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I MADE IT! w00t

Well after my work out of Shoulders, Biceps and abs i weighed in. I wasnt expecting any different results because the last 3-4 weigh-ins i have weighed in around 148-149 never making it to 150. So to my surprise i jumped on the scale like i always do before i leave and i weighed in at 151.3.

I know im probably retaing water but i really dont care. The scale has never displayed 150+ with my ass on it, ever. So im pretty excited to finally know that 4 months ago i was 137 with jeans and shoes on and all this ass busting has paid off.

When i first started i could barely bench 135, 5 times. Now i can throw it up 12 times with a max of almost 200(didnt quite make it. i got it up but couldnt get my arms in the completely extended "lock position".) Ill get it next week though.

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Congrats Mike...I need to start lifting...
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Congrats Mike...I need to start lifting...
Not sure how far Euless is for you but Don and I(Matt and Jimmy as well but they havent been coming lately) have been working out at 24hour off of West Parkway. Youre more than welcome to join up if you like. I had to work out by myself today and not having a spot sucks. (I cant push myself as hard as i like) So the more people there the better.

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Not sure how far Euless is for you but Don and I(Matt and Jimmy as well but they havent been coming lately) have been working out at 24hour off of West Parkway. Youre more than welcome to join up if you like. I had to work out by myself today and not having a spot sucks. (I cant push myself as hard as i like) So the more people there the better.
Sorry, I've been in Houston. I'm back now, but taking the week off. I've been having some serious cramps/spasms in my upper back for a couple days (fucking hotel beds ). I'll def. be back Monday though.


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Sorry, I've been in Houston. I'm back now, but taking the week off. I've been having some serious cramps/spasms in my upper back for a couple days (fucking hotel beds ). I'll def. be back Monday though.
Yeah i know your back is fucking with you. Just giving you a hard time. You better get back in gear though cause with me almost benching 200 and 6 plate shrugs for 20, im gaining pretty quick on you and Don!

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Not sure how far Euless is for you but Don and I(Matt and Jimmy as well but they havent been coming lately) have been working out at 24hour off of West Parkway. Youre more than welcome to join up if you like. I had to work out by myself today and not having a spot sucks. (I cant push myself as hard as i like) So the more people there the better.
PM what days and times you do what...don't know if I can make it the days you guys lift.
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PM what days and times you do what...don't know if I can make it the days you guys lift.
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Not trying to hate, but...

6 plate shrugs(315lbs) x 20 at 150lbs weight?
I would LOVE to see those jerks....errrr, I mean "shrugs".


Congrats on the gains though!
Keep it up, just eat, eat, eat.

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Not trying to hate, but...

6 plate shrugs(315lbs) x 20 at 150lbs weight?
I would LOVE to see those jerks....errrr, I mean "shrugs".


Congrats on the gains though!
Keep it up, just eat, eat, eat.
I struggle with the last few but i get to about 15 before it gets sloppy. I normally dont do that much weight. I was able to do 4 plates for 20 with no problem, full shrug for all 20 and even 5 second pauses on the last 5 or so. So i figured what the hell tried +1 plate on each side and i surprised myself.

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Good job Mike. I know exactly how hard it can be to put on weight. I managed to put on 15lbs in 3 months while I was in Florida, but as soon as I got back home I quit going to the gym and it all went away.

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I struggle with the last few but i get to about 15 before it gets sloppy. I normally dont do that much weight. I was able to do 4 plates for 20 with no problem, full shrug for all 20 and even 5 second pauses on the last 5 or so. So i figured what the hell tried +1 plate on each side and i surprised myself.

Fuckin' hater...
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Are you using straps for those? If not that's even more impressive.

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I struggle with the last few but i get to about 15 before it gets sloppy. I normally dont do that much weight. I was able to do 4 plates for 20 with no problem, full shrug for all 20 and even 5 second pauses on the last 5 or so. So i figured what the hell tried +1 plate on each side and i surprised myself.

Fuckin' hater...
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Glad to see that you hit 150 Mike. That said, I too would like to see these 315lb barbell shrugs. Granted, it was after 4 sets of heavy dumbell shrugs, but the last time I did barbell shrugs with 315 I struggled to get 10. Did I mention that I outweigh you by 56lbs...

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Glad to see that you hit 150 Mike. That said, I too would like to see these 315lb barbell shrugs. Granted, it was after 4 sets of heavy dumbell shrugs, but the last time I did barbell shrugs with 315 I struggled to get 10. Did I mention that I outweigh you by 56lbs...
Maybe it was a miscalculation on my behalf. Ill have to check the next time i go to gym.
For shrugs i usually start with 1 plate on each side, do 20 with couple second pauses, work my way up to 2 plates and just finish my trap exercise with 2plates. This is the first time i attempted 3 plates.

