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Ok you electronics geeks...

So, we just ordered my Christmas present-a Sony 50" HD DLP . I am looking at HD DVD players or upconvert DVD players. We also got a surround system to go with it, so what things do I need to make sure are on the DVD player I get?

Any recommendations/suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Pics to come...man I can't wait for it to get here!!!!

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Man I tell ya I have no clue or advice to give ya.....but isn't this in the wrong forum??

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So, we just ordered my Christmas present-a Sony 50" HD DLP . I am looking at HD DVD players or upconvert DVD players. We also got a surround system to go with it, so what things do I need to make sure are on the DVD player I get?

Any recommendations/suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Pics to come...man I can't wait for it to get here!!!!

Is it a 1080P HD TV?
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Why not get a Blue Ray player?
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Is it a 1080P HD TV?
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Why not get a Blue Ray player?
Here's my dilemma.

I don't want to drop a lot of cash +$250.
We have a shit ton of movies and I don't want to have to rent Bluray. (IDK if you can play regular dvd's or not, but they are still expensive)
I don't know if the difference between an upconvert dvd player and a true HD dvd player is worth the price difference. I can get an upconvert for <$100 which, as far as I can tell, is going to be much better than our regular dvd player that we have now.

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toshiba hd-a2 HD DVD player was sold for $100 a few weeks back.

walmart is supposedly having a sale friday morning and may have the toshiba hd-3a for cheap... if not it will be attainable for low $100s soon.

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Here's my dilemma.

I don't want to drop a lot of cash +$250.
We have a shit ton of movies and I don't want to have to rent Bluray. (IDK if you can play regular dvd's or not, but they are still expensive)
I don't know if the difference between an upconvert dvd player and a true HD dvd player is worth the price difference. I can get an upconvert for <$100 which, as far as I can tell, is going to be much better than our regular dvd player that we have now.

Call Chris at Marvin Elctronics 817-927-5311 he can explain it all to you. HD-DVD is going out the door. Blue ray is the only way to go.
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Call Chris at Marvin Elctronics 817-927-5311 he can explain it all to you. HD-DVD is going out the door. Blue ray is the only way to go.
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Why should you care?
The short answer is: You don't want to buy an obsolete format. The two technologies don't work together, and it is very unlikely that both formats will survive. Both kinds of players will work with "old-fashioned" DVDs, but if you want a high-definition video experience on a disc, right now you will have to choose one or the other. The next PC you buy may come with the option to include either an HD DVD drive or a Blu-ray drive. And with standalone players selling for $500 to $1,000, guessing wrong could be expensive.

What is the difference?
Blu-ray has a capacity advantage, offering 25GB of storage on a single-sided disc and 50GB on a double-sided disc. HD DVD discs hold 15GB (single sided) or 30GB (double-sided). Although this would seem to give Blu-ray a significant advantage, 15GB is enough room—just barely—to fit a high-definition movie.

HD DVD players and drives are a lot cheaper than Blu-ray devices. Blu-ray players will cost between $1,000 and $1,500 at launch. Toshiba's first HD DVD player, the HD-A1, is being sold for just $500, and it has been available for more than two months.
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Call Chris at Marvin Elctronics 817-927-5311 he can explain it all to you. HD-DVD is going out the door. Blue ray is the only way to go.

hope chris at marvin electronics doesnt agree with that statement cause then i wouldnt listen to a thing he said.

while i support blu ray, "HD DVD aint going out the door".
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I remember when they said laserdisc was the new thing, but it didn't stick around too long.

Can you play regular DVD's on a Bluray player?

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I remember when they said laserdisc was the new thing, but it didn't stick around too long.

Can you play regular DVD's on a Bluray player?
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hope chris at marvin electronics doesnt agree with that statement cause then i wouldnt listen to a thing he said.

while i support blu ray, "HD DVD aint going out the door".


They wont both survive I imagine. Kinda like the old VHS versus Betamax.
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Is it a 1080P HD TV?
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They wont both survive I imagine. Kinda like the old VHS versus Betamax.

that part is true.

i'm not ready to buy a unit cause first off i dont know which will win and second, i dont watch enough movies to justify that large of a purchase.

blu ray is over priced but much better technology. hd-dvd scored a HUGE hit by dropping the prices to $100 on the hd-2a gaining a lot of market share.
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You know what would nicely compliment your Sony 50" HD DLP?

