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Starting Tri-Lean today

I just started Tri-Lean today, and will be posting my training logs over at http://www.lockoutforums.com

So far, half way through my first day, and I can already feel a difference in energy and awareness. I'm a pretty lazy guy when it comes to my time at work, and I also know that I suffer from Adult ADD. Today I've been very awake, and working like a madman.

No jitters, no body temp issues, nothing, just a nice mild stimulant.

Started today at 294, I'll keep ya up to date on everything.

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Hmm...interesting.. Cant wait to hear/see results
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It didn't do shit for me. I started it a month ago and I haven't dropped weight any faster than I was before I started it (~2 lbs/week), so I'm pretty much done with it.


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It's a 4 pill system which includes the following:

Venom Hyperdrive: (Taken 1-2 a day for 90 days)
Increases stamina and energy, Suppress appetite, Increase calorie expenditure, Improve long term performance, Improve mental focus

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Venom Lean Dreams is uniquely designed to help us relax and sleep better while fueling the pathways that result in prioritized fat burning and lean tissue sparing recovery.

Zero-Stim(formerly Special Tactics): (Taken 2 with breakfast and lunch, for the 1st 30 days)
Fat burning due to more mitochondria to do so and fat oxidation via our good friend PPAR-alpha. Fat storage control. Better insulin activity control so calories are stored as lean tissue instead of waist wrap for winter. Anti-oxidant qualities to protect cells form the damage normally done by calorie restricted diets and training. A cool hatred for cells that are not supposed to be mass produced. Improved lipid metabolization.

T-X: (Taken 3 a day for the 2nd 30 days)
Increased protein synthesis rate. Increased rate of fat oxidation. Increased receptor activity for androgens, Insulin, GH, IGF-1, PGE-1, PGF-2, creatine, (and other performance lean mass goodies your body makes). Increased metabolization of proteins, carbohydrates, fats and micronutrients. Increased metabolic rate and calories expenditure. Enhanced oxygen consumption by most body tissues, Improved recovery time. Stimulation of HPTA*

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It didn't do shit for me. I started it a month ago and I haven't dropped weight any faster than I was before I started it (~2 lbs/week), so I'm pretty much done with it.
I think you're the only person so far that I've heard from who didn't see great results.

Did you feel any different at all? I can actually tell I'm more awake and alert.

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I think you're the only person so far that I've heard from who didn't see great results.

Did you feel any different at all? I can actually tell I'm more awake and alert.

Definitely. It's obviously a stimulant, no doubt about that. I would compare it to a couple shots of espresso, but without the zombie feeling. Combine that with the
"special tactics" and my appetite was in the dumps. Especially at the beginning, I had to force myself to eat enough every day. I was maintaining a 1700-2000 cal/day diet with a 60/20/20 split... and I maintained my 2-2.5 lb/week losses just like I was doing in the weeks before I started it.

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This was the first time I'd taken any sort of supplements other than protein and vitamins and it certainly didn't turn me on to them... so I'm going back to what was working for me.



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I've been on it for 3 weeks now. I need more time to assess it, though. I was sick with a sinus infection the second week, so that kind of threw a wrench in the deal. I didn't go to the gym, I didn't eat well, I missed doses, etc. My weight fluctuates a lot, too. I started it at 178 and I'm at 174 now, but the Saturday after I was sick, I was at 168.

It's also not going to be very fair for me to gauge it solely on my weight. I only had about 7-8 lbs. of fat to lose and I'm gaining muscle, so the scale isn't really going to reflect my results well. My before and after pics will show the real results.

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Yeah, so far Strychnine is the only person i've had not like it and i've sold a hundred or so. That's just a crazy percent for the supplement industry. I have tons of repeat customers on this product also. The hyperdrive is the number 1 seller of weight loss pills in the area. They are ALWAYS on backorder. Same with the kits.

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Hope it works out for you, Matt. Stay at it and results will come.

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Yeah, so far Strychnine is the only person i've had not like it and i've sold a hundred or so.
I wouldn't say I totally don't like it... I'm just really confused by it

I just can't grasp how some people can lose 6+ lbs/week while doing their normal shit and I only lose ~2/wk with a strict diet and cardio/lifting.


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No offense…but do you plan on stopping the drinking as well?
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I wouldn't say I totally don't like it... I'm just really confused by it

I just can't grasp how some people can lose 6+ lbs/week while doing their normal shit and I only lose ~2/wk with a strict diet and cardio/lifting.


