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Ok so since the beginning of the transformation thread i've changed my diet around completely and it's helped out a bit. Started the first month with moving to low fat to get used to the lack of taste in those food, and switched to as much no fat and fat free foods as possible. The next area i'm looking at is the low sugar to sugar free foods. Are there any major difference I'll see in myself when I cut out all the sugar I can? Will I have to rely more on another thing for energy, will i tire out more easily? What can i expect?

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I recently cut out sugary drinks (drinking diets, Coke Zero, unsweetened tea, and water) and started only eating 1 meal a day and went from 245 (the last time I was weighed was at the doctor's office in February) to 225 last night; I'm doing more now than I was then, and I feel better.


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you will prob have to eat more often cause your metabolism will speed up, maybe try some musle milk for breakfast, not to many carbs and gives you some energy.
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Cutting out the sugar will have more of an effect on your body than the low fat. Sugar is your enemy. Cut out the sugar and up your fat a little (fat helps produce test) and watch your body change over the weeks.

Cut out simple carbs also. Wheat bread instead of white bread, whole grain pasta instead of bleached, whole rice instead of white.

You should have more energy after a few weeks of this. Just no more short term boost.
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crystal light is my new friend.

Yeah eat 3 small meals a day, dont do the 1 meal thing.
If you want some help and you havent already, pick you up some ALRI Venom Hyperdrive. Energy plus appetite control.
It's backorder so a lot of places are out but you know someone that has stocked up on it.

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Yeah eat 3 small meals a day, dont do the 1 meal thing.
If you want some help and you havent already, pick you up some ALRI Venom Hyperdrive. Energy plus appetite control.
It's backorder so a lot of places are out but you know someone that has stocked up on it.
Is Crystal light sugar free? How does the ALRI Venom Hyperdrive work?

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u should try the keto diet thats what iam on its a high fat very low carb very low protien diet . and just drink plenty of water. 4-6 small meals a day
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u should try the keto diet thats what iam on its a high fat very low carb very low protien diet . and just drink plenty of water. 4-6 small meals a day

Dont you mean very high in protien?

Save the keto stuff to shed the last few lbs of body fat once you are very lean. The rebound from a keto diet is not good and energy is always low.
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Is Crystal light sugar free? How does the ALRI Venom Hyperdrive work?

Yeah, sugar free. There is a write up on Hyperdrive on our website. The website is located <------- in my location. Look under "store" weight loss products. I try not to advertise on here since it's not allowed.

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i dont seem to be that sluggish iam still getting my workout routine done. when iam done cycling on animal cuts ill probly shift over back on my high protien diet but i like how it feeds my inner fat boy. ive lost like 65 pounds doing that just shifting diets around and such.
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How does the ALRI Venom Hyperdrive work?
I just took it for the first time this morning and I can tell you I've been more focused today at work. I'm usually real ADD about stuff. Plus I have the sudden urge to run an effin marathon today! Totally pumped and energized!

edit: as a point of reference...i took one pill at 6:30 this morning. it's 12:30 and i'm still feeling it's effects

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Yeah, sugar free. There is a write up on Hyperdrive on our website. The website is located <------- in my location. Look under "store" weight loss products. I try not to advertise on here since it's not allowed.

What is the Hyperdrive considered to be, a fat burner, energy booster, appetite replacement?

Is it something you take every day or just before you workout?

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel, "Pick up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land." Nearly 75 years ago, Roosevelt said,"Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a camel, this is the Promised Land." Now Obama has stolen your shovel..., taxed your asses, raised the price of camels and mortgaged the Promised Land!
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What is the Hyperdrive considered to be, a fat burner, energy booster, appetite replacement?

Is it something you take every day or just before you workout?
It's all of the above. You take 1 pill in the morning at first. Then up it to 1 pill in the morning and 1 at noon. Did you read about it on our site?

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Venom Hyperdrive 3.0™ 90 caps
WARNING:

If you are under 21 years of age, stick with ephedra and candy...

Venom Hyperdrive 3.0™ is for Adults 21 or over only!

Okay, before anyone panics and sends us nasty e-mails, ALR Industries Venom Hyperdrive 3.0™ has all of the same ingredients and amounts as the original Venom™…we just added two compounds. Of course it is a better product, but the other big plus is that, due to our ability to produce much larger volume, we have been able to make it more cost effective and pass the savings on to our customers. In short, thanks for loving the product.

