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Holy crap! I know what subs I will be buying for my next project!

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Two 13TW5-4's here I come!

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What are you going to put them in?

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Wow, those would be perfect for my Vert. Wonder how much their gonna run though $$$

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Justin, I'd be sure and go listen to some. I haven't heard these exact ones, but I was in a space-limited application in my last vehicle and bought some Pioneer Shallow mount subs. They enabled me to build a much smaller enclosure, however once I changed vehicles, and built a new enclosure w/ more conventional subs, I realized how weak the shallow mounted ones sounded. These may be an improvement on Pioneer's design (obviously a better manufacturer) but I'd check 'em out in person first before buying.....
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I've heard that the Pioneer thin subs don't sound good but the Kenwoods do. Won't matter when the JL's come out.
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I've heard that the Pioneer thin subs don't sound good but the Kenwoods do. Won't matter when the JL's come out.
the pioneers sound like trash... they sound OKAY if you make the box EXACTLY to spec.

im sure JL wouldnt throw out some trash sub under their name... just make sure to give them a listen.

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These subs are a compromise intended for a specific purpose. If what you require is not exactly what these subs were designed for, then you would probably be much better off with a different sub.

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interesting... I saw some Boston G5's that were inverted in the box with passive radiators and the box was tiny and they rocked like crazy. I was impressed I think the box was .5 for both 10" subs. If Idid not know any better I would have thought they were W7's
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G5 woofers work in small airspace to begin with and the passive radiator gives you ported output in a sealed size.
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i wish i understood more about passive radiators... thats some cool shit if you ask me...

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i wish i understood more about passive radiators... thats some cool shit if you ask me...
It's cone area. It is more cone moving with the same amount of power, so you get more output. Really, it is very similar to a ported enclosure in theory. In a ported box, the additional output is from the sound waves coming off the back of the cone. The purpose of the port is to reverse the phase back of the rear waves back into phase with the front waves and is done with port volume and length. With a passive radiator, instead of adjusting the port, the mass of the radiator is adjustable to control its response.

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It's cone area. It is more cone moving with the same amount of power, so you get more output. Really, it is very similar to a ported enclosure in theory. In a ported box, the additional output is from the sound waves coming off the back of the cone. The purpose of the port is to reverse the phase back of the rear waves back into phase with the front waves and is done with port volume and length. With a passive radiator, instead of adjusting the port, the mass of the radiator is adjustable to control its response.
so is the frequency dependent on surface area and mass of the radiator? is placement significant?

it there more cutoff on the PR as compared to a port? why arent PRs used more often?

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so is the frequency dependent on surface area and mass of the radiator? is placement significant?

it there more cutoff on the PR as compared to a port? why arent PRs used more often?

sorry for totally jacking this thread... im done after this!
Almost nobody makes radiators designed for car audio. The rolloff of the PR is a bit steeper than a similar ported box, and they also have some issues at whatever the resonant frequency of the radiator is.

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T5 woofers in stock.
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I will seriously be checking those out when I get my Grand National back together. I have been for several years trying to figure out how I wanted to proceed with building a high quality sub enclosure to fit on the shelf behind the back seat without eating up the entire trunk. Those just might work.

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T5 woofers in stock.

any sound tests yet
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T5 woofers in stock.

How much are they running? $$$

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$549 retail
Very heavy woofer. I have not hooked them up yet. Come buy some and we'll hook them up beej.
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Can I install 10 of these in my headliner?
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Yes, as long as each one has 0.80cu ft sealed.
You would be proud Jared. Roof in F150 covered in Xtreme. Dynaliner going on in a minute.
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Yes, as long as each one has 0.80cu ft sealed.
Actually, subs firing down from above would be kinda wicked. Seeing as how that is a huge, flat, unobstructed surface, I might be on to something! Haha! Where would I put my fat head?

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You would be proud Jared. Roof in F150 covered in Xtreme. Dynaliner going on in a minute.
NICE! Not just the roof though, right? Did you already do the rest? Is the Dynaliner going over the Xtreme, or is that for under the hood? Are you going to put in something gnarly or what?

Man, if I had your job, I'd never make it out the door with my paycheck.
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NICE! Not just the roof though, right? Did you already do the rest? Is the Dynaliner going over the Xtreme, or is that for under the hood? Are you going to put in something gnarly or what?

Man, if I had your job, I'd never make it out the door with my paycheck.
I have not done the rest of the truck yet but since the headliner was out for PDR, I had to do it. Xtreme goes on the metal then Dynaliner goes inbetween the Xtreme and the headliner.

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I have not done the rest of the truck yet but since the headliner was out for PDR, I had to do it. Xtreme goes on the metal then Dynaliner goes inbetween the Xtreme and the headliner.

Very nice. Soooooo, are you going to be putting a killer syetm in that thing or what?
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Actually, subs firing down from above would be kinda wicked.
Probably sound like butt, not as loud as you would think.

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Probably sound like butt, not as loud as you would think.

I know. You don't really think I would do that, do you?

I knew a dude back in high school whose parents ran an upholstery business. He had a van with a crazy plush interior. There were speakers everywhere, including 10" subs mounted into the back of the front seats. It was retarded.
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Very nice. Soooooo, are you going to be putting a killer syetm in that thing or what?
I already have a 9887, HD, Sirius, 450/4v2 and A1400. I think I'm going to do ZR570 front, C5 570 rear (they don't make coax ZR) and 2-10W3v3 unless I think I can get the T5 in there. If I can do the T5, I'll change bass amp for sure. Plus, the rest of the entire truck will be Dynamatted. Just doing the roof made a huge difference. Driving over a bumpy road used to make a bong-bong-bong sound that I thought was the back wall or bed. That sound is almost all gone now just by doing the roof. It took 6.2 sheets of Dynamat Xtreme and 2 sheets of Dynaliner 11105.
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I already have a 9887, HD, Sirius, 450/4v2 and A1400. I think I'm going to do ZR570 front, C5 570 rear (they don't make coax ZR) and 2-10W3v3 unless I think I can get the T5 in there. If I can do the T5, I'll change bass amp for sure. Plus, the rest of the entire truck will be Dynamatted. Just doing the roof made a huge difference. Driving over a bumpy road used to make a bong-bong-bong sound that I thought was the back wall or bed. That sound is almost all gone now just by doing the roof. It took 6.2 sheets of Dynamat Xtreme and 2 sheets of Dynaliner 11105.

Nice. I'm anxious to hear those ZRs.
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I know. You don't really think I would do that, do you?

I knew a dude back in high school whose parents ran an upholstery business. He had a van with a crazy plush interior. There were speakers everywhere, including 10" subs mounted into the back of the front seats. It was retarded.
Nope. You and I need the headroom as much as anyone.

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