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need a 1000watt amp....not junk

Like it says...... I do not like the newer stuff of the amps that are listed below. I DO PREFER OLD SCHOOL SUCH AS:

lanzar opti 2500, 50c
phoenix gold ms or mps series 2500,2250
autotek bts series 7600
hifonics VII zues,colossus
sound stream
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If u have any newer stuff thats rated at 1000watts(not maxx) please list wat u have with a price.......

Price I'm willing to spend is depending on what u have.........


thanx




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i look on ebay too so u dont have to post a link. thanx neways



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I'm not going to post a link, but i've been happy w/ all my power acoustik amps. They seem to be reasonably priced, jmo.
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Hey i dont have a considerably bad a$$ amp but this one is pretty nice, I have a Rockford Fosgate t3002 check out the specs on it and LMK

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I've got a backup amp I'd sell for $350. It's a Kicker XS-100 and is fresh from a Kicker rebuild. It's only rated at 50x2 but it's the same size as a ZR1000 and is easily 1 ohm stable. With steady voltage and the correct impedance it will do 1600-1700 watts.

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Kicker XS-100 sounds good but the price is a little high for a refub.(but i likely) i found some on line for around the 320 range(refub) + warranty. and prolly alittle cheaper on ebay if one even lists.


EW.....wat do u want for the jl e1800d



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Kicker XS-100 sounds good but the price is a little high for a refub.(but i likely) i found some on line for around the 320 range(refub) + warranty. and prolly alittle cheaper on ebay if one even lists.


EW.....wat do u want for the jl e1800d
They are rarely on there, since they are still legal for competition they've become quite the hot item. This one ended up costing me $240 with shipping and was DOA. Getting it refurbed by Kicker was I *think* $86 with shipping. I haven't tested it, just opened the box to make sure it was still an XS-100. It has the old style heat sink with the milled fins, all my other amps are the newer painted style. If it was the right style it wouldn't be for sale

If you want tons of power look for the old Mark Antonys, Cadence A7s and anything from Atomic. They were all cheaters that got rerated or banned last season. The old Orion red series amps are still popular as are the high current US Amps products. Even Audiobahn built a few pretty good cheater amps a couple of years ago.

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They are rarely on there, since they are still legal for competition they've become quite the hot item. This one ended up costing me $240 with shipping and was DOA. Getting it refurbed by Kicker was I *think* $86 with shipping. I haven't tested it, just opened the box to make sure it was still an XS-100. It has the old style heat sink with the milled fins, all my other amps are the newer painted style. If it was the right style it wouldn't be for sale

If you want tons of power look for the old Mark Antonys, Cadence A7s and anything from Atomic. They were all cheaters that got rerated or banned last season. The old Orion red series amps are still popular as are the high current US Amps products. Even Audiobahn built a few pretty good cheater amps a couple of years ago.

so u want 350 for it or u willing to neg?



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Like it says...... I do not like the newer stuff of the amps that are listed below. I DO PREFER OLD SCHOOL SUCH AS:

lanzar opti 2500, 50c
phoenix gold ms or mps series 2500,2250
autotek bts series 7600
hifonics VII zues,colossus
sound stream
fosgate



If u have any newer stuff thats rated at 1000watts(not maxx) please list wat u have with a price.......

Price I'm willing to spend is depending on what u have.........


thanx
FYI: the zeus is not rated over 1000WRMS. I had one that had a max at 1100 or 1200 and it couldn't even push a couple of 12" Lanzars. It blew but luckily i had a warranty still and they took it back and i got store credit b/c they didn't have any to replace it and didn't want to fix it either.

i have a 1200 WATT BOSS(2 channel) and a 1600 WATT BOSS(4 channel) but don't rememebr the model #'s off the top of my head
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FYI: the zeus is not rated over 1000WRMS. I had one that had a max at 1100 or 1200 and it couldn't even push a couple of 12" Lanzars. It blew but luckily i had a warranty still and they took it back and i got store credit b/c they didn't have any to replace it and didn't want to fix it either.

i have a 1200 WATT BOSS(2 channel) and a 1600 WATT BOSS(4 channel) but don't rememebr the model #'s off the top of my head

the zeus amp i am wanting is NOT the one ur thinking of. I am wanting the OLD SCHOOL amp; the better ones that was built back in the early to mid 90's. back then it was built by zed audio. it was rated at 600 watts at 12v. the hifonics amp that is built NOW is the same company that builds pyramid. most of the amps today is rated at 14v and NOT 12v and thats one reason I want an older amp.

