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Better eating starts where??

Looking to drop a few, hrmm, 40lbs by May.

Got the whole cardio/ workout thing going. What food can i eat That wont take me all freakin day to prepare.

Usually when i Diet, salads, & chicken breast tends to get boring.

Just looking for diff thing that i could maybe buy at the store and throw in the oven.

Help a fatty out here. Tahnks.

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if you want to lose fat...you need to stay away from the carbs. Dunno if you drink sodas or not but thats a big one.. Juices have lots of carbs as well. Any meat, fresh vegetables, salads, tuna...

Buy the roasted chickens at the grocery store..few different flavors. Not much you can throw in the oven..those are usually fried or are pastas. If you dont mind a SMALL meal, check out the banquet microwavable lunches...most are 40 carbs or so.

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if you want to lose fat...you need to stay away from the carbs. Dunno if you drink sodas or not but thats a big one.. Juices have lots of carbs as well. Any meat, fresh vegetables, salads, tuna...

Buy the roasted chickens at the grocery store..few different flavors. Not much you can throw in the oven..those are usually fried or are pastas. If you dont mind a SMALL meal, check out the banquet microwavable lunches...most are 40 carbs or so.
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If you want to lose weight, stay away from fat and sugars. Oh, and exercise. You have to burn more than you eat.

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I usually buy ground turkey meat...like the 1 lb packages...and just cook them in a pan and add some frozen vegetables...takes me about 15 min tops to do that and I have2-3 meals for the whole day..... works for me....
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if you want to lose fat...you need to stay away from the carbs. Dunno if you drink sodas or not but thats a big one.. Juices have lots of carbs as well. Any meat, fresh vegetables, salads, tuna...

Buy the roasted chickens at the grocery store..few different flavors. Not much you can throw in the oven..those are usually fried or are pastas. If you dont mind a SMALL meal, check out the banquet microwavable lunches...most are 40 carbs or so.
oh shit!! orange juice has 27g of carbhydrates is that good or bad?
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oh shit!! orange juice has 27g of carbhydrates is that good or bad?

Being that it's primarily sugar, that's bad. You want to stick with complex carbs like oatmeal, brown rice, yams, whole-wheat pasta, etc.

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Being that it's primarily sugar, that's bad. You want to stick with complex carbs like oatmeal, brown rice, yams, whole-wheat pasta, etc.
shit man i drink 32fl oz of oj every morning! guess i better change that!
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If you want to lose weight, stay away from fat and sugars. Oh, and exercise. You have to burn more than you eat.

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NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Researchers have identified a small protein in liver cells that may help convert excess dietary carbohydrates into fat stores. They hope that the finding will lead to the development of obesity-fighting drugs that inhibit the actions of this protein.

A team led by Dr. Kosaku Uyeda, of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas, identified the protein they call ChREBP in the liver of rats.

"When people eat desserts, pasta, potatoes or other sugar- and starch-laden foods beyond the body's energy and nutritional needs, these carbohydrates become a flood of glucose (sugar), and the liver converts the surplus glucose to fat," Uyeda explained in a written statement.
Why do you think all that Adkins diet and low carb diets are so popular?? They work (with exercise).

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shit man i drink 32fl oz of oj every morning! guess i better change that!

Yes, you should. You still need the water though.

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Why do you think all that Adkins diet and low carb diets are so popular?? They work (with exercise).

It works, but it is a short term solution to a long term problem. Crack cocaine is great for weight loss, but it's not something I'd recommend.

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It's all about portion control. like it was said earlier you have to burn more than you take in. some athletic people can take in 4,000 calories a day and maintain body wieght . the more muscle mass you have and the more active you are all contribute to you daily caloric needs. It takes 3500 calories of excess to gain one pound. so if you add up all the calories you eat for one week and cut out 3500 over a weeks time then you loose a pound a week or 2000 calories is the average recomened intake to maintain healthy body weight than if you take in 500 calories less per day/ per week than you loose one pound.

there is no such thing as a bad food its all good in moderation.

NO Carbs is a bad thing, it puts you in ketosis which is the state in which the body starts breaking down stored carbs and muscle tissue to perform all the functions of the body.

the Number one reason diet fail is because to many people crash diet the stop eating all together and the body starts beaking down muscle tissue to get the proper amino acids and such to keep the body going but as you loose muscle mass your caloric needs go down so now 2000 calories is to much were before you lost weight so they gain all the weight back.

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there is no such thing as a bad food its all good in moderation
High fructose corn syryup and saturated fats have no place in the human body.

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If you want to lose weight, stay away from fat and sugars.
Oh, and exercise. You have to burn more than you eat.

"When people eat desserts, pasta, potatoes or other sugar- and starch-laden foods beyond the body's energy and nutritional needs, these carbohydrates become a flood of glucose (sugar), and the liver converts the surplus glucose to fat," Uyeda explained in a written statement.

Notice the foods talked about are STARCHES and SUGARS? Excess sugar is absorbed as fat.