A Sony PS3.
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that part is true.



blu ray is over priced but much better technology. hd-dvd scored a HUGE hit by dropping the prices to $100 on the hd-2a gaining a lot of market share.
The blu ray players have dropped considerably in the past year but still, they are pretty dam high.. just buy a PS3
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that part is true.

i'm not ready to buy a unit cause first off i dont know which will win and second, i dont watch enough movies to justify that large of a purchase.

blu ray is over priced but much better technology. hd-dvd scored a HUGE hit by dropping the prices to $100 on the hd-2a gaining a lot of market share.

HD-DVD is having to pay off company's to sell there product. That's why I think it will not last. They were already out the door until they paid off Viacom and Dreamworks. But, that contract 2 years I believe wont last to long. I will see if I can find the story
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congrats on the DLP! best projection tv's IMO. yes, better than lcd and plasma.

i'm stuck on the high def dilemma, but like someone said, i'm not dropping $500+ to watch movies, i don't watch enough to justify that much $ on something i won't use everyday... or everyweek.

eventually though, i know i'll make the switch. but it'll be when it's a certainty on who will reign supreme on the HD level.

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So, we just ordered my Christmas present-a Sony 50" HD DLP . ...
Huh? Sony actually makes a DLP set? I thought Sony was all about their SXRD stuff.

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Huh? Sony actually makes a DLP set? I thought Sony was all about their SXRD stuff.

it probably is lcd or sxrd. most people dont know the difference.
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This is what we have. May be pricey to some, but we like it.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....&type=category


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When the 500lb gorilla of the industry (Blockbuster) has chosen to only back one format, you might as well guess that is the one that will end up staying around....Blockbuster only rents Bluray
blockbuster isn't a good measure... considering they've lost money, lost the war to netflix, and their stock as pretty much at an all-time low...

there is no clear winner right now... which is why buying an HD-DVD or blu-ray player is not a good idea... if you want a ps3 to play, buy a ps3 to play, but don't buy it for the blu-ray...

blu-ray and hd-dvd both look great, but until there is a winner, a lot of people are just buying expensive products and discs that might be nearly worthless soon..
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This is the one we bought.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Bravia-KD...880566&sr=1-28

Couldn't pass it up.

So, I guess my next question, since I don't want to drop a lot of money on something that may become obsolete is, does anyone have an upconverting dvd player? Is it worth the $50-$60 or should we just use the perfectly fine DVD player we have now?

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it probably is lcd or sxrd. most people dont know the difference.
It's 3lcd.. It's probably my fault she said DLP, I think I was referring to it as such since the idea is the same. Rear projection but shallow package (this one is less than 12" deep).

We are not techies by any means so are not versed in all of this. Hell, I wouldn't even have bought an HD TV but with the change coming up in '09 and that fact that you can't find any non-HD sets anymore made me pick this. The real goal was just to step up a but in sze from our current 36" tube, and get the wide screen.

I would love to just have an LCD or Plasma but cannot justify the cost to myself. Hell, two years ago I didn't even have cable, just rabbit ears. The TV I watched most was a little 13" in my office that had lines across the bottom. The "big" TV was only a 27". Leah bought the 36" before she moved in or I would be still watching that one.

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It's 3lcd.. It's probably my fault she said DLP, I think I was referring to it as such since the idea is the same. Rear projection but shallow package (this one is less than 12" deep).

We are not techies by any means so are not versed in all of this. Hell, I wouldn't even have bought an HD TV but with the change coming up in '09 and that fact that you can't find any non-HD sets anymore made me pick this. The real goal was just to step up a but in sze from our current 36" tube, and get the wide screen.

I would love to just have an LCD or Plasma but cannot justify the cost to myself. Hell, two years ago I didn't even have cable, just rabbit ears. The TV I watched most was a little 13" in my office that had lines across the bottom. The "big" TV was only a 27". Leah bought the 36" before she moved in or I would be still watching that one.
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Lol.. When it comes to TV I have always been very cheap.. That 13" I was talking about was purched in 1996 in the PX at Fort Carson. Up until '02 or so my "big" TV was a 19" I bought in Korea in '94. The only reason I bought the 13" is because when the Army moved me to CO from El Paso they broke it and I had to wait a couple months for them to fix it. Both the 13" and the 19" cost about $119 ea. The 27" I have was a open box / floor model I bought from Best Buy in '02.. I think I paid $200 for that one. So up until now I have spent all of about $450 on TV's in my lifetime and I am 32.

Hell, the TV I had in my bedroom when I was in highscool was a 13" black and white.. Lol.

