The retail store TV's... Whats with the low brightness? - DFWstangs Forums
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-09-2008, 04:04 AM Thread Starter
Canada is welcome here.
 
justinsn95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ft worth
Posts: 4,039
The retail store TV's... Whats with the low brightness?

Seems like every time i go looking around at all the TV's at say Circuit City or Best Buy or someplace, you got the TV's that just look like ass. They are dimmer, the picture is just shittier, you know the ones i mean. I am not up to speed on TV's but it seems to me the brightness level of these is the problem. Anyone know why some of
them look so dim? I am trying to figure out what the deal is so i can see if i want to order this 67" Samsung DLP or not. I know Samsung displays of any kind are usually winners, but after a recent trip to the local retail stores i am having doubts. Can anyone explain what i am observing here?

Ok here is a good example. What is the real difference between these two TV's? I have seen the ones claiming to have the LED backlight in person and they just look a hell of a lot better and brighter. So are they telling me that a damn LED light is 500 bucks?

TV #1, with LED http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=90937

TV #2 with no LED http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=HLS6767W

Quote:
Originally Posted by aksthem1 View Post
i think thedark1337 is a pretty cool guy. eh plays the game and doesnt afraid of anything


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillaxed View Post
- later on when i was about 16 i suddenly came to the realization that i had zero appeal to women and i said "i'm going to say i'm gay from now on"

Last edited by justinsn95; 05-09-2008 at 04:31 AM.
justinsn95 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-09-2008, 08:03 AM
Cummins > Powerstroke
 
8mpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: id rather be cummin than strokin
Posts: 19,068
the pictures probably look dim because the high amounts of light washing out your eye's perception of color and brightness.

2006 Dodge Ram Megacab Cummins
1969 Mustang Coupe
1969 Mustang Mach1
1969 Chevy C10
1966 Mustang Coupe
8mpg is offline  
post #3 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-09-2008, 08:42 AM
EW
Procrastination Racing
 
EW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Bedford, TX
Posts: 9,226
My Sony has a selectable bulb power (I don't know exactly what it is called) that lets you lower the output. Maybe those TV's do as well?
After doing research on the interweb, I was dead set on DLP. After seeing the SXRD picture against the DLP, there was no contest. DLP looked like dookie in the store. There are many variables in the store like source, signal level, etc but I'm happy.
EW is offline  
 
post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-09-2008, 09:16 AM
Lifer
 
Grant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 9,204
everyone knows the brighter the picture, the better......................
Grant is offline  
post #5 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-09-2008, 09:53 AM
Cummins > Powerstroke
 
8mpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: id rather be cummin than strokin
Posts: 19,068
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant
everyone knows the brighter the picture, the better......................
porn?

2006 Dodge Ram Megacab Cummins
1969 Mustang Coupe
1969 Mustang Mach1
1969 Chevy C10
1966 Mustang Coupe
8mpg is offline  
post #6 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-09-2008, 01:52 PM
B-WIZ
 
KOZMO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: There's a huge chance I've been registered longer than you.
Posts: 1,807
Its because you are looking at a projection TV and probably at an off center axis viewing angle.

Most Projection TVs are displayed on stands or on top of shelves or just plain not at eye level. Try stepping back or crouching down.

If you want a brighter TV get an LCD.




DFWSTANGS: just a jump-the-gun, criticize and judge-all-before-you-know-shit, racists, extremist, whats-a-mustang?, internet forum.
KOZMO is offline  
post #7 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-09-2008, 04:37 PM Thread Starter
Canada is welcome here.
 
justinsn95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ft worth
Posts: 4,039
Maybe I should ask: In yall's opinion, whats the best bang for the buck TV? (very large screen)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aksthem1 View Post
i think thedark1337 is a pretty cool guy. eh plays the game and doesnt afraid of anything


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillaxed View Post
- later on when i was about 16 i suddenly came to the realization that i had zero appeal to women and i said "i'm going to say i'm gay from now on"
justinsn95 is offline  
post #8 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-09-2008, 04:53 PM
mannish boy
 
Cooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: drunk on diesel
Posts: 31,758
it's probably because the store turned down the brightness on the older models to make the newer, more expensive models look a lot better
Cooter is offline  
post #9 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-09-2008, 10:00 PM
Texas Rangers #1
 
Kenny_Stang's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Funky Town
Posts: 10,592
So many reasons, first allot of TV's come from the factory with really bad settings, especially black level and brightness. Second, the quality of input that the TV is receiving, HDMI will always look better than composite/component/s-video. A brightly lit store is a bad place to judge the quality of a TV's picture. I recommended signing up on avsforum.com and reading reviews on the TV's you are interested in.

