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what amp and how many watts

i currently purchased two L7 10" solo-baric speakers, and now am getting ready to buy an amp, how many watts should the amp be or how many watts should be directed to each speaker???


i want it to be loud but not too loud since its going in a single cab chevy

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Find out what the RMS power rating is for each woofer. Buy at least that much RMS power. Your amp's capabilities need to match your woofer's ohm load.
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specs are as follow

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Have you had any experience with the Kenwood amps (specifically the KAC-1021) from the early 90's?
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never been into systems much but my lil bro blew my speakers so i decided to get something else rather then stock
so i have no idea on non of this shit!

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Have you had any experience with the Kenwood amps (specifically the KAC-1021) from the early 90's?
Not that model.
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specs are as follow

(watts peak/rms)
1200/600
So to drive two, it would be best to run 1200W rms to the pair. Your alternator may not like that. You can drive them with less power. A Class D amp will be the most efficient type to buy. You can also buy one amp per woofer. What is the ohm load of your woofers?
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Man, those JLs are crap. I'll do ya a favor and give ya my 10" MTX subs w/amps for 'em. Jking of course. Typically, what I do is buy matched stuff. i.e. I'm a bang for the buck guy so I went with MTX, on their page they have a chart to match what sub with what amp...etc Check JL's site and see if that is true for them as well.

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What is your budget and how loud do you need it? A real 600x2 amp isn't going to be cheap!

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Man, those JLs are crap. I'll do ya a favor and give ya my 10" MTX subs w/amps for 'em. Jking of course. Typically, what I do is buy matched stuff. i.e. I'm a bang for the buck guy so I went with MTX, on their page they have a chart to match what sub with what amp...etc Check JL's site and see if that is true for them as well.

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Uh...L7=kicker.
I'll sell you an XS-100 for $400, just got it back from Kicker. I bet it'd motivate a pair of 10s really well! It's only rated at 50x2 though

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i currently purchased two L7 10" solo-baric speakers, and now am getting ready to buy an amp, how many watts should the amp be or how many watts should be directed to each speaker???


i want it to be loud but not too loud since its going in a single cab chevy



not to loud......L7 wow those subs are pretty awsome.
what ever they are peak rated go under about 100 watts
are they 4ohm,single or dual voice coil?
what kind of box,ported or sealed?
ported box is good if you dont want to run a big watt amp.
sealed for the solid hit,with a bigger amp.
i will guess a 1channel 500 watt would be just fine
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not to loud......L7 wow those subs are pretty awsome.
what ever they are peak rated go under about 100 watts
are they 4ohm,single or dual voice coil?
what kind of box,ported or sealed?
ported box is good if you dont want to run a big watt amp.
sealed for the solid hit,with a bigger amp.
i will guess a 1channel 500 watt would be just fine
WTF? You are clueless.
A. 100W under peak=1100W/woofer
B. Ignore the peak rating. It is worthless marketing IMO.
C. So by your math, you need 2200 watts to run the pair but you "will guess a 1channel 500 watt would be just fine"?
D. I don't think he'll be running a ported box in a single cab chevy p/u.
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I've been trying to find a box and no luck, most all boxes are for extended cab
And budget wise, I'm not really skured to spend but I don't want to go crazy.
And the speakers are 2ohms dual voice coil
We hooked them up to my brothers sony 1200w amp and they hardly were loud at all, guy that sold then to me said to go with a jl 1000.1 bridged, what all do I have to do so I won't kill my battery, my brothers battery didn't like the speakers at all

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I've been trying to find a box and no luck, most all boxes are for extended cab
And budget wise, I'm not really skured to spend but I don't want to go crazy.
And the speakers are 2ohms dual voice coil
We hooked them up to my brothers sony 1200w amp and they hardly were loud at all, guy that sold then to me said to go with a jl 1000.1 bridged, what all do I have to do so I won't kill my battery, my brothers battery didn't like the speakers at all
Your brothers sony amp is only about 300 watts no matter what is says on the case and it depends on how you wired the woofers. If his battery did not like the 300W amp, it would hate a real amp. If the woofers are not in an enclosure, you're going to damage them.
A good enclosure will cost around $200. The JL 1000/1 will not work properly without a bad boy alternator and it can not be bridged since it is already a one channel amp.
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Looks like ill be building my own case,
Other than that I've seen a couple of amps, a jl 1000 like I had said and now 2-jl 500.1 for each
But we will see what happens

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WTF? You are clueless.
A. 100W under peak=1100W/woofer
B. Ignore the peak rating. It is worthless marketing IMO.
C. So by your math, you need 2200 watts to run the pair but you "will guess a 1channel 500 watt would be just fine"?
D. I don't think he'll be running a ported box in a single cab chevy p/u.


i am not familiar with those subs,i didnt think those were solo baric.and no not if those subs will handle that much,damm he dont want to go extreme,i think he went with the best.i have a 92 chevy single cab with 4 rockford he2 with a bd1000
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Bullshit, if you hit a 162.x with a BD 1000 on a good meter.