those amps listed in my first post are those of the OLDER days, the better amps



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the zeus amp i am wanting is NOT the one ur thinking of. I am wanting the OLD SCHOOL amp; the better ones that was built back in the early to mid 90's. back then it was built by zed audio. it was rated at 600 watts at 12v. the hifonics amp that is built NOW is the same company that builds pyramid. most of the amps today is rated at 14v and NOT 12v and thats one reason I want an older amp.

those amps listed in my first post are those of the OLDER days, the better amps
the one i had was quite a few years ago. In fact, I bought the last one around. Thats why they couldn't just replace it. Maybe it was rated at 14V but i don't recall.
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the one i had was quite a few years ago. In fact, I bought the last one around. Thats why they couldn't just replace it. Maybe it was rated at 14V but i don't recall.

the name is actually Hifonics ZEUS VII, and it is rated at 600 watts at 12v. but back in thise days most of the amps were underrated. it would push 1100+watts at 12v in 2 ohms bridge and more if rated at 14v

it looks similar to this(diff name and bigger in size)

http://cgi.ebay.com/HIFONICS-SERIES-...QQcmdZViewItem




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the name is actually Hifonics ZEUS VII, and it is rated at 600 watts at 12v. but back in thise days most of the amps were underrated. it would push 1100+watts at 12v in 2 ohms bridge and more if rated at 14v

it looks similar to this(diff name and bigger in size)

http://cgi.ebay.com/HIFONICS-SERIES-...QQcmdZViewItem
mine was silver but i don't recall too much about it except that it was either 1100 or 1200 Max, 2-channel, and had a remote bass control. It was originally priced around $1000 but i got it discounted to just a little more than $500 b/c it was the last one.
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mine was silver but i don't recall too much about it except that it was either 1100 or 1200 Max, 2-channel, and had a remote bass control. It was originally priced around $1000 but i got it discounted to just a little more than $500 b/c it was the last one.

yea thats not the same one. it didnt ever have a bass knob hell it didnt even have a built in crossover. the one u got was from the new company(same company that builds pyramid) thats one reason y it didnt work out for u.

i like the old skool amps. the only newest stuff i tried was Kove Audio. and the only reason for that is cause gary kovener(sp) owns it. he was partners with someone else that owned the OLD lanzar products(not the new stuff) other than that it was all older and I mean back in the EARLY to mid 90's stuff.(10years ago)



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i have a 1200 WATT BOSS(2 channel) and a 1600 WATT BOSS(4 channel)
LMAO! More like 200W WLS.
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LMAO! More like 200W WLS.
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i wasnt gonna b rude but glad someone said it........................lol

EW u gots ne prices for me on the e1800d



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479?

i didn't pay but $225 for the 1200 watt and $350ish for the 1600 Watt. The 1600 Watt amp is 175RMS at 4ohm load. It runs my 2 small 10" subs and my 4 3way 6x9's. I haven't tweaked it or anything. I just threw it in there one day and haven't had time to go back and get it all hooked up properly. It hits fairly decent. I need to put my cap on it now before anything messes up. I Just don't run it at high levels very often.
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i wasnt gonna b rude but glad someone said it........................lol

EW u gots ne prices for me on the e1800d
it doesn't bother me. Hell, i've been wrong before but i also don't have the time to spend sitting in front of the computer for hours on end or out browsing in the stores or magazines. I barely have enought time to sleep until the weekend comes around. I work a lot and have other things going on every night of the week.
Hey, I've been told that EW knows his info. so being rude and telling me something I have no idea about, then so be it. Its just the damn internet anyways. We get on here to share ideas, concerns, etc..
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Like it says...... I do not like the newer stuff of the amps that are listed below. I DO PREFER OLD SCHOOL SUCH AS:

lanzar opti 2500, 50c
phoenix gold ms or mps series 2500,2250
autotek bts series 7600
hifonics VII zues,colossus
sound stream
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If u have any newer stuff thats rated at 1000watts(not maxx) please list wat u have with a price.......

