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post #1 of 64 (permalink) Old 11-10-2007, 12:50 PM Thread Starter
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those of you who juice how do you get clomid and other meds to offset the test intake. Go into dr's office and say hey i need this b/c im doing this or what?

You can pm me if you dont want to answer on the fourm.
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Clomid used to offset test intake? Man, you have some reading to do. Maybe you should put the needle down before you hurt yourself?
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Clomid used to offset test intake? Man, you have some reading to do. Maybe you should put the needle down before you hurt yourself?
LOL
Dave, don't you know test is bad for you man!
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You have bitch tits aready?? J/K


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I have read just using that med as an example

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Clomid used to offset test intake? Man, you have some reading to do. Maybe you should put the needle down before you hurt yourself?
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Dave I have your post about the offsetting meds. And no I am not wanting to get big to beat someones ass lol. I have 6 months until I move back to the metro and want to get a jump start.
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hell Yeah.

Get BIG or Die Tryin' lol.

Honestly go to www.steroid.com
and do some research on the shit.
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This isnt candy you are dealing with. You need to research everything prior to starting. You can get the PCT and ancillary meds at the following sites...

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http://www.chemoneresearch.com/index.php
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thanks alot. I am reading alot right now and will make sure I do it right.
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So are you pretty big now, or are you just looking for the easy way?

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Why juice, what type of competition are you doing?
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LMAO...you think because someone uses AAS they are taking the easy way? Most people that use work out as hard or harder than the non-user since they have more invested...but I see your point. Either way, you have to lift that heavy ass iron!
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Why juice, what type of competition are you doing?
I think he's in the running for the semi annual HNIC comp, trying to win the Bad Motherfucker Wallet.

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LMAO...you think because someone uses AAS they are taking the easy way?
YES


My 2 cents on it:
It's a lot harder getting a NA car down the track as fast as a power adder car.
But if you have it at your disposal and choose to take that path, so be it.
It's just not a fair comparison.
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I think it's okay to use steroids as long as your not competing in a competition. I mean you only live once so why not look and feel the way you want?


People always say it's cheating.... It's cheating if you are competing in a sport.

Who is it cheating if you are some normal person doing it because you want to?

My .2 cents! I did it in high school when I was young and dumb. From what I've heard and learned, I don't think younger guys (under 21) need to take it because it can mess up or stop your natural test production.


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I think it's okay to use steroids as long as your not competing in a competition. I mean you only live once so why not look and feel the way you want?


People always say it's cheating.... It's cheating if you are competing in a sport.

Who is it cheating if you are some normal person doing it because you want to?

My .2 cents! I did it in high school when I was young and dumb. From what I've heard and learned, I don't think younger guys (under 21) need to take it because it can mess up or stop your natural test production.
Completely true but as a reminder you take them the right way or you face the consequences. My recommendation is if you don't at least have a good work out routine and good size on you don't mess with it till the basics are required my .02 cents
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If you have to ask, you are no where near educated enough to be taking anabolic steroids.

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As someone whose worked out hard for the past 8 years to get where I am...I'd say It is taking the easy way out. If I would have juiced...I would be fucking huge with half the workout. The only way i'd say it's acceptable is if you're over 35.

On the same note I don't necessarily look down on it. I've had alot of friends do it...and have been very tempted. But there's just something about being able to say I'm natural...and not be a liar.
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I would be fucking huge with half the workout.
This sentence is pure ignorance.

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It's very tempting. I have relatively easy access to about anything I want, and a host of people who know how to properly administer what I'd like to take. However, I have no ambition to enter into any kind of serious competition, and as such I won't do it. I would love to go thru 2 8-week cycles of dbol oral.

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This sentence is pure ignorance.
Please go into detail workout god.....
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Please go into detail workout god.....
I think what he's getting at is that you still to work out just as much, you just achieve the results a lot faster.

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I think what he's getting at is that you still to work out just as much, you just achieve the results a lot faster.
I'm confident that i could juice and cut back on my workouts...and still see more results.
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Please go into detail workout god.....

I agree with you. A lot of pro's workout for less than 30min.

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I agree with you. A lot of pro's workout for less than 30min.
I'm not saying I'm a pro...and I'm not saying I'm as big as a pro. That's a rediculous comparison. My livelyhood is not based on my physique. Keep in mind huge for me is 205+ at 8%
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I am researching now. I agree if I do it I will do it correctly. At my age I personally dont see a problem doing it correctly.
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I'm confident that i could juice and cut back on my workouts...and still see more results.
is that because you work out like a bitch? your your genetics suck?