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Get HD television programming through one of the dish providers. I like Dish Network, some like Direct TV. It's worth it, and cable sucks. If you have Dish or Direct now, upgrade equipment and get all the HD channels you can.

Personally, I wouldn't mess with a plain DVD or even an upconverting DVD player. I went with a PS3 and got a bunch of Blu-Ray movies free. It's kickass, and every now and then I can play a game on it if I want (I'm not much of a gamer). You can use it to play all of your older DVDs as well, and it will upconvert them. Make sure you connect this to your TV with an HDMI cable, unless you have an audio receiver with HDMI pass-through (doubtful). I'd still run an optical cable from both the satellite box and the PS3 to your audio receiver to get surround sound, and just turn the TV's speakers off completely.

Your best case scenario would be to have an audio receiver that has HDMI inputs and outputs and will allow you to run HDMI cables from your satellite receiver and your PS3 to the audio receiver, and then one HDMI cable from there to your TV. This will net you the best picture and sound and be the simplest to install, and also make switching from one source to another a breeze.

Anyway, my advice would be to go with a PS3. It's $400 well spent, and if for some reason Blu-Ray loses out, you'll still have a cool game system and will be able to play all of your old DVDs.
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so what i got from reading this whole thread (watching some knowledgeable people argue back and forth) is to NOT get a hd dvd or a blu ray disk....

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Some of you guys really have your facts wrong.

While it is true that there are advantages to both, Toshiba won my vote solely based on the up conversion capabilities of the unit. I can pop in a SD DVD in my HD DVD player, and it looks just as good as regular HDTV. And HD disks look absolutely incredible!
Just to give you some insight on Blu Ray, when this war launched a couple of years ago, everyone kept saying how much better Blu Ray looked over HD DVD. So I went up to best buy to check them out. Yep Blu Ray looked incredible over HD! I was amazed. Then I started looking at it a little more closely, followed the wires from the TV and the image they were advertising as Blu Ray was coming from a PC! Yep, they were cheating on the display! When I approached the sales man, and asked him to hook up the actual player, he advised me that they were told NOT to hook up the actual Blu Ray player. Think they were trying to hide something?

Yes, Blu Ray did initially outsell Toshiba during the launch, but take a look at the stats that show how many Blu Ray players were returned in the first couple of years. HD DVD is still cheaper than Blu Ray(Movies and players). Blockbuster is stocking Blu Ray, but Walmart is not selling Blu Ray, only HD DVD. Who do you think will have a larger impack between those two?


I am extremely busy right now, but when I have more time I will attach links to show that more companies are jumping ship on Blu Ray, and on board with HD DVD. While this isn't a sure sign, it's enough to get my money.

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Some of you guys really have your facts wrong.

While it is true that there are advantages to both, Toshiba won my vote solely based on the up conversion capabilities of the unit. I can pop in a SD DVD in my HD DVD player, and it looks just as good as regular HDTV. And HD disks look absolutely incredible!
Why would that sway you over Blu-Ray? My PS3 does the same thing.
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i agree with j-lo.

any upconverting dvd player does the same thing and i think every bluray and hd-dvd player does upconverting.
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We are not techies by any means so are not versed in all of this. Hell, I wouldn't even have bought an HD TV but with the change coming up in '09 and that fact that you can't find any non-HD sets anymore made me pick this. The real goal was just to step up a but in sze from our current 36" tube, and get the wide screen.

The change in 09' is from analog to digital and has nothing to do with HD.
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Lol.. When it comes to TV I have always been very cheap.. That 13" I was talking about was purched in 1996 in the PX at Fort Carson. Up until '02 or so my "big" TV was a 19" I bought in Korea in '94. The only reason I bought the 13" is because when the Army moved me to CO from El Paso they broke it and I had to wait a couple months for them to fix it. Both the 13" and the 19" cost about $119 ea. The 27" I have was a open box / floor model I bought from Best Buy in '02.. I think I paid $200 for that one. So up until now I have spent all of about $450 on TV's in my lifetime and I am 32.

Hell, the TV I had in my bedroom when I was in highscool was a 13" black and white.. Lol.
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i agree with j-lo.

any upconverting dvd player does the same thing and i think every bluray and hd-dvd player does upconverting.


But all up convertering DVD players are not the same
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HD/BluRay DVD players are now in their 3rd generation, right? They will get cheaper and better with time. What were the 1st gen units, just under a grand?

