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So growing up playing sports I never really had a need for much upper body strength and to this day I still don't have much. Well I've seen the commercial for the perfect pull up and finally decided to do some research on it. I started with youtube to see what videos people had up and their thoughts on it, so far everyone seems to love it. So I ordered one and it arrived today. I'll get some pics of that it comes with and the installation of it. I'm planning on using this alot during the rest of my transformation.

For those that haven't seen the commercial here it is. Pics of installation will be up soon.


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That's fine for beginner's, but if you ever want to put any size on your lats, you'll need to step up to weighted pulldowns.

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That's fine for beginner's, but if you ever want to put any size on your lats, you'll need to step up to weighted pulldowns.
Luckily I do have a lat pulldown machine at my office gym.

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That's fine for beginner's, but if you ever want to put any size on your lats, you'll need to step up to weighted pulldowns.
Or, better yet, weighted pull ups
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. So I ordered one and it arrived today. >
should have bought it at wal-mart. if you didnt like it then you could have taken it back and got a refund.
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should have bought it at wal-mart. if you didnt like it then you could have taken it back and got a refund.
Ehh I'm not real worried about it. Pulls are something I've never been able to do and are an excercise I've been meaning to add to my workouts for quite some time. It was $60 shipped so I'm not worried, I know I'll get some use out of it.

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That's fine for beginner's, but if you ever want to put any size on your lats, you'll need to step up to weighted pulldowns.
And heavy, heavy ass db rows. If it ain't 3 digits, you ain't workin it.

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I'm still trying to figure out how you can get your chest pumped from rows???
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so how many perfect pullups can you do?

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so how many perfect pullups can you do?
full pull ups right now? big fat 0... here in 8 weeks, shooting for 10-15.

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full pull ups right now? big fat 0... here in 8 weeks, shooting for 10-15.
Good luck with that! That's setting the bar a little high.

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I have been using it since the first of Feb. Started out with a max of 6 folowed the chart set my max again last Wed at 11. And I love the Ab straps
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That's fine for beginner's, but if you ever want to put any size on your lats, you'll need to step up to weighted pulldowns.
what about weighted pull ups?
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what about weighted pull ups?
See post #4.

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And heavy, heavy ass db rows. If it ain't 3 digits, you ain't workin it.
100lbs ain't shit.
120's for sets of 25 is where it's at.
I still prefer 6-7plated T-bar rows over any other exercise.

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100lbs ain't shit.
120's for sets of 25 is where it's at.
I still prefer 6-7plated T-bar rows over any other exercise.

I KILL mofo's at back!!!
And guess what Grayhorse...I don't do ANY deadlifts!
Well if only we could all be Mini-Brock-Lesnars then we'd all be set now wouldn't we?

And what, if anything do you do for low back if you don't do deadlifts for strength and size?
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100lbs ain't shit.
120's for sets of 25 is where it's at.
I still prefer 6-7plated T-bar rows over any other exercise.

I KILL mofo's at back!!!
And guess what Grayhorse...I don't do ANY deadlifts!
Your 120's are weak. 180's for 30 reps will get the blood going.

The gym has a straight bar that ends in a u-joint that is bolted to the floor. You can load that up with 10 plates and go to failure.
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Well if only we could all be Mini-Brock-Lesnars then we'd all be set now wouldn't we?

And what, if anything do you do for low back if you don't do deadlifts for strength and size?
Naaa, because then you would just be ugly, like me.


Get real bro...I do plenty for my lower back.
Our lower back machine is a joke.
But, I love doing back extensions with 2 45lb plates for the end of my back workout.
It has really helped with my deep squats and lunges as well and you definately feel it for the next few days.
I got lunges today with 80lbs in each arm(which is a personal best for me).
I am far from perfect though, hence why I am always in the gym, trying to improve those flaws.

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Your 120's are weak. 180's for 30 reps will get the blood going.

The gym has a straight bar that ends in a u-joint that is bolted to the floor. You can load that up with 10 plates and go to failure.
120lb dumbbells is all we got.
I used to use the 150's for bent over rows when I was at Strouds.
They got 200's there, but I only used them for shrugs.

If I am understanding what you are saying...
That is called a T-bar row and neither you or me can do 10 plates correctly.

I just take a straight bar, grab a close grip rowing handle, find a corner, throw a 35lb plate on the end(so one end don't come up and hit you in the balls...don't ask me how I know, lol), and go to town.
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i've got the iron gym pull up bar. it was only $30 and i like it.
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Naaa, because then you would just be ugly, like me.


