seems like a bad idea from the start to me.

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Seems like a bad idea from the start to me.
None... Don't do it... Period

Edit: the benefit would be the good pain killers after having your throat smashed

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yup, which is exactly why i despise the thumbless grip. scares the crap outta me
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I guess the question is where was his spotter? Don't they have trainers for that? It wasn't a lot of weight really, but I would hope they take safety precautions. But, if it slipped it probably wouldn't have mattered.
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As usual, DFWstangs knows exactly what happened before any information is released! How do you guys do it?

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I guess the question is where was his spotter? Don't they have trainers for that? It wasn't a lot of weight really, but I would hope they take safety precautions. But, if it slipped it probably wouldn't have mattered.
... Since when is that not a lot of weight?

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I don't know of anyone that has ever dropped the weight using proper technique... Often times people bench without using their thumbs. Not correct and can lead to this.. Just assuming, Never said I knew.

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... Since when is that not a lot of weight?



I don't know of anyone that has ever dropped the weight using proper technique... Often times people bench without using their thumbs. Not correct and can lead to this.. Just assuming, Never said I knew.
I would presume a college football player should not have any problem with 275lbs.

edit: didn't read his size.
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One of the vids I saw of a powerlifter dropping the barbell was using normal grip. Once his wrists buckled, his thumbs did nothing to support the weight. The barbell just folded them back like limp noodles. It happened so fast, even the spotters couldn't do anything. I'll try and find the vid when I get home.
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One of the vids I saw of a powerlifter dropping the barbell was using normal grip. Once his wrists buckled, his thumbs did nothing to support the weight. The barbell just folded them back like limp noodles. It happened so fast, even the spotters couldn't do anything. I'll try and find the vid when I get home.
I'm sure it was well over 275.

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One of the vids I saw of a powerlifter dropping the barbell was using normal grip. Once his wrists buckled, his thumbs did nothing to support the weight. The barbell just folded them back like limp noodles. It happened so fast, even the spotters couldn't do anything. I'll try and find the vid when I get home.
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Notice the thumbs. Had this guy been another 3" down the bench he'd be spending some time in the hospital

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As usual, DFWstangs knows exactly what happened before any information is released! How do you guys do it?
Statistical probability?
Educated guess?
He's black so a dfwstanger sabotaged the bar?

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Notice the thumbs. Had this guy been another 3" down the bench he'd be spending some time in the hospital
That kid doesn't know WTF he's doing.
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He's black so a dfwstanger sabotaged the bar?
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Neither do those who don't use their thumbs

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Fuck that looked painful!

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We had a patient with the same injury when I was in Florida. He died before getting to the hospital. Bar smashed his larynx and his airway was occluded by the swelling. EMS tried to intubate him but could not pass the tube due to the swelling. They tried but were unsuccessful with the cricothyroidotomy. He was 19yrs old.
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... Since when is that not a lot of weight?
275lbs is warm up weight.
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That kid doesn't know WTF he's doing.
It is funny how you can tell that someone is going to get crushed before they even move the bar.
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275lbs is warm up weight.
Is that what you let your throat warm up to?

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Is that what you let your throat warm up to?
Naaaa, I'm not a gym retard.
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Naaaa, I'm not a gym retard.
I can vouch that he spends time in a gym.
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the guy was 210 lbs and dropped 275... what does he have to do besides gym practice games and party???

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275lbs is warm up weight.
Before you get to cocky, 275 is nothing to sneeze at.

What do you work out with?
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Before you get to cocky, 275 is nothing to sneeze at.

What do you work out with?
*** agggh chewww ***


I'm far from cocky bro.
I'm willing to bet I can throw up the 140-150lb dumb bells on INCLINE for sets of 8-10(flat is much easier).
We only have 120's at my gym and I do them for sets of 15, supersetted with 75lb flies on incline, back to back.
Followed by 110lb flat one armed dumb bells, then 120lb decline dumb bells.
Let's just call me dedicated is all.

Chest isn't my bread and butter though.
Back is.

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I'm far from cocky bro.
I'm willing to bet I can throw up the 140-150lb dumb bells on INCLINE for sets of 8-10(flat is much easier).
We only have 120's at my gym and I do them for sets of 15, supersetted with 75lb flies on incline, back to back.
Followed by 110lb flat one armed dumb bells, then 120lb decline dumb bells.
Let's just call me dedicated is all.

Chest isn't my bread and butter though.
Back is.
Oh yeah...I can scratch my own back.

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I'm far from cocky bro.
I'm willing to bet I can throw up the 140-150lb dumb bells on INCLINE for sets of 8-10(flat is much easier).
We only have 120's at my gym and I do them for sets of 15, supersetted with 75lb flies on incline, back to back.
Followed by 110lb flat one armed dumb bells, then 120lb decline dumb bells.
Let's just call me dedicated is all.

Chest isn't my bread and butter though.
Back is.
I was going to bring you back to reality by inferring that if you can bench 400+, then if 275 "isn't shit", then throw 275 on top of your 400 and get with it.

While 275 may not be that difficult for one rep, it's still a hell of a lot more weight than the average person can do. Just sayin'

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That was fucking great!
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I laughed out loud at this...


I only use dumbbells and I max our weights at 120 which is the most our gym has. at 275 that's 129% of my body weight.

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The simple fact of the matter is that his little bitch throat can't benchpress 275. He tried, ya know, give him credit for being creative and a forward thinker. I'd say his neck probably only maxxes out at 225, tops.

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The simple fact of the matter is that his little bitch throat can't benchpress 275. He tried, ya know, give him credit for being creative and a forward thinker. I'd say his neck probably only maxxes out at 225, tops.
Can you bench 275 with your chest?

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i use the thumbless grip. when i first started lifting i didn't, but then a guy that i started working out with that had a lot of experience in the gym told me it was better so i have used it ever since.

i bet that spotter feels like a dumb ass. how could you let your player drop that shit on his neck if you were paying attertion? idiot.

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i use the thumbless grip. when i first started lifting i didn't, but then a guy that i started working out with that had a lot of experience in the gym told me it was better so i have used it ever since.

i bet that spotter feels like a dumb ass. how could you let your player drop that shit on his neck if you were paying attertion? idiot.
Not using your thumbs isn't common sense. If his hand/hands went out from under the bar, you think even a big tuff guy is going to keep that from hitting you. Do the math, He's off balance, and by time it leaves his hand he's got a half sec to react....you think 275 may be easy to bench, try catching it. I'd say the trainer should feel like shit for going ahead and letting him go without his thumbs.

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I saw that on ESPN this morning.

How the hell do you you drop 275 on yourself while benching? I mean getting in on/off the rack maybe, but not while doing reps. If you let the bar go while using a thumbless grip while benching it's gonna hit you in the chest or lower, not in the neck.

The only time I almost hit my neck with a bar was when I was doing 225 reverse grip and the idiot I asked to spot tried to pull the bar out of my hands to rack it.
and he had a spotter!

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Not using your thumbs isn't common sense. If his hand/hands went out from under the bar, you think even a big tuff guy is going to keep that from hitting you. Do the math, He's off balance, and by time it leaves his hand he's got a half sec to react....you think 275 may be easy to bench, try catching it. I'd say the trainer should feel like shit for going ahead and letting him go without his thumbs.
well whenever i am lifting heavy i tell my spotter to keep is hands under/ on the bar just in case something like that does happen. just makes more sense.

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well whenever i am lifting heavy i tell my spotter to keep is hands under/ on the bar just in case something like that does happen. just makes more sense.
If I drop 275lbs into your hands, while you're slightly off balance, you going to stop it?

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