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Laugh at me in 222 days.

Last time I tried to get back into running I wasn't in the best shape (endurance wise) I didn't really have a good cardio base, so I got frustrated very quickly and quit. Right about that time I also had my knee surgery


This time I think I've got it


Thanks to the cycling I have a decent cardio base to build on now. I got in 115 miles pedaling last week (45 mile long ride)

I got news this morning that our company will be sponsoring part of the Houston Marathon in January and will pay any employee's associated fees... and every now and then (ie. today) I cave in to peer pressure.

I'm going to sign up for the half.


To help ease my knee back into it I am starting from scratch on the running with the basic "couch to 5k" plan, and I have basically planned all 32 weeks from now until the run January 17, 2010. Building base miles for most of the rest of the year then toward the end of the year stretch it out into a typical half-mary training plan.


So anyway, like I was saying, in 222 days you guys can feel free to come back in here and laugh at me for failing




The first run (1 of 125, lol) tonight was cake.


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good to set a goal...Im just starting to run. Started today with a 1 mile run and I felt like I was going to die...
I have some other goals, but I'm not ready to post those yet. Maybe after I hit them


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man i havent ran in over a year and the other day i was trying to ease myself back into it and i ran 1.5 miles like it was nothing. i think its because i was stationed in new mexico when i used to run a lot and since the elevation is higher it makes it harder to run there and way easier here. at least thats one good thing i took away from that shithole town/ base that i was stationed at.

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I hate running, but am forcing myself to do it. I think I'd do better if I wasn't on a tread mill.

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Are you making progress on the couch-to-5k plan? I've been looking for some sort of cardio to ease into because my dad has smoked around me my entire life. I can't breathe for shit and nearly pass out just running a mile. That plan looks just about perfect.

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Are you making progress on the couch-to-5k plan? I've been looking for some sort of cardio to ease into because my dad has smoked around me my entire life. I can't breathe for shit and nearly pass out just running a mile. That plan looks just about perfect.
Nothin' to it.


It seems everytime I go out it sucks at first, but I have finally learned to find "the zone" while running like I do on the bike. I finish each workout wanting to do a bit more than planned, but I'm making myself follow the whole 32 week plan exactly to avoid re-injuring my knee.


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The half and full usually fill up in 5-6 weeks.

This year the half filled up in 24 hours and the full was, well, full... in 2.5 days.



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Good luck man, just take it slow and build the miles slowly. I had a hell of a time building up to a half when I did, I defiantly rushed it, but you have tons of time to get it done.

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Massive achillies tightness.

Other that stretching the shit out of it, anyone have some advice?


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Other that stretching the shit out of it, anyone have some advice?
Roll your feet over a tennis ball, slowly adding more pressure. Loosening up your feet should help relieve some of the tension.
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LOL. I told you it would be funny.

Got off to a great start. Then after a while anything over 4 miles or so started to make it hard to walk for a day or two after. (runner's knee?) I started to get paranoid b/c it was the same knee I had surgery on last fall.

The last straw was this:
"If you would have come in here when it happened I'd have you in an air cast to immobilize it (ankle, same side as the bad knee)... but you waited 10 days to see me, sooooooooo... just ride it out. No running, no twisting, no blah blah blah."


Blah. I'm certainly not done running (for some reason I feel like I need to do it), but the past few months have not been kind to me at all.


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LOL. I told you it would be funny.

Got off to a great start. Then after a while anything over 4 miles or so started to make it hard to walk for a day or two after. (runner's knee?) I started to get paranoid b/c it was the same knee I had surgery on last fall.

The last straw was this:
"If you would have come in here when it happened I'd have you in an air cast to immobilize it (ankle, same side as the bad knee)... but you waited 10 days to see me, sooooooooo... just ride it out. No running, no twisting, no blah blah blah."


Blah. I'm certainly not done running (for some reason I feel like I need to do it), but the past few months have not been kind to me at all.
I'm in the same spot right now. I've been running 4-7 times a week for about 20 months now and then about two months ago I got in from a 3.5 mile run and my knee was absolutely killing me. Woke up the next morning and it was the size of a softball. Iced it down and stayed off it for a day and then went back running on it again. It hurt but I kind of ignored it until it swelled back up once more.

It doesn't swell up now, but I've got a consistent twinge in my knee most of the time these days. I should probably go get it checked it out, but what's the fun in not being reckless while young?

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I'm in the same spot right now. I've been running 4-7 times a week for about 20 months now and then about two months ago I got in from a 3.5 mile run and my knee was absolutely killing me. Woke up the next morning and it was the size of a softball. Iced it down and stayed off it for a day and then went back running on it again. It hurt but I kind of ignored it until it swelled back up once more.

It doesn't swell up now, but I've got a consistent twinge in my knee most of the time these days. I should probably go get it checked it out, but what's the fun in not being reckless while young?
been there, done that. Go see the doc

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I gave up on my knee cooperating with me... (all on my left knee) I have had it scoped twice, had ACL/MCL/PCL/MCM/PCM surgery, and put a hole through via dirt bike that required 40+ sutures. So, yeah, I hear ya on some knee pain.

I'm up to about 40 miles/week right now and for about the first 30-40 minutes of every run, I want to quit & my knee hurts pretty bad, but then I either forget about it or I start feeling better.

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I'm in the same spot right now. I've been running 4-7 times a week for about 20 months now and then about two months ago I got in from a 3.5 mile run and my knee was absolutely killing me. Woke up the next morning and it was the size of a softball. Iced it down and stayed off it for a day and then went back running on it again. It hurt but I kind of ignored it until it swelled back up once more.