Get real bro...I do plenty for my lower back.
Our lower back machine is a joke.
But, I love doing back extensions with 2 45lb plates for the end of my back workout.
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Back extensions with 90lbs but no Deadlifts, the king of all lifts.

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Back extensions with 90lbs but no Deadlifts, the king of all lifts.
haha, just poking at you a little.
The only form of a deadlift that I get is whenever I am doing shrugs.
I do a squat rack pull from the lowest level to lift and lower the weight for start and finish.
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That's fine for beginner's, but if you ever want to put any size on your lats, you'll need to step up to weighted pulldowns.
I can relate to this a little as my "V" shape really started to blow up when i started doing more and more lat pull-downs as opposed to my body weight.

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........ if you ever want to put any size on your lats, you'll need to step up to weighted pulldowns.


Not exactly...

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120lb dumbbells is all we got.
I used to use the 150's for bent over rows when I was at Strouds.
They got 200's there, but I only used them for shrugs.

If I am understanding what you are saying...
That is called a T-bar row and neither you or me can do 10 plates correctly.

I just take a straight bar, grab a close grip rowing handle, find a corner, throw a 35lb plate on the end(so one end don't come up and hit you in the balls...don't ask me how I know, lol), and go to town.

Honestly, I'm just screwing with you.

I get tired of people coming on here and saying they have progress, and someone just has to come in and crush them by saying "oh yea, well, that ain't shit. I can do (insert whatever here).

Why can't people just say "good job, keep it up" or something else encouraging?
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So growing up playing sports I never really had a need for much upper body strength and to this day I still don't have much.

I'm just curious, what sports don't require much upper body strength? Soccer, road racing (bicycling), bowling, chess?????
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I'm just curious, what sports don't require much upper body strength? Soccer, road racing (bicycling), bowling, chess?????
Although bowling doesn't necessarily require upper body strength it sure does help to have some. You don't tire near as quickly and can be more consistent.

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120lb dumbbells is all we got.
I used to use the 150's for bent over rows when I was at Strouds.
They got 200's there, but I only used them for shrugs.
These 65 kg's (143lbs) look like they work pretty good for this guy, LOL.


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I'm just curious, what sports don't require much upper body strength? Soccer, road racing (bicycling), bowling, chess?????
I played soccer for 16 years, lacrosse for 6 years, ran track for 7 years, cycled for 3 years, and baseball for 5 years. None which required much upper body strength, just mainly endurance.

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These 65 kg's (143lbs) look like they work pretty good for this guy, LOL.

Yea, he's 100% natural alright, just check the hair, lol.
I just simply was stating that 120's aren't that heavy for bent over rows.
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Yea, he's 100% natural alright, just check the hair, lol.
I just simply was stating that 120's aren't that heavy for bent over rows.
They work for me. Come on man, Ronnie Coleman is all natural. It's all those BSN supplements he takes. I just rented his Relentless video. That fucker has 250 lb db's made for him. The company is about to make him a set of 300's. He makes shakes with 7 scoops of Syntha-6.

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I played soccer for 16 years, lacrosse for 6 years, ran track for 7 years, cycled for 3 years, and baseball for 5 years. None which required much upper body strength, just mainly endurance.

Soccer and long distance cycling are nuts. Those guys are basically a set of huge lungs on a pair of legs. I could never to that.. Props to them..
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They work for me. Come on man, Ronnie Coleman is all natural. It's all those BSN supplements he takes. I just rented his Relentless video. That fucker has 250 lb db's made for him. The company is about to make him a set of 300's. He makes shakes with 7 scoops of Syntha-6.
I make them work for me as well.

I couldn't imagen.
My biggest complaint about the 200's is they are sooooo damn long!
I couldn't imagine 300's!!!

So you want to look like him?
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They work for me. Come on man, Ronnie Coleman is all natural. It's all those BSN supplements he takes. I just rented his Relentless video. That fucker has 250 lb db's made for him. The company is about to make him a set of 300's. He makes shakes with 7 scoops of Syntha-6.
Yea, but who wipes his ass?


I used to think that shit was cool. Now that I'm older, I have absolutely no use for all this steriod craze. Look where it got Lyle Alzado. I've known people under 30 that have almost died due to adverse side affects.