The format wars will continue to muddy the water thru another holiday season; be patient and buy after the format war has settled. You'll get a better designed unit, probably at a cheaper price, and a format thats going to be around for awhile.

If you have to buy something, buy a cheap upconverting player so you can enjoy some kick ass 1080i viewing until then.

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But all up convertering DVD players are not the same

neither are the chipsets that deinterlace video on televisions. : ]

its sony so i trust they do a good job.
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I like Dish Network, some like Direct TV. It's worth it, and cable sucks.


How so? My FIOS doesn't go out when it rains, sleets, or even when the wind blows. I have yet to lose a signal, or get a scrambled signal. That shit happens ALL the time with Satellite. We used to have DirecTV when I lived at home. Haley's parents have always had Dish. My parents, as well as hers got sick of the shit and upgraded to FIOS. Neither have been more happy.



While TWC/Comcast DOES suck, all cable doesn't.
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The change in 09' is from analog to digital and has nothing to do with HD.
You see.. I told you I didn't know WTF I was talking about.

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How so? My FIOS doesn't go out when it rains, sleets, or even when the wind blows. I have yet to lose a signal, or get a scrambled signal. That shit happens ALL the time with Satellite. We used to have DirecTV when I lived at home. Haley's parents have always had Dish. My parents, as well as hers got sick of the shit and upgraded to FIOS. Neither have been more happy.



While TWC/Comcast DOES suck, all cable doesn't.
He may not have access to FIOS, I know I don't and we live only about a mile or so apart. He is probably bashing traditional (or even "Digital") cable.

We have dish, BTW.. When the set comes I will be calling them to get upgraded to HD DVRs.

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HD/BluRay DVD players are now in their 3rd generation, right? They will get cheaper and better with time. What were the 1st gen units, just under a grand?

The format wars will continue to muddy the water thru another holiday season; be patient and buy after the format war has settled. You'll get a better designed unit, probably at a cheaper price, and a format thats going to be around for awhile.

If you have to buy something, buy a cheap upconverting player so you can enjoy some kick ass 1080i viewing until then.


Follow that advice and you'll be without for another 2-3 years.

I've had my HD DVD player for almost 2 years now. I paid $499 for it. Yes that is a lot, and it is a 1st generation player(since then they've gone down considerably in price). If you wait another 2-3 years for this format war to end, I will of had my HD DVD player for 4-5 years, enjoying the bliss of a perfect picture, while you guys are waiting around for something that is a long ways from happening.
HD DVD players are down to record lows right now. You can pick one up for under $200. You gonna wait another 2 years to save $50?


Another FYI, the porn industry is going HD DVD
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Follow that advice and you'll be without for another 2-3 years.

I've had my HD DVD player for almost 2 years now. I paid $499 for it. Yes that is a lot, and it is a 1st generation player(since then they've gone down considerably in price). If you wait another 2-3 years for this format war to end, I will of had my HD DVD player for 4-5 years, enjoying the bliss of a perfect picture, while you guys are waiting around for something that is a long ways from happening.
HD DVD players are down to record lows right now. You can pick one up for under $200. You gonna wait another 2 years to save $50?


Another FYI, the porn industry is going HD DVD
We can get an upconvert for < $100.. We will probably either buy one of those or pull the trigger on the PS3 (for the game with the added bonus of Blue Ray).. IDK though.

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Another FYI, the porn industry is going HD DVD
that alone gets my money...

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How so? My FIOS doesn't go out when it rains, sleets, or even when the wind blows. I have yet to lose a signal, or get a scrambled signal. That shit happens ALL the time with Satellite. We used to have DirecTV when I lived at home. Haley's parents have always had Dish. My parents, as well as hers got sick of the shit and upgraded to FIOS. Neither have been more happy.



While TWC/Comcast DOES suck, all cable doesn't.
That shit doesn't happen all the time with satellite if you have a competent installer. I've had it for 7 or 8 years and mine has only gone out once or twice for a total of 5 minutes or so in extremely bad weather. I honestly cannot remember the last time it went out. I don't think it has at all since I moved to this house over two years ago.

I'm not real familiar with Fios, but I wasn't referring to that when I said cable. I just know Dish rocks. It sucks that your family and friedns have had bad experience with it. Again, install is very important.

On that note, two of my coworkers had their Fios cut out on them completely in the middle of the Cowboy game a couple of weeks ago. That would suck!

How many HD channels do you have with Fios? HD programming is the reason I love my Dish so much.
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