It doesn't swell up now, but I've got a consistent twinge in my knee most of the time these days. I should probably go get it checked it out, but what's the fun in not being reckless while young?
Have you been fitted for running shoes? If not, try that. Your shoes may be wrong. Also, what is your pace? Are you going too fast? That's another thing you can try... slow your pace down to see if that helps take some of the stress off of your knees.

And good luck on your half marathon. I ran the White Rock Half this morning.
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Have you been fitted for running shoes? If not, try that. Your shoes may be wrong. Also, what is your pace? Are you going too fast? That's another thing you can try... slow your pace down to see if that helps take some of the stress off of your knees.

And good luck on your half marathon. I ran the White Rock Half this morning.
Word on that...you should hit up the ft worth running company when ur back in town slowhand. They'll analyze your step so you can get a specific shoe for the way you run.
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Instead of spending more money on more expensive shoes that can cause even more problems, why don't you make sure you run properly, first. Google POSE running, for a start.
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Instead of spending more money on more expensive shoes that can cause even more problems, why don't you make sure you run properly, first. Google POSE running, for a start.
Just my $.02, but I would suggest you go have a gait analysis done, and stand on a foot sensitivity pad so you can see where the weight is while you're standing still. A real running technician should be able to tell you more about your needs based on running history, flexibility, stature, gait, etc . This way you know how you're running and what's going on with your feet before you try fixing anything.

Also, the POSE stuff is not free... they are in business to make money and sell you their products.

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It is.

You are just missing my point, and I'm not sure you put a lot of thought into your post. I don't think you think someone can re-learn how to run by watching some youtube clip, but that's what are sorta suggesting.

My point is... Going to RunOn, Luke's, or somesuch to seek advice and analysis will provide much more positive results than watching some youtube clips. Surely you can agree with that.

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I'm confident that I've put more thought into this topic than anyone else in this thread has. I think anyone can relearn how to do anything, if they actually put in the effort. I also don't agree with going to a retailer for advice or analysis. The thought process is simple, running in heavily cushioned shoes and landing on your heels causes pain throughout your body, so stop doing it.
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Pain is back, scheduled an appointment today for when I'm back up in the Dallas area. I'd rather deal with this now than deal with it in 10 years.

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I'll give that a shot. I run enough these days that it'd probably be worth the expense.

Are there any half marathons run in the DFW area in the spring? I googled around for a bit but didn't find anything for 2010, just one or two from 2009.

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I'm confident that I've put more thought into this topic than anyone else in this thread has. I think anyone can relearn how to do anything, if they actually put in the effort. I also don't agree with going to a retailer for advice or analysis. The thought process is simple, running in heavily cushioned shoes and landing on your heels causes pain throughout your body, so stop doing it.
let me get this straight... you think someone can get better advice on running from watching a few youtube clips, than they can from going to a professional and seeking advice based on analysis.

IMO you are wrong. I experinced some of the same issues. I went to physical therapy - no changes after 4 months. I went to a running professional (in store) in Florida, and he put me in the "right" show after a few days of running with me.... no problems since. I don't claim to be an expert, but I am offering personal experience. AND I'm not saying learning that method can't work, given time, but I'm saying you need to find out what's going on first - get an analysis done, go to PT, go see a Dr., etc.... not watch some youtube clips.

By your suggestion/comparison, I can watch some UFC clips and be in the ring next month.

Please tell me your running background. We don't have to agree on this subject, but I am curious about why you seem so adamant on this process over anything else. Are you in anyway associated with POSE?




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let me get this straight... you think someone can get better advice on running from watching a few youtube clips, than they can from going to a professional and seeking advice based on analysis.

IMO you are wrong. I experinced some of the same issues. I went to physical therapy - no changes after 4 months. I went to a running professional (in store) in Florida, and he put me in the "right" show after a few days of running with me.... no problems since. I don't claim to be an expert, but I am offering personal experience. AND I'm not saying learning that method can't work, given time, but I'm saying you need to find out what's going on first - get an analysis done, go to PT, go see a Dr., etc.... not watch some youtube clips.

By your suggestion/comparison, I can watch some UFC clips and be in the ring next month.

Please tell me your running background. We don't have to agree on this subject, but I am curious about why you seem so adamant on this process over anything else. Are you in anyway associated with POSE?
Where did I say not to go to a doctor? I said retailer, a person who is attempting to make a sale. I average 20-30 miles a week, and am training for a long-term goal of running an ultra.

You should go back and read my first post, where I said reading up on some alternative techniques is a START, but you decided that I'm condemning you and everyone else in this thread.

And please, comparing running, which every human on earth has done, for the past 10,000 years, to getting in the octagon with the elite fighters on the planet?

Every activity has myths and general misconceptions that are easier for new joiners to learn. The myths about weight lifting making women bulky, protein as an instant muscle growth wonder serum, the need for more expensive equipment to compete in racquet sports. Running is no different, the easy way out is to go buy more expensive shoes, or have an ortho fit you with high dollar equipment. The truth is, the fastest, most injury free runners on earth all ran barefoot until they were mid-teens, and they all run with the same stride style.

When I started back to running many years ago, I couldn't go more than a couple miles before my knees and lower back hurt. I got fitted for shoes, got worse, I got more expensive shoes, got worse... I did a little research into running efficiently, found tips and drills to fix my stride, and now can rip off a 15 miler with no pain, in cheap old beat up Frees with no support.
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