Price I'm willing to spend is depending on what u have.........


thanx

Whats the matter with sound stream??? I have a Van Gogh 1600.1 in my car with a Kicker SoloX it it sounds great alot better then it did when I had my JL audio 1000/1 on it.
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Whats the matter with sound stream??? I have a Van Gogh 1600.1 in my car with a Kicker SoloX it it sounds great alot better then it did when I had my JL audio 1000/1 on it.

im not saying there is something wrong with it I just prefer the older amps. (theyre cleaner and built better than nowadays stuff)



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i didn't pay but $225 for the 1200 watt and $350ish for the 1600 Watt. The 1600 Watt amp is 175RMS at 4ohm load. It runs my 2 small 10" subs and my 4 3way 6x9's. I haven't tweaked it or anything. I just threw it in there one day and haven't had time to go back and get it all hooked up properly. It hits fairly decent. I need to put my cap on it now before anything messes up. I Just don't run it at high levels very often.

i think that price was for me on the jl e1800d amp.



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i didn't pay but $225 for the 1200 watt and $350ish for the 1600 Watt. The 1600 Watt amp is 175RMS at 4ohm load. It runs my 2 small 10" subs and my 4 3way 6x9's. I haven't tweaked it or anything. I just threw it in there one day and haven't had time to go back and get it all hooked up properly. It hits fairly decent. I need to put my cap on it now before anything messes up. I Just don't run it at high levels very often.
The reason you only paid $225 for a Boss 1200 watt amp is that it does not put out anywhere near 1200 watts. Cost on the "1160watt" IQ580.2 is $105. So if that is the amp you have, at $225 they made a 53% profit margin which ROCKS! I wish I could make that kind of profit on a name brand product! Boss, Pyramid, and other similar companies prey on people who want something for nothing. A real 1000 watts RMS amp is going to cost $500-1000 depending upon quality, features, and technology. Cheap car electronics have a very high profit margin because junk is cheap. I refuse to sell such products. I believe you get what you pay for. The best way to get quality product is buy name brand products from real stores from people who know what they are talking about. That way, you will get the best product for your application and it will sound better, last longer, and do what it says it will do.
Many cheap amp manufacturers do not print specs because more specs will allow you to compare it to other amps. Also, anyone who has a word processor can print specs so keep that in mind with shady products.
Tips for buying amps:
CEA2006 specs are good but a little optomistic. A good complete rating will be something like this:

100 watts RMS x2 @ 4 ohm, 12.5V, 20Hz-20kHz
THD at rated power <0.05% THD @ 4 ohm per channel, 20Hz-20kHz
Signal to noise ratio >110dB (CEA specs will be lower like 80) Higher is better.
Frequency response 5Hz-30kHz (+0/-0db) The further the +/- numbers get from zero, the less accurate the amp is.
Any of the above info missing is an opportunity for the manufacturer to mislead you. One spec without the others is meaningless.

1. Look for a power rating at 12.5 volts. Most amps rated at 14.4 volts will see as much as 20% additional power at 14.4V than at 12.5V which would make a 400W RMS amp at 12.5V be 500W RMS at 14.4V. However, 12.5V is a more realistic voltage at the amp when you're driving your car. 14.4V ratings are best case scenario and a car electrical system is not best case scenario.
2. Look for a full range amp to be rated from 20Hz-20kHz which is the approximate range humans can hear. Many amps are rated at 1000Hz (1kHz) because it is easier for the amp to play one tone than a full range signal so the power rating is inflated. For Class D amps (bass only) look for the range to be something like 20Hz-250Hz.
3. Ignore ANY "max" or "peak" numbers. No exceptions.
4. Look for the ohm load that the rating is given. If you're running a 4ch amp on four mid/high type speakers, chances are you'll be using it at 4 ohm stereo. If they rate the amp at 2 ohm, you need to cut that number in half since you won't be running it at 2 ohm.
5. THD numbers are low on most modern equipment but it is best for the THD to be below 1%.
6. Listen to the amp in a car if you can. A high quality low power amp will perform better than a low quality high power amp.
7. Match the amp to the speakers you'll be using or vice versa. If you buy 2-4 ohm woofers, you're going to need an amp that will run 2 ohm mono for the best performance. If you buy DVC woofers and you do not know what you're doing, ask a pro for help. They can help you pick the proper amp or ohm load for your situation.
8. A deal on junk is not a deal.

I'm sure I've left out something. Adam?

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what kind of car is it going in? you will need power to get the power....

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what kind of car is it going in? you will need power to get the power....

its for my gf car(civic); its a daily driver. i just like to have the better stuff.

i had 8(dual xtr) 15's in a beretta all ran by 4, the well known, phoenix gold mps 2500 series. and those need power too. had 3rd loudest in texas in 94 251-500 class w/that setup(been in the business since 93).

just had built a kove truck with 8 12's and 4 kove zx1000 amps; sold it for a bike.

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