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Newbie Question about lifting

I just signed up to a gym and I have been reading online getting a routine together as well as a diet.
I do have a question about lifting weights.
I see that they have routines with different equipment. IE: Barbells, Dumbells,Lever, and cable. I see where you can do the same exercise with each one although some do hit different muscles.
Can you all tell me what the difference is between each one as far as: Is one better than the other?

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I just signed up to a gym and I have been reading online getting a routine together as well as a diet.
I do have a question about lifting weights.
I see that they have routines with different equipment. IE: Barbells, Dumbells,Lever, and cable. I see where you can do the same exercise with each one although some do hit different muscles.
Can you all tell me what the difference is between each one as far as: Is one better than the other?

Thanks alot,
Barbells are more suited to heavier lifts and compound movements, whereas cables and dumbells are good for "finishing off" a particular muscle.

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Barbells are more suited to heavier lifts and compound movements, whereas cables and dumbells are good for "finishing off" a particular muscle.
this is true. and it also boils down to prefference.. Some ppl like doing say incline with barbells. i preffer dumbells. you are pretty much limited by your gym. It would be pointless for some ppl to do dumbell bench because the dumbells just dont go high enough.. or dumbell dead lift. You need to fine tune your routine and stick with it. IE i dont do straight bar curls PERIOD. puts way to much un needed pressure on the lower back, but with dumbells i can still go fairly heavy and built an above average sized arm..

The important thing is you need to get your basics form down and concentrate on keeping that form GOOD and your work outs intense.

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What about seated straight bar curls?
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What about seated straight bar curls?

Preacher curls still strain the back, but not near as much. IMO for the average sized person, either are fine, as they aren't swinging heavy weight.

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Preacher curls still strain the back, but not near as much. IMO for the average sized person, either are fine, as they aren't swinging heavy weight.
lol like I'm moving any kind of "heavy" weight.

I have increased on my Military press 40 lbs from when I started ...I won't stay what I started at or what I'm at though because it's down right embarrassing.
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Chalk, Steroids, Bench shirt, and Hydroxycut...that's all you need to know!
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What is your goal? Are you looking to put on size, conditioning, cutting down extra weight?

If you are looking for add size then here's what you need to know. First off, stay with the basics. The means using freeweights and basic compound movements, ie: benchpress, incline benchpress, shoulder press, dumbbell benchpress, laterals, side laterals, bentover dead press, pull ups, chins, deadlifts, squats, hack squats, front squats, stiff legged dead lifts, leg curls, standing calf raise. Stay with these at first, about 6 weeks, and you will notice a difference. Just keep it simple.
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lol like I'm moving any kind of "heavy" weight.

I have increased on my Military press 40 lbs from when I started ...I won't stay what I started at or what I'm at though because it's down right embarrassing.

You started at 5lbs?!

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if you are using chalk.. you dont need staroids.
I have found that blending the chalk with the juice then site injecting produces the best result. Unless you want to take it up a notch and try the stage 3 performance enhancer...Chalk laced with cocaine + Riods.
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I have found that blending the chalk with the juice then site injecting produces the best result. Unless you want to take it up a notch and try the stage 3 performance enhancer...Chalk laced with cocaine + Riods.
cocaine is a helleva drug...

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You started at 5lbs?!
on each side of the bar at least! give me some credit...

damn bar is heavy though.
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on each side of the bar at least! give me some credit...

damn bar is heavy though.
hey.. all i do is the bar!! now come lift with me

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hey.. all i do is the bar!! now come lift with me
I don't want to lower you guys intensity or slow you down.

Maybe after the new year when I no longer have access to UTA's gym for free.
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hell im just trying to keep up with aaron.. one day i will lift real weight too

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hell im just trying to keep up with aaron.. one day i will lift real weight too
Me too!

On another note, I hit 275 x 6(for 3 sets) Barbell shoulder press at 5am this morning.
F-in diet is killing me though!
Not bad for being 4 weeks back in the game...
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I LOVE dumbell presses. I had a lot of issues with bench press due to form and control. Doing a lot of dumbell press helped me develop a lot of control, and my bench is responding well. There's nothing like good form.

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Me too!

On another note, I hit 275 x 6(for 3 sets) Barbell shoulder press at 5am this morning.
F-in diet is killing me though!
Not bad for being 4 weeks back in the game...
right now im not going above 275 or 315 for seated miltary press. mainly because im doing it with a fucked up left rotator cuff and bursitis in my right shoulder... i can tell that the diet definaly pulled my reps down.. i had 275 for sets of 8-10.. under 1800 cal a day droped me to well below that.

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right now im not going above 275 or 315 for seated miltary press. mainly because im doing it with a fucked up left rotator cuff and bursitis in my right shoulder... i can tell that the diet definaly pulled my reps down.. i had 275 for sets of 8-10.. under 1800 cal a day droped me to well below that.
Get your ass up to 2,700 calories, and bust at least 700 of them right after the workout!

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Cody B, which gym you at? LA Fitness or Lifetime, assuming you're in Mckinney...

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Get your ass up to 2,700 calories, and bust at least 700 of them right after the workout!
naa im good around 180 im trying to lose wegiht.. at 2700 i start packing on beaf like no bodys bussines

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ummm no.. not really.. i built 21" arms with dumbells.. havent curled a barebell since i hit 16"

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ummm no.. not really.. i built 21" arms with dumbells.. havent curled a barebell since i hit 16"
Yeah, and Jefferson Starship built this city on rock and roll. That doesn't mean it works for everyone.

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my point exactly. and neither do barbells.

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