I'm topped out at 220 at 6' tall. I've been tempted to try the stuff over the years, but it's just not worth it.
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I used to think that shit was cool. Now that I'm older, I have absolutely no use for all this steriod craze. Look where it got Lyle Alzado. I've known people under 30 that have almost died due to adverse side affects.

I'm topped out at 220 at 6' tall. I've been tempted to try the stuff over the years, but it's just not worth it.
Wow...I finally agree with a COP!!!
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Awww man, why you gotta dis me like that???
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I make them work for me as well.

I couldn't imagen.
My biggest complaint about the 200's is they are sooooo damn long!
I couldn't imagine 300's!!!

So you want to look like him?
Hell no, but damn, you have to admit, as a bodybuilder, you see him and realize that he was the pinnacle. At least until the new gene therapies they are working on create a 400 lb monster.

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Awww man, why you gotta dis me like that???
I'm not dissing you cuzzzz!

Just stating a fact.
I just usually see things differently than cops.
I somewhat understand the law, I just live by my own code/morals/law is all.

Is cop a bad word or something?
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Hell no, but damn, you have to admit, as a bodybuilder, you see him and realize that he was the pinnacle. At least until the new gene therapies they are working on create a 400 lb monster.
I agree completely.
When I was at Strouds, I used to think Johnnie Jackson was the biggest creature I ever saw/met.
Well he was, until I saw Ronnie up in there.
The man is a freak of nature for sure!
He TOWERED over Johnnie.
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I agree completely.
When I was at Strouds, I used to think Johnnie Jackson was the biggest creature I ever saw/met.
Well he was, until I saw Ronnie up in there.
The man is a freak of nature for sure!
He TOWERED over Johnnie.
I understand completely. I met him at The Parks mall in Arlington a few years back, he was cool as hell. I was a good 5-6 inches taller, but I felt like a midget. It's truly impossible to describe how big he is until you see it in person. I couldn't imagine seeing him in a gym setting.

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I'm not dissing you cuzzzz!

Just stating a fact.
I just usually see things differently than cops.
I somewhat understand the law, I just live by my own code/morals/law is all.

Is cop a bad word or something?
Not at all. I'm not upset or anything, just messin' around.
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I understand completely. I met him at The Parks mall in Arlington a few years back, he was cool as hell. I was a good 5-6 inches taller, but I felt like a midget. It's truly impossible to describe how big he is until you see it in person. I couldn't imagine seeing him in a gym setting.
The biggest dude I've seen in person (besides Ronnie Coleman) is some light skinned black guy that was an extra in a John Travolta movie. He worked out at the Golds in Arlington that I go to. His arms are as big as my head.
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I used to think that shit was cool. Now that I'm older, I have absolutely no use for all this steriod craze. Look where it got Lyle Alzado. I've known people under 30 that have almost died due to adverse side affects.

I'm topped out at 220 at 6' tall. I've been tempted to try the stuff over the years, but it's just not worth it.

Steriods gave him a brain tumor? haha Lets be real, at least know what you're talking about.

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Steriods gave him a brain tumor? haha Lets be real, at least know what you're talking about.
Who knows if he would have gotten the tumor with or without the stuff? We don't know everything yet.

Hell, I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. With my luck, I'll probably get lung cancer....
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Who knows if he would have gotten the tumor with or without the stuff? We don't know everything yet.

Hell, I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. With my luck, I'll probably get lung cancer....
AAS target muscle tissue, not nervous.
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AAS target muscle tissue, not nervous.

Anything is possible. Was there an absolute connection to another indicator other than his drug usage?
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Anything is possible. Was there an absolute connection to another indicator other than his drug usage?
There wasn't one to the steroid usage. By that logic, the pain meds he was hooked on, or the alcohol could have caused it. So no beer and no ibuprophen, it'll give you a tumor. LOL. It's good you never tried an AAS cycle, you are far too uneducated about them, and that's a mistake you don't want to make.

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Anything is possible. Was there an absolute connection to another indicator other than his drug usage?
You're stretching like a gymnast and you know it.

But no, not anything is possible. We can track fairly specifically how AAS are received in the body. And they promote muscle tissue growth, not nervous tissue...two very different tissues.
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Good luck with that! That's setting the bar a little high.
Not really. I don't know about the "perfect pull-up"...given I'm in no shape to talk shit right now, starting at December of '07 to March of 08', I went from being able to do 2-3 pullups to doing 20...and maybe a few more if I had maxed out, but I need to be able to do 2 more sets. These were wide grip pull-ups which were in my opinion, the hardest.
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