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"When people eat desserts, pasta, potatoes or other sugar- and starch-laden foods beyond the body's energy and nutritional needs, these carbohydrates become a flood of glucose (sugar), and the liver converts the surplus glucose to fat," Uyeda explained in a written statement.

Notice the foods talked about are STARCHES and SUGARS? Excess sugar is absorbed as fat.
carbs help sugar turn into fat... pasta and potatoes are full of carbs

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carbs help sugar turn into fat... pasta and potatoes are full of carbs
Sugars are carbohydrates, they just happen the second easiest thing to store, second to fat. It requires 10x more work to turn sugar into fat than it does to store fat.

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Good Lord you guys! He is asking for ideas on food to eat not a debate about what will or will not work. *smack*

Can you cook at all? There is a difference between lazy and unable.

You could always sign up for stuff like the Discovery National Body Challege or http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/mysparkstart.asp

They give you meal plans then you can pick and choose what will work for you. Good luck!

Hey Aaron- Kc has an interesting dilema - He is up till about 3AM every day and gets hungry after we eat what would be dinner around 6PM. Are there any options for snacks for him .... or even a dinner that late? I know eating after a certain time is bad but with him staying home with the baby his days are different than most peoples. Ideas?



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carbs help sugar turn into fat... pasta and potatoes are full of carbs

All carbs are broken down into sugar in the digestion process, as does alcohol. Carbs don't help sugar, they become sugar, which is then stored as fat.

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No carbs can work but the diet is 1) not so great for the heart and 2) will tear apart your lean mass as well as fat. Not to mention it can hurt your immune system.
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Hey Aaron- Kc has an interesting dilema - He is up till about 3AM every day and gets hungry after we eat what would be dinner around 6PM. Are there any options for snacks for him .... or even a dinner that late? I know eating after a certain time is bad but with him staying home with the baby his days are different than most peoples. Ideas?

Eating after a certain time isn't bad, it's eating too much and the wrong kind of food too close to bed time. I eat a shake every night right before bed, but my calories are controlled to the point that it's not a problem. One of my favorite late night snacks is fat free cottage cheese. There's obviously more sugar in it, but fat free yogurt is a better choice than most.

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Fat free cottage cheese + grapes = the shit.
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What else? I'd like him to have some options and since I do the shopping....



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What else? I'd like him to have some options and since I do the shopping....
If he's not looking to get super fit, anything that is low-fat and low sugar will be fine, it's portion control that he needs to focus on.

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Eating after a certain time isn't bad, it's eating too much and the wrong kind of food too close to bed time. I eat a shake every night right before bed, but my calories are controlled to the point that it's not a problem. One of my favorite late night snacks is fat free cottage cheese. There's obviously more sugar in it, but fat free yogurt is a better choice than most.

I eat cottage cheese every night before bed too. IT SUCKS


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I eat cottage cheese every night before bed too. IT SUCKS
I'm not a fan myself. Yack.

But, I'm also pretty dedicated to getting the baby weight off too. I guess I'll buy some to try and force down as another snack option.



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I'm not a fan myself. Yack.

But, I'm also pretty dedicated to getting the baby weight off too. I guess I'll buy some to try and force down as another snack option.

Good luck with it rhonda. I just eat it to keep from being catabolic at night. It digests really slow so my body can feed of that instead of itself.


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Usually at night is when i get the "hunger" attack. I have cut out any fast food, cokes, candy etc.

My work out time is around 6pm everyday.

I eat a salad w/ chicken when i get off work around 5pm.

then I Come home and have some fruit or a smoothie. (after workout)

Breakfast is usually cereal or oatmeal. Lunch is turkey on wheat with mustard, no cheese.

Eating like this get me to my goals.

Seeing how i ate at all the junk food joints before, this should help alot.

My friend im working out with ( ex bodybuilder) tells me to take in alot of protein?

He has trouble gaining weight.

I DONT want to get bigger, just tone up what i got.

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I'm not a fan myself. Yack.

But, I'm also pretty dedicated to getting the baby weight off too. I guess I'll buy some to try and force down as another snack option.

Try non-fat plan yogurt. If you cant stand it plan cut it with a little vanilla, just dont go crazy.

Oh and snack on vegetables too. Just dont let them swim in ranch.

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meats - chicken, fish, lean red (try to avoid it), turkey is awesome

veggies - anything green, try to prep without salt and don't use butter.

as for the 'carb' type foods, avoid white bread, white rice, etc... low-sugar wheat bread, whole grain pastas, brown rice, oatmeal, etc are complex carbohydrates.

to be perfectly honest, you need to find out what you are taking in daily. what do you weigh? a cross-country runner can consume 7,000 calories a day when they are training out the ass. weight + exercise = needed caloric intake.

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I am 5'6 and weigh 224. But its not all fat. I have a medium/ large build+ my gut. lol.

I "think" i need to be around 165 to 180.

I looked at some chart a few months back that said i should be 155 at my height. HA.HA.HA.

Aint gonna happen.

Im doing cardio about 6 days a week 30-45 min at day. keeping heart rate above 160.

