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heart rate during cardio

whats a good heart rate to stay around while doing cardio?

i've been getting pretty far over 200 and people are saying thats way too high.

are they wrong?

what does it matter?
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whats a good heart rate to stay around while doing cardio?

i've been getting pretty far over 200 and people are saying thats way too high.

are they wrong?

what does it matter?
What are you measuring your HR with? I doubt you are getting over 200 and staying their for any amount of time.

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Your max is genrally around 220 minus your age.


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What are you measuring your HR with? I doubt you are getting over 200 and staying their for any amount of time.

when i jog on the treadmill. i use the thing on the treadmill to measure it. i have changed machines and it is always real close to the same.
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Your max is genrally around 220 minus your age.


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so what your says is i should try to keep it around 190? i'm new to this shit. i lifted alot of free weights before i ot married and played basketball for cardio but going to the gym is foreign to me.
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so what your says is i should try to keep it around 190? i'm new to this shit. i lifted alot of free weights before i ot married and played basketball for cardio but going to the gym is foreign to me.
Well it all depends on what you are trying to do, if your trying to burn fat try to keep it at around 150-160 for a prolonged period of time. I run every night on a treadmill, i usally try for around 7.5-10mph for 30 mins, it keeps my heart rate at like 160, although i have had it up past 200 but that was doing sprints. How fast and how long are you running on the mill?
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oh also how old are you? and what type of shape are you in right now, how much do you weigh
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Well it all depends on what you are trying to do, if your trying to burn fat try to keep it at around 150-160 for a prolonged period of time. I run every night on a treadmill, i usally try for around 7.5-10mph for 30 mins, it keeps my heart rate at like 160, although i have had it up past 200 but that was doing sprints. How fast and how long are you running on the mill?

i jog for like 10-15 minutes. i really hate cardio but from what i've been told i need to do it.
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oh also how old are you? and what type of shape are you in right now, how much do you weigh

i'm 28, 6 ft. tall, 245 lbs. very active. drink alot of water and sweat alot. i play basketball and wakeboard, water ski. etc.

i know i sound like a tubby little fucker but i'm not too fat.

it almost seems like my weight is from muscle because i'm a pretty strong guy but i have a layer of fat on top of it so nothing is defined.
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also i work out atleast 5 times a week.


is cardio really that important?
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I really think it is, But i am a freak about it, i think i have a problem because if i miss a day i feel like shit LOL, Cardio is great!! and alot of people dont do it because they hate or think they will lose weight and muscle, but thats not always true, i myself dont go for the large crazy look i am more into the lean cut so do cardio along with my lifting helps me get that cut look. There are many different types of cardio though other than running, i personally just run, but my wife she switches it up with running,stair master, that eliptical machine, and things like that, i always feel better after a nice cardio workout. oh and im 23yr 72in and 175lbs.
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also i work out atleast 5 times a week.


is cardio really that important?
sure is...helps prevent all sorts of disease and helps prolong life.

Try measuring your heart rate by hand next time you are working out. It shouldnt be 200. Check your carotid pulse on your neck and count for 15 seconds then multiply by 4. I have found the machines to be off

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i was hoping you all would give me a good alternative to the cardio.

i guess they don't call it "working" out for nothing.

i need to call greyhorse and get setup with some supplements i guess. i already can tell i'm bulking up but i need to shape up some.
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I'm 32, 5'10", 170 lbs. My cardio goals are to keep between 170-175 for 45 minutes to an hour. I've recently cut back on the time to focus more on weights and building some mass, though.
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i was hoping you all would give me a good alternative to the cardio.

i guess they don't call it "working" out for nothing.

i need to call greyhorse and get setup with some supplements i guess. i already can tell i'm bulking up but i need to shape up some.
Just remember... cardio = life, weights = strength.
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i was hoping you all would give me a good alternative to the cardio.

i guess they don't call it "working" out for nothing.

i need to call greyhorse and get setup with some supplements i guess. i already can tell i'm bulking up but i need to shape up some.
Try HIIT training...20 min and you are done. It is supposed to equal a good 45min-1hr cardio session.

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MHR is genetically determined and a biomarker (everyone is different.)

I've been tested at over 200 BPM and my resting is in the upper 30s/low 40s. According to the standard formula my MHR should be 175.