.
Kenny_Stang is offline  
post #10 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-10-2008, 02:03 PM Thread Starter
Canada is welcome here.
 
justinsn95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ft worth
Posts: 4,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooter
it's probably because the store turned down the brightness on the older models to make the newer, more expensive models look a lot better
Yeah i have heard they pull a lot of shady gimmicks at the retail stores.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aksthem1 View Post
i think thedark1337 is a pretty cool guy. eh plays the game and doesnt afraid of anything


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillaxed View Post
- later on when i was about 16 i suddenly came to the realization that i had zero appeal to women and i said "i'm going to say i'm gay from now on"
justinsn95 is offline  
post #11 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-10-2008, 02:16 PM
I gots famous friends
 
93LXHORSE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 9,206
Bang for the buck, DLP is going to give you the biggest picture. I am very happy with my Samsung 54" DLP..

LED back light is more expensive because it's better technology. Standard LCD sets have a non adjustable light source behind the LCD panel. The crystals activate to block out a certain portion of the light per pixel to create the picture. Sometimes, during a very dark scene, the liquid crystals are trying to block out ALL of the light, but do not do a very good job of it - so, here comes an adjustable light source in the form of LED arrays to dim themselves when need be, so that the liquid crystals don't have to do all the work themselves - the result is a much better black level, something that an LCD TV typically suffers from.
93LXHORSE is offline  
post #12 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-10-2008, 09:47 PM Thread Starter
Canada is welcome here.
 
justinsn95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ft worth
Posts: 4,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by 93LXHORSE
Bang for the buck, DLP is going to give you the biggest picture. I am very happy with my Samsung 54" DLP..

LED back light is more expensive because it's better technology. Standard LCD sets have a non adjustable light source behind the LCD panel. The crystals activate to block out a certain portion of the light per pixel to create the picture. Sometimes, during a very dark scene, the liquid crystals are trying to block out ALL of the light, but do not do a very good job of it - so, here comes an adjustable light source in the form of LED arrays to dim themselves when need be, so that the liquid crystals don't have to do all the work themselves - the result is a much better black level, something that an LCD TV typically suffers from.
So in terms of actual picture quality (other than a little bit better blacks) you think its the same? (as the non-LED that it replaced) Cause you can get an '07 refurbished model for like $1500 bucks. Thats like a thousand bucks cheaper lol. Also, are you saying that whatever brightness level the TV comes with, thats what it stuck at? Sorry if thats a dumb question but im a TV newbie.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aksthem1 View Post
i think thedark1337 is a pretty cool guy. eh plays the game and doesnt afraid of anything


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillaxed View Post
- later on when i was about 16 i suddenly came to the realization that i had zero appeal to women and i said "i'm going to say i'm gay from now on"
justinsn95 is offline  
post #13 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-11-2008, 09:14 PM
tear'n asphalt in the 68'
 
PDRed302's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Keller TX.
Posts: 1,489
Quote:
Originally Posted by justinsn95
Maybe I should ask: In yall's opinion, whats the best bang for the buck TV? (very large screen)
DLP

PDRed302 is offline  
post #14 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-11-2008, 09:59 PM
Cummins > Powerstroke
 
8mpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: id rather be cummin than strokin
Posts: 19,068
Quote:
Originally Posted by justinsn95
So in terms of actual picture quality (other than a little bit better blacks) you think its the same? (as the non-LED that it replaced) Cause you can get an '07 refurbished model for like $1500 bucks. Thats like a thousand bucks cheaper lol. Also, are you saying that whatever brightness level the TV comes with, thats what it stuck at? Sorry if thats a dumb question but im a TV newbie.
how big of a TV are you trying to get? For $1500 you can get a nice 50" plasma

2006 Dodge Ram Megacab Cummins
1969 Mustang Coupe
1969 Mustang Mach1
1969 Chevy C10
1966 Mustang Coupe
8mpg is offline  
post #15 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-12-2008, 01:48 AM Thread Starter
Canada is welcome here.
 