Hey, Wanna Wear Your Clothes Like A Second Skin?

Venom Hyperdrive 3.0™ from ALR Industries is a supplement designed for adults age 21 or over only. This is a product created for those adults who need the best environment for extreme energy and fat modulation for dramatic results through responsible application of a highly advanced formula.

Directions: As a supplement begin by taking one (1) capsule first thing in the morning with food for first 2-3 days before progressing to one to two (1-2) capsules once daily(preferably in the morning…unless you are working the night shift) Always take this supplement with food and do not exceed recommended supplemental dosages.

*Most report a single morning dosage with food is all they need for optimal energy levels and fat modulation synergy the entire day.

So What Sets Venom™ Apart From the Rest?

Anyone can mix a bunch of compounds or herbs together and shove it into a capsule. All too often this is followed by ads that promise the world but deliver next to nothing. This is not to say that all products in this category are bad, just that “some” create doubt upon those that perform as intended. So let’s look at the research supporting the value of the synergistic ingredients formulated for Venom™.

Cocoamine™ (Only From ALR Industries) Cocoamine™ is trademarked and patent pending proprietary unique cocoa extract that provides the health benefits of chocolate without any of the unhealthy ingredients (you know, like sugar and fat).

Please do not confuse Cocoamine™ with the patented ingredient Chocomine™. Our Cocoamine™ is a unique matrix standardized for nearly 98% actives. Try it before you judge it!

Cocoamine™ contains several natural occurring substrates, including methylxanthines (theobromine, caffeine, and theophylline), biogenic-amines (phenylethylamine, tyramine, octopamine and synephrines), amino acids (phenylalanine, tryptophan, tyrosine, others), minerals (with a high content of magnesium) and several beneficial antioxidants.

*You may think you have used a product similar to this, but one dose of Venom Hyperdrive 3.0™ will show you how wrong you are. (Please start with only one capsule!)

Phenylethylamine (PEA) is a naturally occurring endogenous neuroamine that increases attention and activity in animals as well as humans and has been studied for its ability to relieve depression in 60% of depressed patients. It has been proposed that PEA deficit may be the cause of a common form of depression. It is also your body’s most powerful natural stimulant. Interesting is that PEA improves mood as rapidly as amphetamine but does not produce tolerance. Okay, natural PEA good and amphetamine is bad. Though they share many common positive affects, the latter is not a good option due its own negative affects. Got it?

Another interesting reality found in PEA research is its unique ability to stimulate striatal acetylcholine release. Big deal? Well, this neurotransmitter positively affects everything from libido to the sense of hunger with benefits to mood, focus and stress. Okay, and a positive effect upon erectile function has been noted in other studies. Big deal? You call it.

Caffeine is an interesting and well know compound, certainly nothing new to the supplement industry. But there is some valuable research that shows a lot of potential benefits. Yes, everyone already knows that it is noted as a compound that increases energy significantly.

In one rat study and several human studies, caffeine has show to have appetite suppressive value. Naturally most dieters cheat and can use all the will power they can get.

Another study has shown caffeine to decrease fat redeposit and aid thermogenesis through fat oxidation. In part this appears to result in suppressed leptin (you know, the fat regulating hormone)

Tyramine, Octopamine and Synephrines all have a positive effect upon beta-3 receptors thus increasing the rate of thermogenesis and metabolic rate. Many have compared the affects to those of ephedra mostly in a positive sense. Let me explain that a little better.

Several studies have found that patients who achieve only a small weight loss during dietary therapy, and have a tendency for weight regain, are characterized by lower energy expenditure, lower sympathetic activity, and a reduced ability to mobilize fat stores, compared with patients who are more successful at losing weight. (gee, really?)

It is reasonable to improve or normalize these traits by supporting the dietary approach with pharmacological/nutracuetical manipulation of central and peripheral pathways. Agents that stimulate adrenergic neurons are particularly suitable because they offer mechanisms for temporarily inhibiting hunger and for stimulating energy expenditure, lipolysis and fat oxidation. Interesting enough is that our bodies and diet can do this in a minimal way already…which means minimal results for your efforts. Supplementing these pathways with Venom Hyperdrive 3.0™ has the obvious affect…super charged results.

How (Science Geek Answer)?

Sympathomimetic compounds can reduce appetite and increase energy expenditure. Energy expenditure can be increased by 5-10% via stimulation of a combination of beta-adrenoceptors; beta3-adrenoceptors may predominate during chronic use. This increased energy expenditure increases the relative proportion of fat oxidation; as this is not fully compensated by increased energy intake, a negative energy balance occurs. This mechanism may be responsible for the long-term weight loss efficiency of agents like, ephedra, octopamine, tyramine and synephrines.

Noteworthy, the elevated plasma insulin of obese rats was lowered by octopamine. One study showed that octopamine can reduce body weight gain in obese rats, without apparent adverse effects, but with less efficacy than beta3-AR agonists.

Both individually and combined the combination of these multiple ingredients produces a unique effect. Research has substantiated the many positive user feed-back factoids about Cocoamine™, including increased energy, appetite suppression, lipolysis (fat burning), improved mood, improved concentration, increased alertness, improved physical performance, aphrodisiac properties, and health benefits. When correctly processed, all of these benefits become a reality. Naturally this discussion is based upon the research sites listed at the end. (When I am done babbling)

So What Else Is In It?

The need for extreme appetite suppression seems to be a large factor in the out come of any diet intended to help lose body fat. So we added hoodia. One study appears to have explained why people report long term hunger suppression with the use of hoodia. It seems likely that increased ATP content/production in the hypothalamus may be a signal for energy-sensing of satiety.

Next we included 5-HTP which acts as a precursor for serotonin (mood enhancement), R-ALA (R-Alpha Lipoic Acid) to aid in insulin mediation, guggul sterone extracts to support thyroid activity, Rhodiola to increase support for ATP and cAMP production, B vitamins to support energy pathways and capsiate for thermogenesis, lypolysis and anti-oxidant value.

Okay, Capsiate is kind of cool so I want to say a little more about it. Everyone in hard core bodybuilding has heard of the fat loss compound DNP. Well, it works by making the mitochondria burn more calories in effort to make ATP by uncoupling the process with a compound called UCP-1 and UPC-2 thus dramatically increasing calorie expenditure…and it is very dangerous. Better options?

It’s All About Synergy

A single dose of capsiate temporarily raised both UCP1 mRNA in brown adipose tissue and UCP3 mRNA in skeletal muscle. These results suggest that UCP1 and UCP2 may contribute to the promotion of energy metabolism by capsiate, but that thyroid hormones do not. In short, a smarter and naturally occurring option. Yes, both human and rat studies.

What Did We Add To The Original Intense Formula?

Propionyl-L-Carnitine Ethyl Ester: Regular L-carnitine is a wonderful amino acid that positively affects mitochondrial function and supports fat oxidation via carnitine shuttle. However, propionyl-l-carnitine (PLC) is a completely new animal with much more far reaching potential for ergogenic benefits than its more basic cousin. Used medically to treat heart problems and improve blood flow in the body, PLC has been shown to increase mental function, enhance overall energy, hasten oxidation of both glucose and lactate, push more glycogen into muscles, and lengthen the time to muscular fatigue. These effects mean just one thing to the hard training bodybuilder or athlete and dieting world…you can train harder, longer, and will recover better from each gut-busting workout! Ok, so that’s a few things…but even better! Oh yeah, did I mention Ethyl Ester technology? Duh. Esters can increase oral bioavailability by as much as 400% and propionyl-l-carnitine needed to be far more oral friendly…so we created Propionyl-L-Carnitine Ethyl Ester and added it to our energy oriented goodies.

Tyrosine Ethyl Ester: This is an obvious one. Tyrosine is an amino acid your body uses as a substrate to make active fat burning, metabolic rate governing thyroid hormones. When you diet your thyroid hormone production decreases which means it is harder to lose fat but you have muscle wastes away. Tyrosine for thyroid hormone function support is a no-brainer. Unfortunately oral tyrosine administration has poor bioavailability…did I mention esters having up to 400% better oral bioavailability?

Sum It Up?

Sometimes all of the right ingredients can be in a product but the correct amounts and standardization can blow the whole out come. It is all about the correct amounts of each substrate and that each acts in synergy with one another…without counteracting another…that makes the product gold or a rip-off.

Get what you pay for and try ALR Industries Venom Hyperdrive 3.0™…but please follow directions. We do things right.

Let Us Know How We did!

By The Way…Why Do Almost All Fat Loss Systems Fail?