MHR doesn't predict athletic performance and cannot be determined from some generic mathematical formula. For example, the basic "220 minus your age" is a joke since in trained people your MHR won't fall as you age.

Without spending around $500 to test your MHR in a clinic along with blood work and VO2Max testing... run in a 5K race with a good heart rate monitor. The last 1-2 minutes of the race sprint all out to the finish line. Record your heart rate and at 5 beats to it (because of fatigue you're not going to hit MHR, thus the +5)

You will also find that your MHR is different depending on the activity. For example for running my MHR is ~204. My MHR for cycling is ~195. My MHR for swimming is ~175.
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MHR is genetically determined and a biomarker (everyone is different.)

I've been tested at over 200 BPM and my resting is in the upper 30s/low 40s. According to the standard formula my MHR should be 175.

MHR doesn't predict athletic performance and cannot be determined from some generic mathematical formula. For example, the basic "220 minus your age" is a joke since in trained people your MHR won't fall as you age.

Without spending around $500 to test your MHR in a clinic along with blood work and VO2Max testing... run in a 5K race with a good heart rate monitor. The last 1-2 minutes of the race sprint all out to the finish line. Record your heart rate and at 5 beats to it (because of fatigue you're not going to hit MHR, thus the +5)

You will also find that your MHR is different depending on the activity. For example for running my MHR is ~204. My MHR for cycling is ~195. My MHR for swimming is ~175.
So... you can move oxygen through your body pretty well, huh?
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So... you can move oxygen through your body pretty well, huh?
That's what they tell me. Still hurts though. haha.

Someone was telling me the other day they don't run long distances because it hurts. That is why they could never do 10 miles (which was what started the conversation.)

If I do 10 miles or 18 miles running it hurts like hell. Just like everyone else. Running distance is just as much mental as it is physical. After awhile you realize the pain and tolerate it better but the last 10 miles I did hurt just as bad as the first 10 miles I did 20+ years ago. I just can tolerate it better.

Speaking of running, did you happen to see Tyson Gay's 100 meters final this weekend? 9.68 wind aided but damn he was flying.

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That's what they tell me. Still hurts though. haha.

Someone was telling me the other day they don't run long distances because it hurts. That is why they could never do 10 miles (which was what started the conversation.)

If I do 10 miles or 18 miles running it hurts like hell. Just like everyone else. Running distance is just as much mental as it is physical. After awhile you realize the pain and tolerate it better but the last 10 miles I did hurt just as bad as the first 10 miles I did 20+ years ago. I just can tolerate it better.

Speaking of running, did you happen to see Tyson Gay's 100 meters final this weekend? 9.68 wind aided but damn he was flying.

I saw that... fucking insane, wind or not.
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I spend about 12 minutes on the stationary after my workout. I try and keep the speed around 12 mph, then dead sprint the last minute to minute and a half. My heart rate stays between 120-140 the entire session. I'm 5'7-8" and 122 lbs

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I saw that... fucking insane, wind or not.
Averaged over 23 MPH overall and I bet he peaked well over 27 MPH.

Hell, 99.9% of the US population couldn't ride a bike that fast!
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Averaged over 23 MPH overall and I bet he peaked well over 27 MPH.

Hell, 99.9% of the US population couldn't ride a bike that fast!
He's a damned horse!
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"high intensity interval training"


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"high intensity interval training"

so how do you do that?
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Elliptical or stationary bike works for me more than cardio

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Averaged over 23 MPH overall and I bet he peaked well over 27 MPH.

Hell, 99.9% of the US population couldn't ride a bike that fast!

FUCK, that's moving. I didn't think it was possible to run that fast.

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FUCK, that's moving. I didn't think it was possible to run that fast.
I could be wrong but off the top of my head:

1 meter/second = 2.24 mile/hour (mph rounded)

He did 100 meters in 9.68 seconds...

100 / 9.68 * 2.24 = 23.14 MPH on average.

Figuring in, what, at least a 1/4 second to get out of the blocks, acceleration through 50 meters, he had to of topped out over 27 MPH.

I can't remember exactly how much acceleration there is in the 100 meters but I'm pretty sure they don't hit top speed until around 50 meters.
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