Also, its not barbell nor the press bar, its the machine(not smith machine, dont know the name) but its still 3 plates on each side. I cant do olympic bar without straps so i had to resort to the "machine".

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Also, its not barbell nor the press bar, its the machine(not smith machine, dont know the name) but its still 3 plates on each side. I cant do olympic bar without straps so i had to resort to the "machine".
ah, the hammer machine. It's different but good job.

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ah, the hammer machine. It's different but good job.
Thats it. "Hammer Strength" i believe.
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Thats it. "Hammer Strength" i believe.
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LOL, that machine is a joke, but makes much more sense to the weight ratio.

I think I know my shrugs, considering it's one of my favorite exercises.
BTW: I trap pull 6 plates on each side free weight(585 lbs) for sets of 10.
CLEAN pulls with holds, I would say 5 plates on each side.
Good luck and keep it up!
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LOL, that machine is a joke, but makes much more sense to the weight ratio.

I think I know my shrugs, considering it's one of my favorite exercises.
BTW: I trap pull 6 plates on each side free weight(585 lbs) for sets of 10.
CLEAN pulls with holds, I would say 5 plates on each side.
Good luck and keep it up!
Just don't quit...like everyone else does.

Thanks..

I dont plan on stopping until i reach my goal165-170. I would probably be a lot closer to my goal(s) if it wasnt for all these obstacles in between (torn cartledge, stomache flu, depression etc. blah blah.) Those are just excuses though and arent going to help me put on mass.

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ah, the hammer machine. It's different but good job.

Yep, like comparing squats to the leg sled. None the less, decent weight for your size Mike. Keep on keepin' on.

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Not sure how far Euless is for you but Don and I(Matt and Jimmy as well but they havent been coming lately) have been working out at 24hour off of West Parkway. Youre more than welcome to join up if you like. I had to work out by myself today and not having a spot sucks. (I cant push myself as hard as i like) So the more people there the better.
I've been going to the 24hr in Mansfield. Kim wanted to start working out with me so we've been going there Mon-Thurs. I do miss those smith machine tricep negatives. She's not strong enough to spot me on those yet.

Congrats on the weight gain. Just imagine what you could do if you quit smoking.

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Just imagine what you could do if you quit smoking.
I had one cigarette yesterday. One!..... .. and zero thus far today.

Also, i dont think this is new thread worthy so ill ask all who have posted so far.

Im looking for a high calorie/protein bar to snack on through out the day. Im looking to buy in BULK.(Maybe greg can hook me up and ill buy that creatine also) I bought some from Wal-mart the other day and they were the worst tasting protein bars ever.

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I had one cigarette yesterday. One!..... .. and zero thus far today.

Also, i dont think this is new thread worthy so ill ask all who have posted so far.

Im looking for a high calorie/protein bar to snack on through out the day. Im looking to buy in BULK.(Maybe greg can hook me up and ill buy that creatine also) I bought some from Wal-mart the other day and they were the worst tasting protein bars ever.
Good job.


Check the link for bars.

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I havent weighed 150 since high school (97) - I am at 200 now. Starting to eat better and working out, just wish I didnt like food so much.

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I had one cigarette yesterday. One!..... .. and zero thus far today.

Also, i dont think this is new thread worthy so ill ask all who have posted so far.

Im looking for a high calorie/protein bar to snack on through out the day. Im looking to buy in BULK.(Maybe greg can hook me up and ill buy that creatine also) I bought some from Wal-mart the other day and they were the worst tasting protein bars ever.
The best ones ever made...
Vitamin world carries them.

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Vitamin world carries them.

Thanks bud. Ill have to check them out.

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Those machines are at least 15 lbs less than the actual weight, try your shrugs or bench max on free weights and you'll see.
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Those machines are at least 15 lbs less than the actual weight, try your shrugs or bench max on free weights and you'll see.
My max bench was on a normal bench, not a smith machine. I usually use free weights/ bench press bar for shrugs but as i mentioned above i didnt have straps.
Its easier for whatever reason without straps on the hammer strength machine.

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LOL. Thanks

Im the same weight as Don now. Its funny how a couple of inches makes you look. Considering he is bulky and i look like anorexias brother.

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Im the same weight as Don now. Its funny how a couple of inches makes you look. Considering he is bulky and i look like anorexias brother.
I plateau at 149... was heavier when i was like 17... but i duno what happened.
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My max bench was on a normal bench, not a smith machine. I usually use free weights/ bench press bar for shrugs but as i mentioned above i didnt have straps.
Its easier for whatever reason without straps on the hammer strength machine.
well in that case congrats on hard work. stay motivated, that's the hardest thing to deal with, lifting is the easy part.
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LOL. Thanks

Im the same weight as Don now. Its funny how a couple of inches makes you look. Considering he is bulky and i look like anorexias brother.

