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Ok. Now im confused.

I stumbled across this on youtube. Id like to see some opinions from some of you guys.

Just to make this clear, i am NOT thinking about going this route in the gym. Im just confused because i thought they were dangerous. This clip is basically saying theyre not?

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post #2 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-11-2008, 07:19 PM
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Steroids are not dangerous....
misuse of steroids is dangerous....
lack of PCT is dangerous....
abuse of steroids is dangerous....

It's a lot like "Guns don't kill people, people kill people", same can be said for Steroids.

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<-----Just got off last cycle and am very happy. Cant wait till my next cycle.
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Some steroids are inherently dangerous. Others are not, and ALL of them can cause problems if/when used improperly or in excess.

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Steroids are not dangerous....
misuse of steroids is dangerous....
lack of PCT is dangerous....
abuse of steroids is dangerous....

It's a lot like "Guns don't kill people, people kill people", same can be said for Steroids.
x2....well said

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Rhabdomyolysis anyone?
 
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x2....well said

x3....

If you are watching everything else (liver, lipid profiles, estrog. lvls, etc, etc) then there is actually study that you can be healthier doing it once a year. The few spoil it for the rest though. You know, the crowd that says, "At least I'll die BIG!"

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Fuckin drug addicts...
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post #8 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-13-2008, 12:41 PM
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<-----Just got off last cycle and am very happy. Cant wait till my next cycle.
Why did you delete that other thread where you were talking about how "natural" you are?
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Fuckin drug addicts...
LMAO...hypocrite!
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post #10 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-14-2008, 08:44 AM
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LMAO...hypocrite!
Far from it Dave.
I might have wondered about it...like everyone else does.
But then I looked at the sides...mainly the addictions caused from the drugs.
I KNOW I will be in the gym throughout my entire life cycle,
but I have seen firsthand what this does for ego's
(especially when others are off-cycles) and it's just not for me.
I can and have already got big and can stay big without the use of any sort of drugs.
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post #11 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-14-2008, 10:54 AM
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You cannot judge them based on observation of people that have no idea what they are doing. But I understand where you are coming from. I do not do cycles either, but I am on testosterone replacement and have never felt better. But I am able to check labs and titrate as needed...others just shove needles in their asses and have no idea what they are doing. Used correctly, these meds can improve your quality of life...used inappropriately, they can hurt you.
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Cruz,
If you would get rid of your fat ass and smart mouth you would get more pussy.
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You cannot judge them based on observation of people that have no idea what they are doing. But I understand where you are coming from. I do not do cycles either, but I am on testosterone replacement and have never felt better. But I am able to check labs and titrate as needed...others just shove needles in their asses and have no idea what they are doing. Used correctly, these meds can improve your quality of life...used inappropriately, they can hurt you.
Any chance a broken tib/fib could have a negative effect on natural test production? I'm gonna be laid up 8 weeks or more, and I have forced myself not to consider the atrophy aspects. Could something like hgh help heal quicker/better?

In a matter of minutes my entire lifting career shifted from "big & strong) to "healthy & having 100% use of my right leg again."

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If you would get rid of your fat ass and smart mouth you would get more pussy.
fat as in fat, or fat as in phat?
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Any chance a broken tib/fib could have a negative effect on natural test production? I'm gonna be laid up 8 weeks or more, and I have forced myself not to consider the atrophy aspects. Could something like hgh help heal quicker/better?

In a matter of minutes my entire lifting career shifted from "big & strong) to "healthy & having 100% use of my right leg again."
I heard broccoli produces natural test...
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post #17 of 27 (permalink) Old 09-17-2008, 11:06 AM
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I heard broccoli produces natural test...
So does jackin off!
Looks like Raven's got some work to do!
haha

Sorry about hearing about your leg.
You seem like you are always hurting yourself!
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I know people that have been on for years(well over a decade), and are smart about it, and are fine..
I also know people whose exact words were "Cycle? What the fuck is a cycle?" They are now fucked....
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Any chance a broken tib/fib could have a negative effect on natural test production? I'm gonna be laid up 8 weeks or more, and I have forced myself not to consider the atrophy aspects. Could something like hgh help heal quicker/better?

In a matter of minutes my entire lifting career shifted from "big & strong) to "healthy & having 100% use of my right leg again."

It won't effect your natural production..you will still be the same... but I would MAKE SURE you are getting lots of protein for as much of a muscle sparing effect as possible. Just try to keep your diet in order..keeping your saturated fat intake down will help to keep estrogen levels from getting higher. Real HGH would help you heal faster, but it is expensive and dangerous..

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Real HGH would help you heal faster, but it is expensive and dangerous..
The guys I was talking about are on real HGH, and have been. I dont want to act like I know what I am talking about, so how is it dangerous? Is it if abused? If used period?
One of my childhood friends has been on HGH for about 9 years, cycling off and on. I dont keep up with his cycle, but know he has been on atleast that long...
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What's so dangerous about HGH? You mean over use or were you thinking about IGF?

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Misuse of steroids is bad!!!


But he did get his own special on TLC, "the man whose arms exploded" - True Story.
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Misuse of steroids is bad!!!


But he did get his own special on TLC, "the man whose arms exploded" - True Story.

Oil injection did that not the steriods. Sad thing is he was a good bodybuilder before he started that shit.

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Misuse of steroids is bad!!!


But he did get his own special on TLC, "the man whose arms exploded" - True Story.
I am pretty sure his problem was not roids, but injecting some shit. Silcone, or synthol or some shit...
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I am pretty sure his problem was not roids, but injecting some shit. Silcone, or synthol or some shit...
I am pretty sure his problem was he was a fucken drug addict.
Down with dope, up with hope!
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