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Wall mount my new flat panel

Got a Vizio 42" LCD for Christmas. I need to mount it on the wall, which I've never done before. Did a little googling, and now I'm kind of confused. Wall mounts seem to be a 3rd party kind of thing, and I couldn't even find one that is made by, or at least a Vizio brand. All I need is for it to be capable of mounting flat, and at a slight down-angle, and not drop my fuckin tv on the floor, lol.

Is a universal ok?
Where's the best (cheapest?) place to go pick one up?

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so u dont wanna drop it but u want the cheapest one? i ordered mine off ebay.... but i wish i spent a little more and got the kind that swivells
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so u dont wanna drop it but u want the cheapest one? i ordered mine off ebay.... but i wish i spent a little more and got the kind that swivells

No, I want the cheapest one that won't drop it.

No swiveling required here.

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Peerless mounts are some of the best out there - we use them in commercial applications all the time. They are not the cheapest but if installed correctly your TV is not going to fall.
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http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Get all of you cables there also - you will not beat thier price for good stuff!
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You know I love you man, but you are a moron.
Do you know how many of those fucking things I see a week? Did it not occur to you to ask, oh I dunno, the guy with the fucking job in it??????? MORON!!!!!!!!!!

Sofaking's and blackjack's will both work great.
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You know I love you man, but you are a moron.
Do you know how many of those fucking things I see a week? Did it not occur to you to ask, oh I dunno, the guy with the fucking job in it??????? MORON!!!!!!!!!!

Sofaking's and blackjack's will both work great.
thanks... i just got another tv so if doesnt fall in month or so let me know so i can pick one up
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thanks... i just got another tv so if doesnt fall in month or so let me know so i can pick one up
I don't sell them. I am a cable guy and have installed a few.
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Did it not occur to you to ask, oh I dunno, the guy with the fucking job in it???????

Honestly?


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I have used the one that Jimmy used, the most. They are easy and straighforward.

We need to check out Walmart's prices on them.
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Cool deal, well I have one on the way, and we will have it for Saturday's media room extravaganza. Good times.

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Cool deal, well I have one on the way, and we will have it for Saturday's media room extravaganza. Good times.
Yeehaw. I will make sure and bring all my tools and shit, this time.
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Get all of you cables there also - you will not beat thier price for good stuff!
I bought this and it's great. Cheapest tilting mount you can buy that's still great quality.

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hanging a tv is usually intimidating for the first time..but its simple. With an LCD you wont even need to stud the thing..just a few toggles in the sheetrock and you will be fine.

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hanging a tv is usually intimidating for the first time..but its simple. With an LCD you wont even need to stud the thing..just a few toggles in the sheetrock and you will be fine.

I'll post up pics and stuff after the install, but this is gonna be a bad mofo. I'm building a whole wall that bumps out. It'll have the TV mounted, 3 front speakers recessed into it, and all the components will be set back and flush with the wall surface. Pimpy fo sho.

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I'll post up pics and stuff after the install, but this is gonna be a bad mofo. I'm building a whole wall that bumps out. It'll have the TV mounted, 3 front speakers recessed into it, and all the components will be set back and flush with the wall surface. Pimpy fo sho.
make sure you do...what room is it going in?? the one with the playstation, or the living room?

Just use some regular ass 3/16" toggle bolts. You could use 1/4" if you want. When I worked at Taurus, we used 1/4" snap toggles to mount 60" plasmas... There was a dual 50" setup that was hung in drywall only, no studs They work great.

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www.monoprice.com - $37 shipped to my door. My 40" Samsung looks great hanging from it and it feels very solid/secure. It's the slim-mount one.
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make sure you do...what room is it going in?? the one with the playstation, or the living room?

Just use some regular ass 3/16" toggle bolts. You could use 1/4" if you want. When I worked at Taurus, we used 1/4" snap toggles to mount 60" plasmas... There was a dual 50" setup that was hung in drywall only, no studs They work great.
Hey Tim, find and post a pic of the toggle bolts you are referring to. We always used big ass wall anchors.
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Sorry I didn't see this earlier, guys. Did you get it mounted yet?