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some guy on here is selling a 1600w phenix gold saphire,
would that power the speakers???

is it a good amp???

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i am not familiar with those subs,i didnt think those were solo baric.and no not if those subs will handle that much,damm he dont want to go extreme,i think he went with the best.i have a 92 chevy single cab with 4 rockford he2 with a bd1000
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some guy on here is selling a 1600w phenix gold saphire,
would that power the speakers???

is it a good amp???

what do yall think???

its a 1600w/4
so 4x400
could i bridge them and make it work or is it a no go?

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Bullshit, if you hit a 162.x with a BD 1000 on a good meter.
If they were quad 1 ohm voice coil speakers and he had 16 BD1000s he might hit 160 on an AC meter Still not likely, but it's possible. Then again he might be talking about port wars. My old car would do 160+ in the port with a couple of 10s and a ZR360.

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Bullshit, if you hit a 162.x with a BD 1000 on a good meter.


did it in the right side kick panel,have access to a meter if i need to prove it,also that was with the amp dropped to a 1/2 ohm
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If they were quad 1 ohm voice coil speakers and he had 16 BD1000s he might hit 160 on an AC meter Still not likely, but it's possible. Then again he might be talking about port wars. My old car would do 160+ in the port with a couple of 10s and a ZR360.

it wouldnt do a 155 in the port,dont know why but it always did better in the right kick with the drivers window cracked a 1/2" and the pass window half way down
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some guy on here is selling a 1600w phenix gold saphire,
would that power the speakers???

is it a good amp???

i always liked pg
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i always liked pg

But would it push my 2 speakers, once again my speakers are 2solo-baric L7 10" 1200w/600rms and the amp is a 1600w/4 phenix gold amp,


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But would it push my 2 speakers, once again my speakers are 2solo-baric L7 10" 1200w/600rms and the amp is a 1600w/4 phenix gold amp,


Thanks for any help and opinions

yes it would push them,push them good yes,to the fullest no,
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yes it would push them,push them good yes,to the fullest no,
Thank u very much, if I do buy it, would I hook 2 channels to one speaker to make it 800 watts or will that not work?

Is push them good decent or will they sound like shit?

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I've never seen a "1600" watt Phoenix Gold Sapphire amp. Do you have a link to it?

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Its in da classifieds,

Would a kicker amp from circuit city-1200w.1 with 300rms at 4ohms work, my speakers are 2ohm??????

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thanks for the link, buddy.

Are your subs Dual 2 ohm, or Dual 4 ohm?

if they're dual 4 ohm, the kx1200.1 would work, not well, but it would work.

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No, they are 2ohms
Sorry I'm comp illerate so I don't know how to post it da link that is

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Last I checked, kicker doesn't offer any subwoofers in a single 2 ohm voice coil configuration.

Are they dual 4, or dual 2 ohm speakers? it will tell you on the back of the woofer.

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Yes I believe they are dual 2ohm

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okay, so you will need ~1000wrms @ 2ohms, or .5 ohm (the latter being alot less common)


JL audio 1000/1, MTX ta7801, there are literally hundreds of amplifiers that will work very well, but a phoenix gold 4 channel isn't one of them.


Look for a good mono block amp that makes it's power @ 2 ohms.

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You could even go with a JL 500/1 mono amp. and they would still hit hard.

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So the kicker 1200w would hit hard ???
I would like opinions since ill be buying the amp this weekend


I narrowed my choices to
1 jl 500.1
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1 kicker 1200.1

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So the kicker 1200w would hit hard ???
I would like opinions since ill be buying the amp this weekend


I narrowed my choices to
1 jl 500.1
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1 kicker 1200.1



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I narrowed my choices to
1 jl 500.1
Or
1 kicker 1200.1

LOL, just ignore anything that two of the more knowledgable people in this forum say, it makes it more fun.

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LOL, just ignore anything that two of the more knowledgable people in this forum say, it makes it more fun.
people started hijacking and i kinda got lost on what was going on and being said,

im not ignoring what people are saying, but i need clear answers,

ex. you said get a jl1000.1 or a mtx
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Listen to Mr. Wagon and EW.

I ran one L7 same as yours on one JL 500/1. Loved it for about thirty minites. Added the EQT and I was slammin that square. Then that sucker seperated about 48 hrs later.

Moral of the story. The 500/1 gots plenty of processing to start with.
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You need ~1000wrms @ 2 ohms.

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here let me put it in simple terms


which should i buy?

not what i need but what do i need to buy?

ew - onebadwagon,

which one??

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