Don is bulky? haha

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"Bulkier" Compared to me, yes.

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Not trying to hate, but...

6 plate shrugs(315lbs) x 20 at 150lbs weight?
I would LOVE to see those jerks....errrr, I mean "shrugs".


Congrats on the gains though!
Keep it up, just eat, eat, eat.
315x20 @ 150 is good but it is not something that is unbelievable, alot of the high school guys I train can do 315 for reps on shrugs and don't weigh 150.

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315x20 @ 150 is good but it is not something that is unbelievable, alot of the high school guys I train can do 315 for reps on shrugs and don't weigh 150.
Not like I do it bro.
I used to personal train back in the day as well(cooper's clinic certified) and worked at a few gyms through college.
But then I figured out, there ain't no real $$$ in this game and everyone's a fu*kin know-it-all.
So now I just keep to myself and watch others.
I learn new stuff everyday(without people even knowing I am watching/learning).
Next week, whenever I hit that bodypart, I might give the new technique a try.
What works best for one, might not work best for another.
To me, it's all about personal preference on what works best.

Come workout with me...I'll show you what a "jerk" is vs. a true shrug.
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Those machines are at least 15 lbs less than the actual weight, try your shrugs or bench max on free weights and you'll see.
Which machines are you referring to?
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Which machines are you referring to?
This is what im referring to. I dont know what he is talking about or if were even on same page.


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or if were even on same page.
Nope. That thing is quite a bit easier to put weight on than doing regular barbell shrugs. For reference, I've put up 6 plates on that thing for reps, and don't hit over 4 on the barbell. Machines are always easier than their free-weight counterpart, but the chance of injury is less.

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Nope. That thing is quite a bit easier to put weight on than doing regular barbell shrugs. For reference, I've put up 6 plates on that thing for reps, and don't hit over 4 on the barbell. Machines are always easier than their free-weight counterpart, but the chance of injury is less.
Incorrect!

I've done a few machines that said I was doing only 165 lbs, but would end up pulling me out of the seat...I'm 190lbs. That's why alot of machines dont even have their weight values, just reference numbers so you can keep track of what wheight setting you use. I agree that most are easier, but not always the case.
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I've done a few machines that said I was doing only 165 lbs, but would end up pulling me out of the seat...I'm 190lbs. That's why alot of machines dont even have their weight values, just reference numbers so you can keep track of what wheight setting you use. I agree that most are easier, but not always the case.
Very true and a valid point.
But in general, Raven is correct.
But anyways weight is just a number!
Basically, just a moot point to work past.
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I've done a few machines that said I was doing only 165 lbs, but would end up pulling me out of the seat...I'm 190lbs. That's why alot of machines dont even have their weight values, just reference numbers so you can keep track of what wheight setting you use. I agree that most are easier, but not always the case.

Pound for pound, machines generally offer some type of mechanical advantage over the equivalent free movement. Period.

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Pound for pound, machines generally offer some type of mechanical advantage over the equivalent free movement. Period.
Yea, it's called leverage!
Machines difficulty level mainly depends on the angle of the pulleys,
and also the number of pulleys entailed into the machine's design.
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Pound for pound, machines generally offer some type of mechanical advantage over the equivalent free movement. Period.
Period...meaning there is no argument...

Mechanical advantage is the multiplication of an input force, then transferred or applied elsewhere with either a greater magnitude. Unless the apparatus is designed in terms of distance (which it generalyl isn't in weight lifting).

If I have 165 lbs, and it takes +190lbs there is no mechanical advantage in terms of ease of weight.

I know you're a very educated athlete, lets not get these guys confused if they're starting out. While it is true that in most cases it seems easier to lift the same weight on a machine, this is because there isn't as much a necessity for secondary supportive muscles. And the force follows a set trajectory. But some machines are proportined differently.

Dont compare weight on a machine to any other weight...only compare it to how it feels, and determine what you should be lifting by your max rep range.
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The "Hammer Strength" wide bench machine, i can push 2 plates on each side with another +15 on each side for 8.

If that were on olympic bar that would be what, 255? lol

So yeah id say some machines are considerably easier.

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Period...meaning there is no argument...
There is no argument. Regardless of what a machine is marked in terms of weight, it takes less effort to lift 100lbs on a machine than with the equivalent free weight movement. The only one that is confused is you.

The only case that it would be more difficult would be that the machine is in a state of disrepair, and a pulley or two is binding or something of that nature.

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The "Hammer Strength" wide bench machine, i can push 2 plates on each side with another +15 on each side for 8.

If that were on olympic bar that would be what, 255? lol

So yeah id say some machines are considerably easier.

No, for starters you're missing a 45lb bar. haha

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