I see juice as "cheating". If you can't get that way naturally, then it ain't natural. I've had friends that have done it, and watched them balloon like crazy. I've also bean jealous, but I'm just not willing to take the risk. Is the juice you get clean? Is the cycle you're taking right for you?
I've known quite a few people that have gone overboard after seeing results, they want more and more. I've seen a 25 year old go into liver failure. I've seen a enlisted Navy man go to the brig for them.
I've been clean my whole life. As an adult male I should weigh about 175, but after more than 20 years in the gym, I'm at a good 220. I've also hit my plateau and have been here for years. I'd love to get bigger and leaner, but its just not in my genes. I'm sure I could take some juice and give all the credit to my genes, but we all know what is really going on.