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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-01-2007, 01:04 PM Thread Starter
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Why don't more head units have more security?

Removable faces are fine and all but it's always been a drag if I'm going to a bar or a club to carry it inside with me. More than likely I'll leave it on and stash it somewhere in my care. I know thieves count on the inconvenience of that and will search through a vehicle looking for it.

My question is why don't more (or any?) car audio manufactures start implementing like a security key that render's a head unit useless unless the key is entered or some code is keyed in. I would think it would be more of a deterrent for someone buying a stolen radio if there was a chance that it may not work because they didn't have the key or code.

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-01-2007, 01:16 PM
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Radio theft = more Radio sales. IMO it's in their best interest, not to implement more anti-theft measures.
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Radio theft = more Radio sales. IMO it's in their best interest, not to implement more anti-theft measures.
X2. plus there would be people who could get past that or reprogram a unit.

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Removable faces are fine and all but it's always been a drag if I'm going to a bar or a club to carry it inside with me. More than likely I'll leave it on and stash it somewhere in my care. I know thieves count on the inconvenience of that and will search through a vehicle looking for it.

My question is why don't more (or any?) car audio manufactures start implementing like a security key that render's a head unit useless unless the key is entered or some code is keyed in. I would think it would be more of a deterrent for someone buying a stolen radio if there was a chance that it may not work because they didn't have the key or code.

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They've tried it, eclipse headunits with ESN for example are keyed based of a particular music cd that you choose. If it looses power/stolen, you have to insert the correct CD to unlock it.

Really the removable faceplate is more for prevention. A thief checking out cars is less likely to break into a car without a big shinny radio sitting right there. With the faceplate removed its much more inconspicuous... I would bet a vast majority of the vehicle break ins are just smash and grabs, taking what ever is easy to get to. They aren't considering the fact that a particular headunit has security features, they are just going to take it and try to make a quick buck.

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They've tried it, eclipse headunits with ESN for example are keyed based of a particular music cd that you choose. If it looses power/stolen, you have to insert the correct CD to unlock it.
I've had two stolen and both were locked, didn't help me any but I hope some crackhead got his ass kicked for selling his dealer useless stuff.
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I think blaupunkt did cards that had to be inserted into the deck before they would work. Probably makes the decks too expensive in an age where people want everything for free.
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my kenwood, i had that was stolen a few years back had a security pass code that had to be put in if the unit got disconnected or if power was lost to the unit. i got a kick think about the person thats going to get screwed on that. I wish my Alpine had that.
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Yeah, Kenwood's security code was good until people sold the car, forgot the code, unhooked the battery during car service, etc. Do a google search for kenwood codes and you'll see that all the info is out there to override the code. Better than nothing but barely.
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Yeah, Kenwood's security code was good until people sold the car, forgot the code, unhooked the battery during car service, etc. Do a google search for kenwood codes and you'll see that all the info is out there to override the code. Better than nothing but barely.
You can also get around Eclipse's security. You'll need to be a dealer but there are plenty of crooked ones out there. If Circuit City sells it you know they need to be able to unlock them for stupid ass customers.
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Well shit. All of the above makes sense and I guess it doesn't make any difference. I hate driving my truck "out" anymore because I'm worried about someone ripping out my Alpine "screen"




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Alarm + insurance w/ rider to cover A/V gear + serial numbers, reciepts, pictures, etc is all you can do.
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You can also get around Eclipse's security. You'll need to be a dealer but there are plenty of crooked ones out there. If Circuit City sells it you know they need to be able to unlock them for stupid ass customers.
When we were an Eclipse dealer, I would fill out the warranty card and send it in for the customer so there was NO WAY Eclipse would not have accurate info to properly help the customer unlock the unit. I do not know a way around it but I'm sure someone does.
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Well shit. All of the above makes sense and I guess it doesn't make any difference. I hate driving my truck "out" anymore because I'm worried about someone ripping out my Alpine "screen"
Dude, I still have that cover. It's sitting right next to me. I will do my best to remember to bring it to the Xmas party.
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Alarm + insurance w/ rider to cover A/V gear + serial numbers, reciepts, pictures, etc is all you can do.

Yep, and make sure the insurance company covers it correctly. Some of them will have a max of like $2500 that they will cover for A/V equipment, no matter what.
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