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Hey Tim, find and post a pic of the toggle bolts you are referring to. We always used big ass wall anchors.
These things rock... they are like a toggle bolt but they do not fall into the wall if you take the bolt out.


you slide the white tip, and it makes the metal bracket lay flat...slide it into the hole, slide the white end so they 2 pieces are even (that makes the toggle become vertical in the wall), then like a zip tie, you slide the square white piece to the wall. It doesnt fall in the wall and will hold something like 300lbs per toggle.

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Got it all worked out. It ended up being about as simple as could be as far as the mount goes.

Building the wall was a lot more complicated and work intensive, but it turned out great. Just need to get it covered and finished out...





Thanks to Oldman&Moody, Fitzwell and Jester for their help on this one!

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speakers are WAAAAAY too high. Looks like good work though
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looks good Blake.. I was wondering what was taking so long to hang a TV

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speakers are WAAAAAY too high. Looks like good work though
Yeah, I figured they should be lower after it was finished, but I'm ok with it. I test drove it and it sounds fuckin' great, so I'm going to leave it as-is.

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Yeah, I figured they should be lower after it was finished, but I'm ok with it. I test drove it and it sounds fuckin' great, so I'm going to leave it as-is.
It will be fine. Nice work.
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Lookin good, man!
yeah, the speakers are a bit high, but still look great........and with the way your ceiling is, the speaker placement is not gonna matter. That shit is gonna go right to you.
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The speakers really do matter where you put them, and yours are way too high. At the very least tilt them to the listening area. The toggles that are shown, are really good. We use them, they are Hilti Togglers. Same as used to mount this tv. Of course this big, you still need to grab a stud, but we use them constantly in residential and commercial. Each toggler good for 80lbs.


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dman...that setup looks great...but it really needs some new light switch plates

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Looks nice! Did you cover up the fireplace? Just know that it's VERY difficult to sell a house without a fireplace. I ended up mounting my Samsung over the fireplace, where I had a niche built, using the same bracket from Monoprice.

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dman...that setup looks great...but it really needs some new light switch plates
LOL...you are def. right about that one.....You know how it goes. I do this for a living, and seems like im the last one to get things done....I have got alot of the plates and stuff changed out, just havnt quite got to those yet..

what really sucks, is the camera makes it look like smudges on the black of the TV, and wife says i gotta clean and dust now. So i gotta do that now, cause if i dont, i know what i WONT be gettin!!
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Looks nice! Did you cover up the fireplace? Just know that it's VERY difficult to sell a house without a fireplace. I ended up mounting my Samsung over the fireplace, where I had a niche built, using the same bracket from Monoprice.
hey one thing for sure , if you sell your house, you will fail a FHA inspection if you have a gas fireplace. You have to terminate the gas line to the fireplace.
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The speakers really do matter where you put them, and yours are way too high. At the very least tilt them to the listening area.
Good call. I can set them up with a tilt, no problem.

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Looks nice! Did you cover up the fireplace? Just know that it's VERY difficult to sell a house without a fireplace. I ended up mounting my Samsung over the fireplace, where I had a niche built, using the same bracket from Monoprice.
Yup, but I took pics before building the wall, and I could demo the new wall with no adverse effect on the actual fireplace in about 10 minutes, so I'm not worried about it. That, and I just bought this house and don't plan on moving for a VERY long time.

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With the way Blakes ceiling is and his couch position, you will not notice a difference in the front speakers. Just not gonna happen......unless you were to put them on stands and have them right in your face. I do think a slight downward tilt would be nice, though. The amount of space between the speakers and his sitting area relative to the angle of the ceiling is going to throw the sound right in his face.
I would normally agree about speaker placement, but in this application, not going to matter...........especially with the center speaker at the perfect heighth.

