Seems like every time i go looking around at all the TV's at say Circuit City or Best Buy or someplace, you got the TV's that just look like ass. They are dimmer, the picture is just shittier, you know the ones i mean. I am not up to speed on TV's but it seems to me the brightness level of these is the problem. Anyone know why some of
them look so dim? I am trying to figure out what the deal is so i can see if i want to order this 67" Samsung DLP or not. I know Samsung displays of any kind are usually winners, but after a recent trip to the local retail stores i am having doubts. Can anyone explain what i am observing here?

Ok here is a good example. What is the real difference between these two TV's? I have seen the ones claiming to have the LED backlight in person and they just look a hell of a lot better and brighter. So are they telling me that a damn LED light is 500 bucks?

TV #1, with LED http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=90937

TV #2 with no LED http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=HLS6767W

the pictures probably look dim because the high amounts of light washing out your eye's perception of color and brightness.

My Sony has a selectable bulb power (I don't know exactly what it is called) that lets you lower the output. Maybe those TV's do as well?
After doing research on the interweb, I was dead set on DLP. After seeing the SXRD picture against the DLP, there was no contest. DLP looked like dookie in the store. There are many variables in the store like source, signal level, etc but I'm happy.

everyone knows the brighter the picture, the better......................

porn?

Its because you are looking at a projection TV and probably at an off center axis viewing angle.

Most Projection TVs are displayed on stands or on top of shelves or just plain not at eye level. Try stepping back or crouching down.

If you want a brighter TV get an LCD.

Maybe I should ask: In yall's opinion, whats the best bang for the buck TV? (very large screen)

it's probably because the store turned down the brightness on the older models to make the newer, more expensive models look a lot better

So many reasons, first allot of TV's come from the factory with really bad settings, especially black level and brightness. Second, the quality of input that the TV is receiving, HDMI will always look better than composite/component/s-video. A brightly lit store is a bad place to judge the quality of a TV's picture. I recommended signing up on avsforum.com and reading reviews on the TV's you are interested in.

Yeah i have heard they pull a lot of shady gimmicks at the retail stores.

Bang for the buck, DLP is going to give you the biggest picture. I am very happy with my Samsung 54" DLP..

LED back light is more expensive because it's better technology. Standard LCD sets have a non adjustable light source behind the LCD panel. The crystals activate to block out a certain portion of the light per pixel to create the picture. Sometimes, during a very dark scene, the liquid crystals are trying to block out ALL of the light, but do not do a very good job of it - so, here comes an adjustable light source in the form of LED arrays to dim themselves when need be, so that the liquid crystals don't have to do all the work themselves - the result is a much better black level, something that an LCD TV typically suffers from.

So in terms of actual picture quality (other than a little bit better blacks) you think its the same? (as the non-LED that it replaced) Cause you can get an '07 refurbished model for like $1500 bucks. Thats like a thousand bucks cheaper lol. Also, are you saying that whatever brightness level the TV comes with, thats what it stuck at? Sorry if thats a dumb question but im a TV newbie.

DLP

how big of a TV are you trying to get? For $1500 you can get a nice 50" plasma

I think that 67" is probly big enough. That may sound funny as that size is huge but in my house the couch pretty much has to sit pretty far away from the TV. I dont really like those pull down screens with some projector thing though. I heard they are uber expensive anyway.

i actually just got the 61 DLP series. For the price you just can't beat it. On the LED the bulbs are suppose to last longer is what they are saying. But I wanted to save alittle so I didn't get it.

In a few months I plan on buying a few bulbs just to make sure in the future I have some. Cause I figure in a few years rear projection TV's will be gone. I heard Sony has already pulled all there rear projections off the shelfs. So its just a matter of time my thinking. I better buy some so in a few years I don't have a big ass paper weight.


Oh and I'm very pleased with my purchase. I just can't wait to move it into the living room. Right now I have it in a room and its kinda of big in there

projector.

Like no more DLP's? that would suck they are the best imo.

I love my Mitsubishi 65" DLP

man i went to that AV science forum and it's so huge i cant even get a word in edgewise. Is there another smaller one somewhere that would discuss DLP's?

nah i have a 62" in my bedroom