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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-06-2008, 08:32 AM Thread Starter
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Any idea's on back issues...

For some reason whenever I do lat pull or pull ups, my left lat hurts.
It feels almost like a bone out of socket.
What's weird is it comes and goes.
As in, I did a set of pull ups with no issues this morning and did 5 sets on last weeks workout.
Went to start my second set today, and it hurt like a mofo!

I have no problems whatsoever with any variations of heavy rows.
My back is FAR from weak.
I stretch before(as in hanging and pulling back and forth) before my warmup.
I like to use pull ups and lat pulls as a warm up, but now I can't do that or run the risk of injury.
It's weird because I can still do 12 wheels on the hammer strength lat pulldown machine.
I guess it's the variation of the pull.
Do I just need to stay completely away from pull ups and lat pulls?
I guess I could go lighter on lat pull, but it kinda defeats the purpose.
Any suggestions on what I can do?
Appreciate any quality input...
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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-06-2008, 08:49 AM
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wow.. i have the same exact pain/issue right now and was wondering same thing. Only difference is that i have a sharp pain in my left rib and its not when lifting.

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i hope you gets get to feeling better on a more serious note.

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I'm certainly no doctor or trainer, but my gut (haha) tells me that going light on the lat pulls would help with that. That way you get the repetitive motion with less strain. It might not build killer lats for now, but it could help rehab that muscle so you can lift heavy later.

I have something similar, a stitch in my right rib muscle. If I stretch to far/long in that direction, it cramps up and hurts like a mofo, and I have to do a side crunch to un-fuck it. I've learned not to stretch that way.

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when you say " bone out of place" where do you feel it.. in the shoulder blade or the shoulder joint itself?

also. you shouldnt Stretch before warming up. that is PROVEN to be dangerous. you are streching muscles in a cold state. you should always to warmup, then stretch. .also.. theoretically if you read what stretching does..streching before lifting is actually counter productive as it sends the nervous system into a Relaxed and semi shut down mode..i know it sounds weird. but thats right out of a medical journal.

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also. you shouldnt Stretch before warming up. that is PROVEN to be dangerous. you are streching muscles in a cold state. you should always to warmup, then stretch. .also.. theoretically if you read what stretching does..streching before lifting is actually counter productive as it sends the nervous system into a Relaxed and semi shut down mode..i know it sounds weird. but thats right out of a medical journal.
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when you say " bone out of place" where do you feel it.. in the shoulder blade or the shoulder joint itself?

also. you shouldnt Stretch before warming up. that is PROVEN to be dangerous. you are streching muscles in a cold state. you should always to warmup, then stretch. .also.. theoretically if you read what stretching does..streching before lifting is actually counter productive as it sends the nervous system into a Relaxed and semi shut down mode..i know it sounds weird. but thats right out of a medical journal.
It's not in my shoulder, it's in my lat(or sholder blade).

Good thing I don't really stretch that much.
I do a bit of hanging, then hit up my sets.
Now as for my biceps, hell yea I have to stretch them.
Otherwise, they can lock up.


What's strange is that it comes and goes.
One minute, I'm lat pulling 270-300 lbs, next minute...I'm in excruciating pain.
I have been avoiding doing them for fear of hurting myself,
but lately been trying to incorporate them back into my routine.

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It's not in my shoulder, it's in my lat(or sholder blade).

Good thing I don't really stretch that much.
I do a bit of hanging, then hit up my sets.
Now as for my biceps, hell yea I have to stretch them.
Otherwise, they can lock up.


What's strange is that it comes and goes.
One minute, I'm lat pulling 270-300 lbs, next minute...I'm in excruciating pain.
I have been avoiding doing them for fear of hurting myself,
but lately been trying to incorporate other back exercises besides many different variations of row movements.
it sounds more like either a slight tear/pull or a tendon issue.

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For some reason whenever I do lat pull or pull ups, my left lat hurts.
My advice would be to not do lat pull or pull ups.

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it sounds more like either a slight tear/pull or a tendon issue.
Yea, it possibly could be.
It just sucks because I don't jerk like most idiots do on the lat pull machine.
I am pretty descent with my form and all.
Maybe I should try switching from a pronated to a supinated grip.
It still kinda hurts, but the human body was made to heal itself.
I quit doing them for around a month or so, but I've always felt like I was missing something with all the rows I do.
Now I'm starting to love the rowing movement.

Yea, I got a tendon issue in my right forearm that just kills me whenever I hit tri's.
I'm a hardhead though and just power through it!
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IMO it is either a strained tendon, pinched nerve, or maybe just a isolated cramp. Get plenty of potassium and water before your back day and see if that helps.

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IMO it is either a strained tendon, pinched nerve, or maybe just a isolated cramp. Get plenty of potassium and water before your back day and see if that helps.
Potassium might be the key perhaps.
I'll have to check my mult-V to see if it contains any.
I barely eat any fruit of any sort because of the fructose.
I drink at least a couple gallons of water a day.
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Potassium might be the key perhaps.
I'll have to check my mult-V to see if it contains any.
I barely eat any fruit of any sort because of the fructose.
I drink at least a couple gallons of water a day.
It's all I drink ever, besides the crown and patron!

Most multis have Potassium, but are developed for average people... not so much for very active people that work out a lot. Also something to consider is if it is time release or not. If it is digested at the wrong time, you can miss out on a lot of absorption. It may not hurt to eat a banana on those days. They only have about 27g of sugars (natural).

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