Now, I could be wrong, but seeing as my degree is in this and I have been doing it for 10 years, I may know a little bit about what I am talking about.
After having built more than 20 headend systems in all of the A&M Colleges, Ned Lamont's home, etc, etc, etc, etc.
I am pretty sure Blake's 15' x 15' completely open room is not going to suffer.
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With the way Blakes ceiling is and his couch position, you will not notice a difference in the front speakers. Just not gonna happen......unless you were to put them on stands and have them right in your face. I do think a slight downward tilt would be nice, though. The amount of space between the speakers and his sitting area relative to the angle of the ceiling is going to throw the sound right in his face.
I would normally agree about speaker placement, but in this application, not going to matter...........especially with the center speaker at the perfect heighth.

Now, I could be wrong, but seeing as my degree is in this and I have been doing it for 10 years, I may know a little bit about what I am talking about.
After having built more than 20 headend systems in all of the A&M Colleges, Ned Lamont's home, etc, etc, etc, etc.
I am pretty sure Blake's 15' x 15' completely open room is not going to suffer.
LMAO
I disagree, but like I said over and over... what do I know. Keep on keepin' on.
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I disagree, but like I said over and over... what do I know. Keep on keepin' on.


Well, you and the wife make some nice ass cakes, and I know that I may disagree with you and her on how to make them, but y'all are the fucking experts with the portfolio to back it up and I can't make a cake, round!
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Well, you and the wife make some nice ass cakes, and I know that I may disagree with you and her on how to make them, but y'all are the fucking experts with the portfolio to back it up and I can't make a cake, round!
I do a/v for a living, I've installed my fair share of theaters


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the front R/L speakers in a 5.1 system are supposed to be placed at ear level (or as close to it as possible).
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the front R/L speakers in a 5.1 system are supposed to be placed at ear level (or as close to it as possible).
Yeah, ear level would be good for a flat ceiling room, but the acoustics in this room allow for a lot of wiggle room.
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Yeah, ear level would be good for a flat ceiling room, but the acoustics in this room allow for a lot of wiggle room.

Assuming the ceiling isn't flat, and slopes up from the front of the room to the back, I would suspect that mounting them higher would be worse.
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Assuming the ceiling isn't flat, and slopes up from the front of the room to the back, I would suspect that mounting them higher would be worse.
it actually slopes up and then back down so it will bounce right back to you.
ugh........feel like I am back in school in sound engineering.
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it actually slopes up and then back down so it will bounce right back to you.
ugh........feel like I am back in school in sound engineering.
So the sound will bounce back from behind the listener? Sorry man, you may have a degree, but that just doesn't make a whole bunch of sense. Just humor me.
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Hmmmmmmmmmm, 16+ years in the field, owner of a company specializing in custom AV for auto, commercial, and residential.......sit on that couch, crank it with speakers flat ass on the wall, then tilt....If you dont notice a hell of a difference, you might want to see one of them ear doctors, LOL.....Not gonna argue here, hell let the man put em how he wants, if i was installing, id turn the job down before doing it incorrectly.
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Hmmmmmmmmmm, 16+ years in the field, owner of a company specializing in custom AV for auto, commercial, and residential.......sit on that couch, crank it with speakers flat ass on the wall, then tilt....If you dont notice a hell of a difference, you might want to see one of them ear doctors, LOL.....Not gonna argue here, hell let the man put em how he wants, if i was installing, id turn the job down before doing it incorrectly.
Like was said before, a tilt would be a good idea, but this is not a real media room and the guy does not sit there and examine JFK assassination sounds as if his paycheck depends on it.............catch my drift?

Yes, the example of your room with the speakers mounted in the walls by the tv are the norm, without consideration for room design.

As long as you are not one of those ass monkeys that actually uses monster cables, then you are entitled to you opinion.
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Like was said before, a tilt would be a good idea, but this is not a real media room and the guy does not sit there and examine JFK assassination sounds as if his paycheck depends on it.............catch my drift?

Yes, the example of your room with the speakers mounted in the walls by the tv are the norm, without consideration for room design.

As long as you are not one of those ass monkeys that actually uses monster cables, then you are entitled to you opinion.
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