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On days with solid cardio, 2,500-2,800 will do the trick. Any off day needs to be around 2,000. Eat 5-6 times per day, and keep water intake over a gallon, preferably closer to 1.5-2 gal.

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Being that it's primarily sugar, that's bad. You want to stick with complex carbs like oatmeal, brown rice, yams, whole-wheat pasta, etc.
Natural sugars aren't all that bad though. It's the fake high fructose corn syrup stuff you need to stay away from. I.E. sodas and anything that's artificially sweetened.
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Good luck with it rhonda. I just eat it to keep from being catabolic at night. It digests really slow so my body can feed of that instead of itself.
How the HELL do you eat that stuff? I bought some last night and choked down a small bowl but damn it was awful! Kc said I should mix it with peaches but seems like that would cancel out the 'good' part of it. *shudders*



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very important to eat something within 1hr of waking up. 1egg slice of whole wheat toast. or I just grab a glucerna because it has the slow digest carbs and about half of the other shakes. skipping breakfast usually forces the body into fat storage mode thus causing the beer belly. (in most cases) i'm trying to break this habit now.
also for lunch i usually grab a healthy choice meal or south beach mostly because of the protein and cheaper than whataburger or mcdonalds for lunch. main thing that helped me lose 25lbs was cutting all sodas including diet. and not eating fast food. I only allow myself once a week if i have stuck to eating good so i dont go on a binge.
also exercise is very important. if you really think about it, it's all common sense.
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so can anyone give him (onjacks) and me some good examples cause i need to change my diet, and i dont want to do it wrong i tried looking it up, but all i get are types of diets.. already got the "calorie intake < calories burned" down. just need to know how to control the calorie intake.
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lose the word "diet" and make lifestyle changes. you can lose weight on a diet but when you get off the diet the weight will come back. just make changes such as grilled chicken or wrap instead of a big mac, stairs instead of elevator or eat supper earlier (not after 6 or 7pm) . it takes 21days to create a habit so it will get easier. like i used to crave sodas now I cant stand them. just use common sense, people make it seem difficult so you think you have to buy a product from them in order to accomplish something.
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lose the word "diet" and make lifestyle changes. you can lose weight on a diet but when you get off the diet the weight will come back. just make changes such as grilled chicken or wrap instead of a big mac, stairs instead of elevator or eat supper earlier (not after 6 or 7pm) . it takes 21days to create a habit so it will get easier. like i used to crave sodas now I cant stand them. just use common sense, people make it seem difficult so you think you have to buy a product from them in order to accomplish something.
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There is a lot of good info in here, but IMO, better eating starts with portion control. Trying to change everything at once might not lead to failure, but it'll make succeeding MUCH harder. Manage your portions, meaning, more frequent, but smaller meals, first, and slowly start making more changes as you get comfortable. You didn't get heavy overnight, you're not going to lose it overnight, either.
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On days with solid cardio, 2,500-2,800 will do the trick. Any off day needs to be around 2,000. Eat 5-6 times per day, and keep water intake over a gallon, preferably closer to 1.5-2 gal.

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I think one of the biggest things is to eat more often, smaller portions. I've noticed that I eat a heck of a lot less calories if I snack 2-3 times per day. Snacks for me are ONLY fruits and/or veggies. Most of the time I take a banana and apple to work. Yogurt and granola in the morning, fruit around 10, lunch (usually veggies and some chicken), snack around 3, dinner around 7, usually some grapes around 9. You'll notice you eat a lot less at dinner if you follow this.
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Hard boiled eggs are a good snack or turkey rolled up in a swiss ch. slice is pretty good too.



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Hard boiled eggs are a good snack or turkey rolled up in a swiss ch. slice is pretty good too.
Stay away from the yolks, they have all the cholesterol and saturated fat.

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Stay away from the yolks, they have all the cholesterol and saturated fat.

I've also read that the yolks have good cholesterol and there are now studies saying to eat the yolk.
Not like i care, im gonna eat it all.

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Well. Ive been eating better than I have in my entire life. I feel great, and it's only been almost 2 weeks. Lol.

Usually "good" cereal in the mornings. Subway for lunch. Salad w/ chicken or a good sandwich before workout.

Small amounts of fruit in the later hours.

Burning about 500 cal a day. 6 days a week. Am i on the right track??

Im gonna weigh myself every month to see my results.

Hope this shit works.

One day at a time.
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Well. Ive been eating better than I have in my entire life. I feel great, and it's only been almost 2 weeks. Lol.

Usually "good" cereal in the mornings. Subway for lunch. Salad w/ chicken or a good sandwich before workout.

Small amounts of fruit in the later hours.

Burning about 500 cal a day. 6 days a week. Am i on the right track??

Im gonna weigh myself every month to see my results.

Hope this shit works.

Recommend you also take measurements, (neck, chest, abdomen, waist, and thighs) at first you may gain muscle and actually gain a few pounds, this will reassure you that you are progressing and not get discouraged.
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I am just jumping up and down. the fewer wobbles, the better.

I not gonna really worry about my weight loss right now. I might get discouraged.

Im just gonna stay at it and let my results speak for themself.

One day at a time.
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