justinsn95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ft worth
Posts: 4,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by 8mpg
how big of a TV are you trying to get? For $1500 you can get a nice 50" plasma
I think that 67" is probly big enough. That may sound funny as that size is huge but in my house the couch pretty much has to sit pretty far away from the TV. I dont really like those pull down screens with some projector thing though. I heard they are uber expensive anyway.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aksthem1 View Post
i think thedark1337 is a pretty cool guy. eh plays the game and doesnt afraid of anything


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillaxed View Post
- later on when i was about 16 i suddenly came to the realization that i had zero appeal to women and i said "i'm going to say i'm gay from now on"
justinsn95 is offline  
post #16 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-12-2008, 02:12 AM
PVC Racing
 
musclestang89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: DFW
Posts: 9,779
i actually just got the 61 DLP series. For the price you just can't beat it. On the LED the bulbs are suppose to last longer is what they are saying. But I wanted to save alittle so I didn't get it.

In a few months I plan on buying a few bulbs just to make sure in the future I have some. Cause I figure in a few years rear projection TV's will be gone. I heard Sony has already pulled all there rear projections off the shelfs. So its just a matter of time my thinking. I better buy some so in a few years I don't have a big ass paper weight.


Oh and I'm very pleased with my purchase. I just can't wait to move it into the living room. Right now I have it in a room and its kinda of big in there

"Less talkie talkie more ping pong"
musclestang89 is offline  
post #17 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-12-2008, 07:22 AM
dead
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 14,611
Quote:
Originally Posted by justinsn95
Maybe I should ask: In yall's opinion, whats the best bang for the buck TV? (very large screen)

projector.
momo stallion is offline  
post #18 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-12-2008, 12:48 PM Thread Starter
Canada is welcome here.
 
justinsn95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ft worth
Posts: 4,039
Quote:
Originally Posted by musclestang89
i actually just got the 61 DLP series. For the price you just can't beat it. On the LED the bulbs are suppose to last longer is what they are saying. But I wanted to save alittle so I didn't get it.

In a few months I plan on buying a few bulbs just to make sure in the future I have some. Cause I figure in a few years rear projection TV's will be gone. I heard Sony has already pulled all there rear projections off the shelfs. So its just a matter of time my thinking. I better buy some so in a few years I don't have a big ass paper weight.


Oh and I'm very pleased with my purchase. I just can't wait to move it into the living room. Right now I have it in a room and its kinda of big in there
Like no more DLP's? that would suck they are the best imo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aksthem1 View Post
i think thedark1337 is a pretty cool guy. eh plays the game and doesnt afraid of anything


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillaxed View Post
- later on when i was about 16 i suddenly came to the realization that i had zero appeal to women and i said "i'm going to say i'm gay from now on"
justinsn95 is offline  
post #19 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-12-2008, 07:30 PM
Lifer
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,391
I love my Mitsubishi 65" DLP

FUCK Canada
ram57ta is offline  
post #20 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-14-2008, 04:57 PM Thread Starter
Canada is welcome here.
 
justinsn95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ft worth
Posts: 4,039
man i went to that AV science forum and it's so huge i cant even get a word in edgewise. Is there another smaller one somewhere that would discuss DLP's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by aksthem1 View Post
i think thedark1337 is a pretty cool guy. eh plays the game and doesnt afraid of anything


Quote:
Originally Posted by Chillaxed View Post
- later on when i was about 16 i suddenly came to the realization that i had zero appeal to women and i said "i'm going to say i'm gay from now on"
justinsn95 is offline  
post #21 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-14-2008, 05:00 PM
Trailer Park Royalty
 
whitetrash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: TX
Posts: 3,047
Quote:
Originally Posted by justinsn95
I think that 67" is probly big enough. That may sound funny as that size is huge but in my house the couch pretty much has to sit pretty far away from the TV. I dont really like those pull down screens with some projector thing though. I heard they are uber expensive anyway.
nah i have a 62" in my bedroom


03 cobra 450/443--2.93 upper, JLT CAI, o/r x, dumped flows, SRA w/3.73s
94 Z71-dd
whitetrash is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the DFWstangs Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome