thanks for the quasi support not so much for the dumb ass comments. Yes you did try and help me out a little while back. but you know what how could i call that to his face with him hiding. so you are telling me that you would have givin him money to do something to your car before all this happened. come one man it wasnt like i hadnt know him for a little bit or hung out with him or played softball on his team. he wasnt a stranger, so the comments about that are bogus. you know you would have trusted him to, i really do hope he comes around not sure that i would really put any weight into any excuses he had about personal problems. hell he told me that shit and then cut out again, i do know he was going through some stuff last i saw him. but does that give you a get out of jail free card to rip off someone you know off (and he told me he considered me a good friend also). i hope that this thread brings him out, if i have to call him a bastard to get him to respond so be it. because right now it is just business, strictly business. we made a business transaction and he reniged on his part and ran off with my money. it has nothing to do with how i feel about him personally, cause shit personally i hope he gets his shit right for the people in his life. but from a business stand point well you know.