Pretty simple really…

Come on now. Everyone wants to see what’s under that extra fat layer, but when we first start dieting (restricting our calorie intake) and augment the amount of calories we burn (by increasing exercise), everything goes great…for about the first week. Then, like most human’s on the planet, we start getting hungry (like eating a whole wedding cake at 3 AM type hungry) and run out of energy.

So, in short, you crave food and have no interest in doing anything that requires any energy unless it somehow involves that wedding cake and a gallon of milk. (ya, I know, no fat people jokes)

So What Do We Need To Succeed?

First, we need to clean up our diets by dropping sugars, alcohol, and excessive fatty foods (Okay, at least consume them only in moderation).

Second, we need to put together a training program that increases the number of calories we burn per day.

Last, we need to do something about that “Commit felonies for a wedding cake but too lazy to do so” feeling that always hits us like a ton of lard after the first week of lower calories! And a dramatic increase in metabolic rate (increased calorie expenditure) certainly would make the whole deal more worth while, huh?

ALR Industries Venom Hyperdive 3.0 has that covered!

Suggested use: As a dietary supplement test your tolerance by taking one (1) capsule in the morning with food for the first 7 to 10 days. After tolerance test, you may consider taking one (1) capsule to two (2) capsules, one (1) time daily with eight (8) ounces of water with food. DO NOT TAKE AFTER 5PM. MAY CAUSE SLEEPLESSNESS. DO NOT EXCEED TWO (2) CAPSULES DAILY.

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Hey Greg, is this something that will have a negative affect on me if I'm taking it and not working out every single day?

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Hey Greg, is this something that will have a negative affect on me if I'm taking it and not working out every single day?

To be honest....
I was on the tri-lean kit for 10days during my cut. (hyperdrive 3.0 is the main pill in the kit) I cant relate the 13lbs i lost because i was dieting and doing a LOT of cardio at the same time.

However, My brother used the rest of the kit and lost 16lbs in 2 and half weeks without even working out. Does that happen to most people no, but i do have people coming back to me all the time to buy this product over and over. They have had great results and love it so i push sales on it because i know it works.

Out of every 10 people that buy it 1-2 dont like it. That's awsome odds in the supplement industry.

Before you ask, the whole Tri-Lean kit is on backorder and has been for almost a month. It will be at least 3 more weeks untill it comes out again.

I have in stock the Venom Hyperdrive and the Venom Lean Dreams which are 2 bottles in the kit. Hyperdrive is now backordered also but i have 6 bottles left.

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To be honest....
I was on the tri-lean kit for 10days during my cut. (hyperdrive 3.0 is the main pill in the kit) I cant relate the 13lbs i lost because i was dieting and doing a LOT of cardio at the same time.

However, My brother used the rest of the kit and lost 16lbs in 2 and half weeks without even working out. Does that happen to most people no, but i do have people coming back to me all the time to buy this product over and over. They have had great results and love it so i push sales on it because i know it works.

Out of every 10 people that buy it 1-2 dont like it. That's awsome odds in the supplement industry.

Before you ask, the whole Tri-Lean kit is on backorder and has been for almost a month. It will be at least 3 more weeks untill it comes out again.

I have in stock the Venom Hyperdrive and the Venom Lean Dreams which are 2 bottles in the kit. Hyperdrive is now backordered also but i have 6 bottles left.

Fred you have a pm.
I'm doing cardio 4 times a week so I just wanted to make sure that it's not one of those supplements that requires you to workout constantly. Of the two what would you recommend if I'm doing cardio for an hour at a time 4 times a week with about an hour of workout with light weight but high reps?

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I'm doing cardio 4 times a week so I just wanted to make sure that it's not one of those supplements that requires you to workout constantly. Of the two what would you recommend if I'm doing cardio for an hour at a time 4 times a week with about an hour of workout with light weight but high reps?

For you the hyperdrive.
The lean dreams does have a cortisol blocker in it though. I do use to the Lean Dreams daily for sleeplessness reasons.

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Before you yank out all the sugar...what are your goals? I think you may be taking it a bit far. You body needs simple sugars as a direct supply of glucose for the body. Carbs will break down into sugars but it takes the body a while to do it. Are you looking to lose fat? Gain muscle?

Up your cardio and if you are looking to lose fat, then do your cardio at a medium pace. Eat 6 meals a day if possible. I really think you can do a lot without needing supplements. Dedication and diet are going to get you where you want to get. If you are having trouble curbing hunger...then supplements will help

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