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Any of you ever done roids the "right way"

by which i mean useing the injectables that come after the cycle. nolvadex, clomid, vitamin E, ect. it seems that all i run into at the gym is dopes that want to hurt themselves with it. they dont seem to understand that if taken properly, they can be a safe and useful bodybuilding tool.

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by which i mean useing the injectables that come after the cycle. nolvadex, clomid, vitamin E, ect. it seems that all i run into at the gym is dopes that want to hurt themselves with it. they dont seem to understand that if taken properly, they can be a safe and useful bodybuilding tool.

A proper "PCT" is good thing, but nolva, clomid, vitamin E, are not injectables. The best "PCT" injectable after a cycle is HCG. Nolva is good during a cycle, but aromasin would be a better choice. I would stop the Nolva after the cycle.
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Do you think that guys on juice are lazy?
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Do you think that guys on juice are lazy?

Not really. I know that it still takes a LOT of work to get big on roids. I just know a lot of guys that work out for 6 months and then start taking steroids. They gain some good mass and then a year later look like they did before they ever started.

I would just rather work hard naturally. Not putting anybody down, hell I have thought about taking steroids in the past. I'd just rather do it naturally.
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Do you think that guys on juice are lazy?
Yep sure do, or pussy's one or the other.

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Yep sure do, or pussy's one or the other.

So guys like Ronnie Coleman, Branch Warren, Jay Cutler, etc are lazy pussies? Whatever ya say man.........
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Yep sure do, or pussy's one or the other.

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No real men do it naturally. Most people that do shit tons of roids have serious mental issues with their self esteem. Roids are for pussy's that are not willing to put the work in to do it naturally. The only Ignorant people are ones that want to take a "Illegal" drug to make you fell better about yourself.

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The pros work just as hard in the gym, if not harder, than any natural lifter that I know. Not to mention having the self control and attention to detail to be able to diet down for contest. It takes alot more than a few needles to form a contest physique, if it were really that easy there would be alot more pros.

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Just going out on a limb here, but i don't think a single person in this thread is a pro. bodybuilder. Pros also get their body's to the limit before using roids.

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Just going out on a limb here, but i don't think a single person in this thread is a pro. bodybuilder. Pros also get their body's to the limit before using roids.
No they don't, and you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Just going out on a limb here, but i don't think a single person in this thread is a pro. bodybuilder. Pros also get their body's to the limit before using roids.

How do you know every pro got his/her body to the genetic limit before taking drugs? I can assure you there are some people in this thread that take body building serious. Me included.
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I'd venture to guess that Ronin isn't a very big individual, with lots of natural "potential".

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I'd venture to guess that Ronin isn't a very big individual, with lots of natural "potential".
Think what ever you want man.

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No they don't, and you have no idea what you're talking about.
Well i guess they lie on their interviews.

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Think what ever you want man.
In other words, "You're right, and I can't disprove you, so in lieu of evidence, I'll play coy."

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Well i guess they lie on their interviews.
Ya think? Wow, so you're well on your way to your astro-physicist status with posts like those. Of course they're going to tell people they're natural, or that they pushed as far as they could without the juice, it's the politically correct thing to do.

Do you think all of the NFL players that swear they're not on dope are being truthful?

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In other words, "You're right, and I can't disprove you, so in lieu of evidence, I'll play coy."
hahaha. Well considering i was out of lifting for 5 months because of a ACL,LCL, and meniscus surgery, i think im doing pretty good right now. I just wish i could be as big of a bad ass as yall. I really could care less, fill your body with shit, die young because of it. No sweat off my back.

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Your ignorance abounds. Test and GH have been proven to improve quality of life as well as longevity. They are both produced in the body, I'd hardly consider that to be "shit". They may be illegal, but they are far better for you than the alcohol and cigarettes that are legal. Get off your high horse.

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hahaha. Well considering i was out of lifting for 5 months because of a ACL,LCL, and meniscus surgery, i think im doing pretty good right now. I just wish i could be as big of a bad ass as yall. I really could care less, fill your body with shit, die young because of it. No sweat off my back.
I'm a weak bitch, and am more than willing to admit it. Sucks about your injury and you're more than welcome to your opinion, but medicine has come along way since everyone was just popping dianabol with no PCT.

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Your ignorance abounds. Test and GH have been proven to improve quality of life as well as longevity. They are both produced in the body, I'd hardly consider that to be "shit". They may be illegal, but they are far better for you than the alcohol and cigarettes that are legal. Get off your high horse.
Dont forget cancer and liver failure. Sorry if i sound like i am on a "High horse" But i have seen way to many people/friends fuck up their lives because of illegal drugs.

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People who do life altering things uninformed will always get hurt, it's the nature of the beast. Under proper care, it's been proven to have minimal ill effects and in many cases improves quality of life.

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Just going out on a limb here, but i don't think a single person in this thread is a pro. bodybuilder. Pros also get their body's to the limit before using roids.
as a matter of fact i know several pros personally. who started juicing within a year of starting to lift.. no where NEAR their natural limit...

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Wow, we have some brilliant minds on this site. I hope the thread starter isnt considering using these drugs..."Hey guys, how the hell do I get this here clomid pill into my syringe? Just grind it up?"

Everyone has their preconceived notions about using AAS. Most of the time these people do not come up with this abnegation on their own...they see it on TV or hear some 'friends' talk about it and assume that it must be true. Yes, AAS can be dangerous if abused...like ANY medication. Heck, as little as 8-10 extra strength tylenol can be fatal if taken at once. What kills me is that drugs like AAS are illegal (most of which are used by normal people who want to improve their physique) and cigarettes and alcohol (proven to be killers) are legal. Such hypocrisy. But, to answer the thread-starters question...No, nobody on this site uses these drugs. They are illegal you know.
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A little bit, about half a cup.
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I lied....The Raven uses them...here is a pic. We all know that he stuffs his underwear with socks...

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I did one cycle when I was 19 or so. Anivar, Winstrol, Deca and Test followed up with hcg post cycle.

Was alot more economical back in 1982... 6 week cycle + post cycle cost about $100. You could go into Eckerds and buy your needles for .20 a needle.

Hell, it worked, I gained about 30 lbs in those 6 weeks and added well over 100 lbs to my squat.

But I think the greatest effect I got from taking the juice was recovery. I could squat almost everyday and be fully recovered for the next day. I'm talking 10-15 sets of squats here getting upwards to 500lbs.

Now that I'm getting older and I'm done having kids I'm considering using them again under Doctor's care to keep my muscle not to build the muscle.

But, I really don't see the draw for someone who is "average" and not doing it because they are at the high-levels of bodybuilding or athletics. Risk vs. reward just isn't there.

It's like when I'm at a triathlon and I see one of my age group competitors pulling up to the transition area with a $8,000 Quintana Roo Tri bike. Sorry, it ain't gonna help you. An $8K tri bike may help a pro who needs to shave 30 seconds off his bike time (and a boost in finish prize money) but it isn't going to do jack shit for a middle of the pack age grouper. They don't have the training to take advantage of it.

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I lied....The Raven uses them...here is a pic. We all know that he stuffs his underwear with socks...

Is this for real. WTF would anyone want to look like that??? Don't mean to hi-jack, but that is just rediculous.
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Is this for real. WTF would anyone want to look like that??? Don't mean to hi-jack, but that is just rediculous.
thats The raven. and hes ALL natural!

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thats The raven. and hes ALL natural!
What ever that is keep it away from me, I don't want to catch something. Do people actually like this look.
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What ever that is keep it away from me, I don't want to catch something. Do people actually like this look.
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