Maybe I should look into meth

I guess cause you were already eating only 1700cals a day which is just crazy.
I eat that in one sitting for sure. Usually people bust past their sticking point on the tri-lean though.
I did take a Venom Hyperdrive today because im at a busy station today at work. I just love the they this shit makes me feel.

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I guess cause you were already eating only 1700cals a day which is just crazy.
I eat that in one sitting for sure. Usually people bust past their sticking point on the tri-lean though.
I did take a Venom Hyperdrive today because im at a busy station today at work. I just love the they this shit makes me feel.
What the hell do you eat that consists of 1700 calories at one sitting? And how many meals a day do you eat?

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What the hell do you eat that consists of 1700 calories at one sitting? And how many meals a day do you eat?

Shit i could take that out with a couple cheese burgers, fries and a coke. My ice cream protein shakes have over 1000 alone. I've been bulking to 210lbs training for my next powerlifting meet on July 21st. I'll be training at 210 for the 198lb class.
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I've decided to cut down to 2 days a week for drinking from my usual 5-7

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LOL at everyone thinking/looking for the easy way out!!!
*coughs* I admit, I used to do it as well. *coughs*
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I've decided to cut down to 2 days a week for drinking from my usual 5-7
I guess that's a good beginning from a halfasser's point-of-view.
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Yeah, I mean, teeth are soooo overrated anyways.

Fuck, 9 of 'em are fake anyway. I'm good to go!



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Shit i could take that out with a couple cheese burgers, fries and a coke. My ice cream protein shakes have over 1000 alone. I've been bulking to 210lbs training for my next powerlifting meet on July 21st. I'll be training at 210 for the 198lb class.
I just eat 3 large meals with shakes and snacks throughout the day.
Well shit, i can do that. I thought all you guys eat "clean" food. Eating 4 double cheese burgers at 400 calories a pop isnt that hard.

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I don't want to quit drinking, I want to manage my lifestyle to a way that I'm confortable, and enjoy.

Stopping drinking altogether is and never will be something I want to do. I enjoy having cocktails with friends, frequenting bars, etc. It's as much of my life as working.

I don't want to change my life, I want to get in better shape and regulate my life. I plan to lift 3 days a week, and cardio 3 days a week while using the tri-lean.

My overall goal is probably 240 by end of the year, then i'll bulk up to 260, and one last cut back to 240. At 6'4 I'd be happy to walk around 240, and live a flexable lifestyle.

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Shit i could take that out with a couple cheese burgers, fries and a coke. My ice cream protein shakes have over 1000 alone. I've been bulking to 210lbs training for my next powerlifting meet on July 21st. I'll be training at 210 for the 198lb class.
I just eat 3 large meals with shakes and snacks throughout the day.
Just out of curosity Greg...how long do you expect to live with eating PURE SHIT like that?
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Just out of curosity Greg...how long do you expect to live with eating PURE SHIT like that?
My great grandfather made it to 93, smoking a pack of Reds a day, eating chicken fried steak, bacon, biscuits and gravy, etc... his entire life.

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My great grandfather made it to 93, smoking a pack of Reds a day, eating chicken fried steak, bacon, biscuits and gravy, etc... his entire life.
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Well shit, i can do that. I thought all you guys eat "clean" food. Eating 4 double cheese burgers at 400 calories a pop isnt that hard.
Powerlifters and eating clean do not belong in the same sentence.
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Just out of curosity Greg...how long do you expect to live with eating PURE SHIT like that?

I dont know, but i'll enjoy it till i get there.
And hell, i'll look good doing it too!

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funny thing is my grandfather who ate very healthy, worked out regularly, died at 64

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My great grandfather made it to 93, smoking a pack of Reds a day, eating chicken fried steak, bacon, biscuits and gravy, etc... his entire life.
Maybe he could have made it to 93+ otherwise.
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Maybe he could have made it to 93+ otherwise.
Who would want to? He had already lost his hearing and sight, I think he was ready to go at that point

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Well shit, i can do that. I thought all you guys eat "clean" food. Eating 4 double cheese burgers at 400 calories a pop isnt that hard.

You may have me confused with the bodybuilding ferries around here.