JUST KIDDING


when it comes to juicing. i reccomend naturaly squeezed orange juice.. or cranberry... nothing works better

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I'm confident that i could juice and cut back on my workouts...and still see more results.
That's you being lazy, not the juice. Anybody I've talked or read about on the boards works out harder and havier while on, as they have more invested, and a more intense desire to make gains. Sure, it can make life easier for a lazy-ass, but that's not the purpose.

BTW, 205lbs at any decent height is not "big".

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205 = FLYWeight!!!
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205 = FLYWeight!!!
no way.. 205.. is heavy....




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That's you being lazy, not the juice. Anybody I've talked or read about on the boards works out harder and havier while on, as they have more invested, and a more intense desire to make gains. Sure, it can make life easier for a lazy-ass, but that's not the purpose.

BTW, 205lbs at any decent height is not "big".
If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.
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If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.
Im 5'11 205 @ 10% and im no where near huge.

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Keep in mind guys...he said the majority of the people.
Unfortunately, the majority of the people in the United States...don't workout at all!

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If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.
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If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.
its all relative.. im consider myself small for a lifter

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If i were to gain 20lbs of solid muscle...I would consider myself big. Compared to the majority of people...5'10 and 205 @ 8% is huge.

That's crux of this disease, I thought the same thing when I was smaller. Now that I'm [email protected]% I want 220.

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Keep in mind guys...he said the majority of the people.
Unfortunately, the majority of the people in the United States...don't workout at all!
For the "majority", 205lbs is small. The obesity rate in this country is outta control.

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I'm 6'3" @ 285 and I don't think I'm big.

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For the "majority", 205lbs is small. The obesity rate in this country is outta control.
Yea, definately becoming more and more Big Bertha's out there!
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its all relative.. im consider myself small for a lifter
small for a lifter...huge for a bowling ball...hahaha just kidding.


and exactly...it's all relative...
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my theory is if you can't spell juicing correctly you probably don't need to be sticking needles in your ass!
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Using Nolva doing a cylce will depend on how much gear you are taking. In most case if running 500mg of Test a week you may not need Novla which helps stop bitch tit including other things. Clomid is used after Post cycle treatment or PCT. This is used to get your testes back working again and producing the Test your body use to make. A lot of this stuff you can get off line with no problem. I'm 40 and been cycling now for about a year and I can sy this. It's not what you think it is.

AAS is not going to make you into a monster unless you take large amounts of it and the cost alone would make you think twice about doing it. Also AAS does not create muscle it makes your body more efficent at how it up takes protiens. If you think doing one cycle will have you looking like some buff ass dude your wrong. unless you have a great looking body at first then you have a long road to build it. Yes it is quicker than being natty but still you have to work hard rest and eat a lot of food or your wasting your time and hurting your body in the long run.

You hear guys putting on 20lbs and everyone says wow I want to do that. I put on 18lbs in no time but you have to remember 12 lbs is going to be water your body holds from the AAS which after your finish your AAS you will loose the water and loose the weight. You may put on 10lbs a year of solid muscle that you keep if you know what your doing. That means the right diet and workout routeen..

AAS is safe but you have to be smart and don't try to achive to much to soon this is how people get hurt. Be smart and take a slow road will get you what I have and for my age is pretty good being I only have been doing it a year but I have done a year of research and still do research till this day..
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Using Nolva doing a cylce will depend on how much gear you are taking. In most case if running 500mg of Test a week you may not need Novla which helps stop bitch tit including other things. Clomid is used after Post cycle treatment or PCT. This is used to get your testes back working again and producing the Test your body use to make. A lot of this stuff you can get off line with no problem. I'm 40 and been cycling now for about a year and I can sy this. It's not what you think it is.

AAS is not going to make you into a monster unless you take large amounts of it and the cost alone would make you think twice about doing it. Also AAS does not create muscle it makes your body more efficent at how it up takes protiens. If you think doing one cycle will have you looking like some buff ass dude your wrong. unless you have a great looking body at first then you have a long road to build it. Yes it is quicker than being natty but still you have to work hard rest and eat a lot of food or your wasting your time and hurting your body in the long run.

You hear guys putting on 20lbs and everyone says wow I want to do that. I put on 18lbs in no time but you have to remember 12 lbs is going to be water your body holds from the AAS which after your finish your AAS you will loose the water and loose the weight. You may put on 10lbs a year of solid muscle that you keep if you know what your doing. That means the right diet and workout routeen..

AAS is safe but you have to be smart and don't try to achive to much to soon this is how people get hurt. Be smart and take a slow road will get you what I have and for my age is pretty good being I only have been doing it a year but I have done a year of research and still do research till this day..

Good you know what you are talking about..... Me = HGH, test, clem. 215 lbs 450bench. I should weigh 175-180 natural. Took long as fuck to get there.
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