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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-26-2008, 08:52 PM Thread Starter
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Will I break 2hours in the 13.1?

My first 1/2 marathon is on Dec 7th, and my goal is to break 2 hours which is right at 9min/mile pace. I used to run when I was younger, but 10 years later, 3 surgeries on the same knee, lots of alcohol, and some severe weight gain have not helped. I was 270lb Jan 2007 and I'm 225lb now.

My best 5k is 25:55 (10-25-08) and my long run is 8 miles now (run it the past 4 Sundays) right at 9min/mile pace. I plan on upping it to 10 miles the next 2 Sundays, then 12, and the last one at 14. I usually run Tue, Wed, Thu evening and Sat, Sun mornings.


Anyone else trying a 1/2 or full marathon (besides you 01WC...)? What are your goals?

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This is going to sound really dumb.. How many miles is a half marathon ? ?

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13.1 miles

I'd say stick to training at 10 miles, if you can keep your pace at 10 miles, you'll be fine for 13.1... Typical training for running races like this are to train up to 10 miles.

One of my friends and my ex are runners, and this is how they would train.

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at a 9 minute mile. u are on pace for 2 hours. so u will be cutting it close. just keep an even pace up hills and speed up on the down hills and you should be able to do it. good luck.

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Based on your recent 5K time you should be right under 2 hours in the 1/2.

As far as your longest distance run, for a 1/2 marathon, you are fine with a 10 mile long run.

Once a week do a tempo run where you run a one mile warm up 3 miles at 8:30/mi pace or better, and a one mile warm down.

A 1/2 in 2 hours is just over 9 minutes a mile. Try to run even paced miles right at 9 minutes a mile and you'll be fine.

If you feel the need to do a 13/14 mile run do it at least 2 weeks prior to the event although, like I said, you really don't ever have to get over 10 miles.

Personally, I think if you do the once a week tempo run, you might be able to get 8:50/pace miles out of it which would be you at a 1:55 finish time and enough cushion for the goal.

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Oh, BTW, I can run sub 1:20 if I train for it exclusively but that is at a bodyweight of 180. I doubt I'd be sub 2:00 with 45 extra pounds attached to me.

I'd think the average finishing time in a 1/2 is somewhere over 2 hours so if you get under 2 hours you are better than over 1/2 the field.

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I am doing 1/2 the whiterock this year and I will finishright at 2:10. I run 10 minute miles no matter what. I train with long, slow runs so therefore I am along slow runner

I did the full 26.2 miles in 2004 and finished in like 4:40.
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I will be running the half marathon in San Antonio next month. Since this will be my first half marathon i just wanna finish in under 3 hours and next time i will worry about time.

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at a 9 minute mile. u are on pace for 2 hours. so u will be cutting it close. just keep an even pace up hills and speed up on the down hills and you should be able to do it. good luck.
I actually like hills because I really focus and usually pass people going up hills.


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Based on your recent 5K time you should be right under 2 hours in the 1/2.

As far as your longest distance run, for a 1/2 marathon, you are fine with a 10 mile long run.

Once a week do a tempo run where you run a one mile warm up 3 miles at 8:30/mi pace or better, and a one mile warm down.

A 1/2 in 2 hours is just over 9 minutes a mile. Try to run even paced miles right at 9 minutes a mile and you'll be fine.

If you feel the need to do a 13/14 mile run do it at least 2 weeks prior to the event although, like I said, you really don't ever have to get over 10 miles.

Personally, I think if you do the once a week tempo run, you might be able to get 8:50/pace miles out of it which would be you at a 1:55 finish time and enough cushion for the goal.

I am doing the tempo runs, and currently they are 3-5 miles between 8:45-9:00. Last week I did 1/2 warmup, 5 @ 44:52, 1/2 warmdown. When I do a 3 mile tempo run, my best time is right at 8:40 pace. Based on your info, I'm looking preety good for now... My dad was a big runner before several surgeries on his foot - he ran Whiterock in 2:28 one year (1987 maybe). His info and your info are pretty similar to Jeff Galloway's info and he seems to be the best in the business when it comes to training programs.

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Oh, BTW, I can run sub 1:20 if I train for it exclusively but that is at a bodyweight of 180. I doubt I'd be sub 2:00 with 45 extra pounds attached to me.

I'd think the average finishing time in a 1/2 is somewhere over 2 hours so if you get under 2 hours you are better than over 1/2 the field.
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I am doing 1/2 the whiterock this year and I will finishright at 2:10. I run 10 minute miles no matter what. I train with long, slow runs so therefore I am along slow runner

I did the full 26.2 miles in 2004 and finished in like 4:40.
Finish a marathon is no small accomplishment. Good job!


