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Salt/soduim and dieting.

Ok guys, forgive me for the basic newbie questions about dieting. Clearly by looking at me you can tell I have alot to learn.

I've started dieting and getting more activity in. I was reading that other thread about abs and getting leaner and it kinda confused me a little bit.

I'm completely cutting sugar and caffiene from my diet, but what effect does salt and sodium have on fat loss? Is salt something that needs to be completely cut off as well? I've always been under the assumption that salt/sodium makes someone retain water and difficult to lose weight. Any truth to this? What do you suggest as far as intake goes?


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Normal diet is 2g/day...so stay under that. Where salt goes, water will always follow in the body. The more you intake, the more water you will retain. Your kidneys will excrete excess sodium though.

Losing fat and losing weight are two different things. If you want to see better numbers, cut the sodium and sit in a sauna and sweat out the water. If you want to lose fat, cut your carbs and exercise.

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Ok guys, forgive me for the basic newbie questions about dieting. Clearly by looking at me you can tell I have alot to learn.

I've started dieting and getting more activity in. I was reading that other thread about abs and getting leaner and it kinda confused me a little bit.

I'm completely cutting sugar and caffiene from my diet, but what effect does salt and sodium have on fat loss? Is salt something that needs to be completely cut off as well? I've always been under the assumption that salt/sodium makes someone retain water and difficult to lose weight. Any truth to this? What do you suggest as far as intake goes?


Thanks guys.


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Can you explain exactly what you mean when you say that you're cutting sugar from your diet?
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Can you explain exactly what you mean when you say that you're cutting sugar from your diet?
I have quite the sweet tooth between chocolate and sodas. Also carb addiction, pasta mainly, which i understand is sugar in the system, messing with insulin levels.

Back to the point, I've cut all sodas and sweets out, trying to eat fresh veggies instead of canned stuff since they have sugar in them, no pasta, bread, milk . I'm not sure on fruit yet, there seems to be quite the debate on fruit between people.

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I have quite the sweet tooth between chocolate and sodas. Also carb addiction, pasta mainly, which i understand is sugar in the system, messing with insulin levels.

Back to the point, I've cut all sodas and sweets out, trying to eat fresh veggies instead of canned stuff since they have sugar in them, no pasta, bread, milk . I'm not sure on fruit yet, there seems to be quite the debate on fruit between people.
You dont have to quit all pasta just the bad pasta.
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You dont have to quit all pasta just the bad pasta.
So whole wheat pasta is ok? (in moderation of course)

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So whole wheat pasta is ok? (in moderation of course)
Whole wheat pasta sparingly, yes. Stay away from artificial sweeteners as they spike your insulin the exact same way normal sugars do. A little bit of raw sugar is better than those sweeteners, imo.

Also, maybe you are doing it for personal reasons, but there are many studies out there showing caffeine to be good for your body (in moderation of course) so you don't have to cut it out. Black coffee or tea is the shit.
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Whole wheat pasta sparingly, yes. Stay away from artificial sweeteners as they spike your insulin the exact same way normal sugars do. A little bit of raw sugar is better than those sweeteners, imo.

Also, maybe you are doing it for personal reasons, but there are many studies out there showing caffeine to be good for your body (in moderation of course) so you don't have to cut it out. Black coffee or tea is the shit.
So no Splenda?

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I have quite the sweet tooth between chocolate and sodas. Also carb addiction, pasta mainly, which i understand is sugar in the system, messing with insulin levels.

Back to the point, I've cut all sodas and sweets out, trying to eat fresh veggies instead of canned stuff since they have sugar in them, no pasta, bread, milk . I'm not sure on fruit yet, there seems to be quite the debate on fruit between people.
We're a lot alike in that regard, I love candy and chocolate and bread and pasta. Our goals are likely different, which is why I eat all the carbs I can get my hands on. In fact, I should probably be eating right now...
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So whole wheat pasta is ok? (in moderation of course)
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10313074
Nice and cheap at walmart, you dont have to go crazy and spend big $$ at whole foods.

And like Exlude says, tea(green) is very good for you. Oh and drink more water.
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So no Splenda?
Good coffee doesn't need anything added.

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http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...ct_id=10313074
Nice and cheap at walmart, you dont have to go crazy and spend big $$ at whole foods.