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You might until you get older.
You ever seen any "ex-powerlifters"?
lol
Keep in mind...I trained at Strouds for 4 yrs of my life.
So I have been around quite a few in my day.
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Who would want to? He had already lost his hearing and sight, I think he was ready to go at that point

No shit, we'll die of some sort of cancer someday.
Hell, my chances are mult X4 in my perfession. haha

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You may have me confused with the bodybuilding ferries around here.
Im just confused. I thought when i posted up a while back what i was eating to gain weight such as fast food, etc.. everyone was against it.

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You ever seen any "ex-powerlifters"?
lol
Keep in mind...I trained at Strouds for 4 yrs of my life.
So I have been around quite a few in my day.

True, however i dont look like a powerlifter now either.
I look like a damn wanna-be bodybuilder. I have less than 12% BF at all times. Hell, i can post a pic right now and look better than 99% of the poeple in this bitch!

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True, however i dont look like a powerlifter now either.
I look like a damn wanna-be bodybuilder. I have less than 12% BF at all times. Hell, i can post a pic right now and look better than 99% of the poeple in this bitch!
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True, however i dont look like a powerlifter now either.
I look like a damn wanna-be bodybuilder. I have less than 12% BF at all times. Hell, i can post a pic right now and look better than 99% of the poeple in this bitch!
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lol, i'd LIKE to believe that nobody trains harder than me either though.

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True, however i dont look like a powerlifter now either.
I look like a damn wanna-be bodybuilder. I have less than 12% BF at all times. Hell, i can post a pic right now and look better than 99% of the poeple in this bitch!
Glad you remembered that select 1% haha

And not all powerlifters eat shitty guys. Just Greg cause he's got a crazy metabolism apparently. when I powerlifted it was the hardest diet I've ever been on.
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Most people aren't blessed with a hyper metabolism like you Greg. Trust me, I don't eat like a "ferrie" because I want to, nor do I recommend that anyone consider a double cheeseburger to be a good meal.

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Most people aren't blessed with a hyper metabolism like you Greg. Trust me, I don't eat like a "ferrie" because I want to, nor do I recommend that anyone consider a double cheeseburger to be a good meal.

Most people wont get off their lazy ass and spend 2 hours in the gym 5 days a week either.

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Glad you remembered that select 1% haha

And not all powerlifters eat shitty guys. Just Greg cause he's got a crazy metabolism apparently. when I powerlifted it was the hardest diet I've ever been on.
I was speaking in general.
You(or even Greg for that matter) are not what I would consider a true POWERLIFTER.
Sure he does it for fun, but it's not what his life centers around.
Otherwise, he would quit being a firefighter and would just shoot up(HGH, if one can afford it and like 99.9% of the true powerlifters do)
and throw up some serious weight #'s!!!
To me, the 2,500+ club is what defines a true competitive powerlifter.

Greg is playing the smart card and fooling with the legal crap because of his occupation.
Personally, I don't blame him one bit for doing it and hope he keeps progressing.
Me personally, I believe in hard work and a super clean diet.
He has come a long way since those chicken leg forearms he used to post up!
No offense bro!!!
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Most people wont get off their lazy ass and spend 2 hours in the gym 5 days a week either.
I'm in the gym 6 days a week, 2 hrs a day and I still don't eat like you.
I'm also a higher % bf than you as well.
Like has been mentioned before, wait till that metabolism falls.
You will see firsthand, just like everyone else does around the age of 30ish.
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You will see firsthand, just like everyone else does around the age of 30ish.
Yep, that's when my battle with the waistline began.

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Speaking of food, im absolutely livid right now. For 3 weeks straight ive had a good 5-6 meals a day, and im starving right now with only 2 1/2 meals in me. Man this sucks and im starving.

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I was speaking in general.
You(or even Greg for that matter) are not what I would consider a true POWERLIFTER.
Sure he does it for fun, but it's not what his life centers around.
Otherwise, he would quit being a firefighter and would just shoot up(HGH, if one can afford it and like 99.9% of the true powerlifters do)
and throw up some serious weight #'s!!!
To me, the 2,500+ club is what defines a true competitive powerlifter.

Greg is playing the smart card and fooling with the legal crap because of his occupation.
Personally, I don't blame him one bit for doing it and hope he keeps progressing.
Me personally, I believe in hard work and a super clean diet.
He has come a long way since those chicken leg forearms he used to post up!
No offense bro!!!
haha...fuck no im not a powerlifter. I just like to look good...

To me >12% is what defines someone as chubby

EDIT: Defines MALES as chubby.
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I assume this stuff would be ok for women, right?

Grayhorse, how much? And where are you located? Can you ship?

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