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I will be running the half marathon in San Antonio next month. Since this will be my first half marathon i just wanna finish in under 3 hours and next time i will worry about time.
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Good luck! My wife did a 13.1 last year and was really shooting for 2 hrs. I think she finished in 2:03. She said she'd never do it again, but she's now training for another one. Again, best of luck!
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Well... I just did my 12-miler today (longest training run I'm going to do). Ran the first 10 right at 9min pace, but the last 2 were a struggle - 9:30 pace. 1:49:07 for 12 miles, which would put me under 2hr if I had gone 13.1. The half is 12/7 so we shall see.

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3.) If I can do it, then so can you. I've had 4 knee surgeries on my left knee. I weighed 270 when I started jogging and was only doing 2 miles 3 times a week. I work a lot - primary job where I put in 50hrs/week, I own 1 business that doesn't take much time but I still have to put in 5hrs/week, and I just started another business that takes another 6-10hrs on the weekend. Oh yeah, my wife just gave birth to our 1st baby 8 weeks ago... so... yeah, quit making excuses and go for a jog.

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3.) If I can do it, then so can you. I've had 4 knee surgeries on my left knee. I weighed 270 when I started jogging and was only doing 2 miles 3 times a week. I work a lot - primary job where I put in 50hrs/week, I own 1 business that doesn't take much time but I still have to put in 5hrs/week, and I just started another business that takes another 6-10hrs on the weekend. Oh yeah, my wife just gave birth to our 1st baby 8 weeks ago... so... yeah, quit making excuses and go for a jog.
Like I said... at your weight a goal of under 2 hours is bad ass. Combine that with 4 knee surgeries and your goal is... super bad ass.

If you break sub 2:00 @ 225 after 4 knee surgeries... it is much more bad ass. There is no way I would break sub 2:00 @ 225. With the right training you can accomplish what this dude has:

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Like I said... at your weight a goal of under 2 hours is bad ass. Combine that with 4 knee surgeries and your goal is... super bad ass.

If you break sub 2:00 @ 225 after 4 knee surgeries... it is much more bad ass. There is no way I would break sub 2:00 @ 225. With the right training you can accomplish what this dude has:

http://the100mileman.com/davidgoggins/

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1:53:49 (8:42 pace). I surprised myself a little because I thought I could finish and I had a chance to break 2 hours, but it was windy and my first mile was way too fast (7:36). I only stopped for 10 seconds to say hi to the wife & daughter (11 weeks old)... man that was a big mental boost to see them.

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1:53:49 (8:42 pace). I surprised myself a little because I thought I could finish and I had a chance to break 2 hours, but it was windy and my first mile was way too fast (7:36). I only stopped for 10 seconds to say hi to the wife & daughter (11 weeks old)... man that was a big mental boost to see them.

Awsome job! My wife is running a full marathon next weekend. She ran 20 miles today on her last long run in 3 hrs 31mins. She's pretty sore right now. haha

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1:53:49 (8:42 pace). I surprised myself a little because I thought I could finish and I had a chance to break 2 hours, but it was windy and my first mile was way too fast (7:36). I only stopped for 10 seconds to say hi to the wife & daughter (11 weeks old)... man that was a big mental boost to see them.
Man, that is flat amazing. Congratulations on busting your ass and getting something to show for it.
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That's sick to hear a guy say he ran 30 miles just to GET to the boston marathon that he's gonna run...how's that for perspective?!

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1:53:49 (8:42 pace). I surprised myself a little because I thought I could finish and I had a chance to break 2 hours, but it was windy and my first mile was way too fast (7:36). I only stopped for 10 seconds to say hi to the wife & daughter (11 weeks old)... man that was a big mental boost to see them.
I also ran a half marathon but it took me 209 which i didnt think was too bad considering im 230lbs and it was my first half. I did have to stop at the restroom and the line was killer long but i really had to go so maybe i could have been in the 2:20s . But congrats on your run thats really good!

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Wow I think the furthest I've ran was like 3 miles and that was back in HS granted I was a lineman.

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Man, that is flat amazing. Congratulations on busting your ass and getting something to show for it.
Thank you.


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I also ran a half marathon but it took me 209 which i didnt think was too bad considering im 230lbs and it was my first half. I did have to stop at the restroom and the line was killer long but i really had to go so maybe i could have been in the 2:20s . But congrats on your run thats really good!
Congrats. You completed one, and most people can't say that.

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