And like Exlude says, tea(green) is very good for you. Oh and drink more water.
Hmmm, cool. Thanks for that info!

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We're a lot alike in that regard, I love candy and chocolate and bread and pasta. Our goals are likely different, which is why I eat all the carbs I can get my hands on. In fact, I should probably be eating right now...
My goal is to lose 70lbs and get into a size 34 waist.

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best idea is to go straight MSG instead.
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best idea is to go straight MSG instead.
MSG = also tasty
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I personally have never had a problem with salt when dieting, and alot of the fat-free stuff that I eat is pretty high in content. As has been said, salt will make you retian water, but not severly if you're drinking enough. Most "normal" people wouldn't even notice a difference in the mirror, it'll show up on the scale, and be a problem if you are competing where vascularity is an issue.

If you're trying to reach a weight goal Steve, cut salt a week or two prior to weigh in, if fat loss is your only concern, then don't worry too much about it other than super high amounts is bad for the heart.

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I personally have never had a problem with salt when dieting, and alot of the fat-free stuff that I eat is pretty high in content. As has been said, salt will make you retian water, but not severly if you're drinking enough. Most "normal" people wouldn't even notice a difference in the mirror, it'll show up on the scale, and be a problem if you are competing where vascularity is an issue.

If you're trying to reach a weight goal Steve, cut salt a week or two prior to weigh in, if fat loss is your only concern, then don't worry too much about it other than super high amounts is bad for the heart.
Thanks Aaron. I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't interrupt my weight loss at all. I'll keep it in low moderation of course, but now I won't obsess over it. This is kind of addicting watching what is in food and what I am eating.

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Thanks Aaron. I just wanted to make sure it wouldn't interrupt my weight loss at all. I'll keep it in low moderation of course, but now I won't obsess over it. This is kind of addicting watching what is in food and what I am eating.
It becomes second nature after a while. I read every food label from everything I eat/drink. Not cause I'm paranoid or addicted to it, but because I think it's interesting. For example, a lot of 100% whole wheat bread contains tons of high fructose corn syrup. Or finding out that your favorite protein bar or powder has tons of fat or sugars in it.
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It becomes second nature after a while. I read every food label from everything I eat/drink. Not cause I'm paranoid or addicted to it, but because I think it's interesting. For example, a lot of 100% whole wheat bread contains tons of high fructose corn syrup. Or finding out that your favorite protein bar or powder has tons of fat or sugars in it.
Yeah, this is all new to me. It amazing how some food companies completely mislead the public into thinking some of their stuff is healthier then normal stuff. I was reading bread content in the store yesterday checking on different wheat breads. I was shocked to find out that many wheat breads are just as bad if not worse then some white breads! I ended up buying a loaf of 7 multi-grain bread instead. I'll only eat one piece at a time with turkey on it.

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Yeah, this is all new to me. It amazing how some food companies completely mislead the public into thinking some of their stuff is healthier then normal stuff. I was reading bread content in the store yesterday checking on different wheat breads. I was shocked to find out that many wheat breads are just as bad if not worse then some white breads! I ended up buying a loaf of 7 multi-grain bread instead. I'll only eat one piece at a time with turkey on it.
I have learned just to stay away from bread entirely. Don't get me wrong, I love bread. But all the good bread is god awful for you (highly processed, high on the glycemic index) and the only stuff that is decent tastes like hay.
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I personally have never had a problem with salt when dieting, and alot of the fat-free stuff that I eat is pretty high in content. As has been said, salt will make you retian water, but not severly if you're drinking enough. Most "normal" people wouldn't even notice a difference in the mirror, it'll show up on the scale, and be a problem if you are competing where vascularity is an issue.

If you're trying to reach a weight goal Steve, cut salt a week or two prior to weigh in, if fat loss is your only concern, then don't worry too much about it other than super high amounts is bad for the heart.
Finally, some freaken first hand intelligence!

Don't worry to much about your salt intake(as it's more of a long term thing).
I put salt on almost everything(I know, I will probably die from it too, lol).
I drink nothing but water(as in... a few gallons daily) and I don't notice any real water bloating of any sort.
Like was said...if you have a contest coming up, then worry.
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