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Gots me a new Rage X.

Just pushed 475lbs off a 2 board.
I must say im a little brused up. haha

Training is going well, 4 weeks out from the next meet.....

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Nicely Done bro....what the difference between your Raw and shirted bench?
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Nicely Done bro....what the difference between your Raw and shirted bench?
70lbs at the moment. I just use a 1 ply shirt.

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thats a lotta freakin weight bro! Thats awesome
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not bad greg.. what is your best Raw right now? I havent really been pushying myself for a while ( still recouping the shoulder) but i was able to push up 505 for a few a month or so back on a heavy day..
( that was in a Mickey mouse shirt btw )

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not bad greg.. what is your best Raw right now? I havent really been pushying myself for a while ( still recouping the shoulder) but i was able to push up 505 for a few a month or so back on a heavy day..
Really i never max raw but yesterday i did 405 of the 2 board raw before i put 455 on for the first shirt press. I'll go down to 1 board next week, then pause off the chest the next, then take the last week off.

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What makes those sirts so much of an aid?
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What makes those sirts so much of an aid?

Basically they are maid on NON Stretch material and the shoulder seems (chest plate) are only a few inches apart so when you have 400lbs+ coming down something has to give. Usually your skin is pinched and arms and chest is crushed. You have to pull down with the 400lbs to even get it to touch your chest and it hurts like hell. So, as you push up the lift is assisted for the first few inches.

So you ask, why use one then? They were original designed to help keep from injury when lifting heavy weight on bench. The shirt keeps everything tight and inline. When people found that it added to their bench the materials keep getting stronger and stronger and now it's got out of hand. Some Feds in powerlifting allow 3 plys of material! Imagine it taking 400lbs to get 1 ply to touch the chest while pulling down on it. Then 3 plys! It takes 700 plus. You have to be able to lock the weight out though. Obviously you cant just put one on and add 100lbs to your bench. That's why you see powerlifters working off boards, and benching off the floor to practice the top part of the bench and doing heavy tricep work to help with "Lockouts"
Really it’s a skill that takes practice to master. Some people cant get use to the “groove” of the shirt and cant lift with it period.

So then you ask, why do feds allow them if they give false weight to lifts?
One reason is that people like to see BIG numbers. The record is approaching 1100lbs with a shirt now. Another reason is that it does still prevent injury.
The most important reason gear is allowed is because it brings $money$ to a hurting sport. The gear makers (Inzer,APT,Titan, and others) sponsor and pay for all the events around the world.

Do i like using gear? NO, however the fed i lift in and the fed that does the Firefighter/Police Olympics is APF and they allow Gear so i have to use it to be competitive.

That's the basic overview, i hope that helps understand gear.

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Right on. I think I've got it, thanks.
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Sweet, congrats bro. I for the first time in my life put up 315 2 times with a spotter on the second.. Thats all natural with no supplements at this time..

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Really i never max raw but yesterday i did 405 of the 2 board raw before i put 455 on for the first shirt press. I'll go down to 1 board next week, then pause off the chest the next, then take the last week off.
mine was in one of these shirts


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I guess I've become extremely jaded from lifting with WL, when 475 doesn't sound all that heavy raw, much less shirted. It sucks too, because my 405 for 2 raw is warm up weight.

Props on the progress though Greg, the whole point of the sport is to get stronger, which you most definitely are.


That said, the only time I'm gonna intentionally endure bruising and pinched skin will involve a prime specemin of the female gender.

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2 weeks out.

Just hit 475 of 1 board tonight. I'll be trying to get this damn shirt to touch in a few days.

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I need someone in this area to show me the ropes on this 1 board and boards this...

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I need someone in this area to show me the ropes on this 1 board and boards this...

When benching stop a couple inches above your chest instead of going the full range of motion.

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I'm pretty sure it's only beneficial to shirted powerlifters, but I have never done them (even when i powerlifted). However GRAYHORSE will have much more info on the subject.
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I need someone in this area to show me the ropes on this 1 board and boards this...
1" = 1 board
2" = 2 boards

1. When you do a max bench press you're going to get stuck 2-4 inches off your chest. You build up the boards to your sticking point to work on that area.

2. You dont want to stretch out a new bench shirt so you start with 3 or so boards and slowly work down to 1 or non right before compitition. This way you get the most out of your shirt, with it not being stretched out.

3. Boards help work on the "Lockout" part of your bench. (Tri's) The most important part when using a shirt.

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Soo stoping early will make you stronger and help from getting stuck, instead of going all the way down and pushing threw a sticking point??

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Soo stoping early will make you stronger and help from getting stuck, instead of going all the way down and pushing threw a sticking point??
You do push through, you drop an inch below if thats what you're using the boards for.
No need doing board presses unless you're going to be lifting with a shirt. No need to lift with a shirt unless you're going to be doing powerlifting meets.

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You do push through, you drop an inch below if thats what you're using the boards for.
No need doing board presses unless you're going to be lifting with a shirt. No need to lift with a shirt unless you're going to be doing powerlifting meets.

ok, so I don't need to worry about any of this lol... atleast not anytime in the near future.

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I don't miss getting in and out of those. They get a bit closterphobic


Definitely helps prevent injury and in the meet there may be up to a 3 second pause at the bottom of your bench. You need every edge you can get when you have 450 sittin on your chest.

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I don't miss getting in and out of those. They get a bit closterphobic


Definitely helps prevent injury and in the meet there may be up to a 3 second pause at the bottom of your bench. You need every edge you can get when you have 450 sittin on your chest.
I fucking hate the pause...And when I lifted we weren't allowed to wear the straped back shirts, so I would keep my shirt on until final lift often times. That brings up another bitch of a problem becuase you sure as hell can't put your arms down at that point...haha. Zombie walking FTW!
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Zombie Arms has made me laugh several times since yesterday.


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I can't believe I used to lift weight like that! My powerlifting coach was pretty much like a father to me. I really liked it because it was a non team sport. I always knew who to blame whether I won or lost. People who have never competition lifted don't understand the mental side of competing in a powerlifting meet. The mental discipline and focus gained through those experiences are amazing.

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