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post #1 of 158 (permalink) Old 12-18-2001, 12:56 PM Thread Starter
 
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Sand Bagging Cool or Uncool

Who agrees with having to sand bag a race to win?
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its all part of the game. If you are gong to make any money street racing you should only use what you got when you have to. And it wouldn't hurt to loose a couple now and then either.
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Like having nitrous, it's cheating. I'm stock and I don't have nitrous, so it wouldn't be fair to race a car with a bunch of mods without me knowing.
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No I mean saying I have no NOS then hitting the bottle so you don't lose. Basically cheating. Tell the truth is the point
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The only time it is a good time to let the thing have it is when money is on the line baby and if you beat them by more than a car you are hurting your future customer relations...
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No I mean saying I have no NOS then hitting the bottle so you don't lose. Basically cheating. Tell the truth is the point
If you want honesty then you better go to your nearest church....you may not find it there even! LOL
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i dont like it. its mocking the guys who work hard for the few mods they have, and cant afford that 408 SVO block or whatever. Its a kick in the nuts to the little guy, but if some guy (or girl, in steph`s case) gets a big head about his car, part him from his money.
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Well thats why I am building my car the way I am to be able to beat people who HAVE to cheat to win. I think thats pussy if somebody has to lie about what they have so they can pretend they are awesome to win a race.
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Sandbaggin is cool!

But I think your definition of sandbagging is weird.

Sandbagging is NOT showing your hand...

I think you are talking about not telling the truth.
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Come on people I see lots of lookers it takes 2 seconds to click your choice. Lets see who is honest and who is needs lie to win a race...
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Boys its just like playing poker....don't be suprised if the guy sitting across from you has a real hand that is bigger than your bluff.

You don't know how many tools I gave five car lengths to for $50 out in front of the Centenniel Liquor Store on NW highway at 2am.... What is cool is that EVERY one of them paid and took it like a man.
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Sandbaggin is cool!

But I think your definition of sandbagging is weird.

Sandbagging is NOT showing your hand...

I think you are talking about not telling the truth.
Guy in coupe: "Ok let's do it again, I'll run my nitrous this time"

Bryan: "OK, let's go"

LMFAO!!!!
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If you tell me you have one thing and have something else just to race me thats insecurity and i will still be more then happy to take your money. You can give me 5 cars when my car is done lol I would take that bet to almost anyone on the board.
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If you tell me you have one thing and have something else just to race me thats insecurity and i will still be more then happy to take your money. You can give me 5 cars when my car is done lol I would take that bet to almost anyone on the board.
You got a customer right here! Just let me know when it's done. Mine will be ready in about 6 weeks.
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Ill give you 5 cars on the street.
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i dont like it. its mocking the guys who work hard for the few mods they have, and cant afford that 408 SVO block or whatever. Its a kick in the nuts to the little guy, but if some guy (or girl, in steph`s case) gets a big head about his car, part him from his money.
Then they should go find some ricers and come back when they have something! It's not mocking anyone. If they can't afford nothing but a few mods, then what the hell are they doing lining up?
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5 car lengths ......hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Guy in coupe: "Ok let's do it again, I'll run my nitrous this time"

Bryan: "OK, let's go"

LMFAO!!!!
Bryan: ...I still wont spray this time, Ok?

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Mine wont be ready in 6 weeks but when its done I will take that bet. Brian I will take that bet with you too. I would like to see if I can hang. I think I will be able to if everything stays together. But isn't that the point when you build it the right way? lol
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If you tell me you have one thing and have something else just to race me thats insecurity and i will still be more then happy to take your money. You can give me 5 cars when my car is done lol I would take that bet to almost anyone on the board.
6 cars here!!!
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When my project car is done, I'll give anyone 7 cars and the move.
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Its amazing how many views on this thread there is yet only 10 people have voted so far? Hmmmmmmmmm lot of looky loos
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Mine wont be ready in 6 weeks but when its done I will take that bet. Brian I will take that bet with you too. I would like to see if I can hang. I think I will be able to if everything stays together. But isn't that the point when you build it the right way? lol
Hanging aint getting set out 5 cars!

Hanging is heads up!
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I was racing on Garden Acres on night in South Fort Worth and gave a guy in a "stock" 5.0 ten cars.....i left on the rev limiter trying to take back that real estate!!!
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I don't know you at all Denny, which is your car? 6 cars eh???? Hmmmm sounds fun...
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Hanging aint getting set out 5 cars!

Hanging is heads up!
I want 5 cars from you too!!!
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I don't know you at all Denny, which is your car? 6 cars eh???? Hmmmm sounds fun...
83 Mustang... It's not finished, but it can be with the right race offer!
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I will run you heads up Brian. I've seen your car run and I will be happy to stay next to you. How many times have you broken in the 9's???? I think I saw one so far. What was the time though?
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sandbaggin is fun.

Lure in the suckas who think your car isn't fast, then beat them all in front of everybody. If you whip 'em bad, you'll never hear smack from them again.

never reveal all your secrets.
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Denny is this a complete drag car your building or a street warrior? What size motor you gonna run? I have a little 5.0 :-) Gotta love those things...
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That pass was a 9.99

Been in the 9's a couple more times since then
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Spoken like a true player....
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Congrats on the 9's. Do you have an NHRA license? Or did they kick you off each time?
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If you whip 'em bad, you'll never hear smack from them again.
That didn't work on Brad.
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I'm not trying to be a dick Tweakd, but there are alot of people that would consider your complaining about people not spilling the beans about the entire setup before a race is very pussy like. You should sit and observe the competition before you try and race them. Because only a dumbass would tell you everything about his car before a race. Like AL P said its like poker, and you need to know how to call a bluff. There are lots of chevy guys that won't think twice about lying about the 575 cuin motor is only 396.
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No license. Never been kicked off for running 9's. They liked the car
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I will run you heads up Brian. I've seen your car run and I will be happy to stay next to you. How many times have you broken in the 9's???? I think I saw one so far. What was the time though?
there you go.step in a hit the biggest MF'er
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That didn't work on Brad.
Sure it did. He knows his place now, for realz
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LOL I guess I actually have pride in my stuff and have no shame to hide what is under the hood to make the car move. Complaining? Ok maybe but its justified. Lying is for the weak minded. This isn't poker its racing. Do you see John Force going to a pro stock car saying he wanna run my mustang? No its only like 800Hp LMAO. Like I said I am all up for a race. But don't lie to win a race I have no respect for somebody who does that. If you say what you have an I race and lose then congrats. If you win by lying then thats pointless. Anyone can take 500 Hp and go pick on some 300 HP car but whats the point? Don't you want to race people cometitive to you so your not wasting your time and gas and see if your as good or better of a driver then the guy next to you? Well I guess I love racing for racing not for seeing if I can beat people by lying. Good luck on the track.
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I don't think what you're talking about is sandbagging per say...I have sandbagged bracket racing, but that's because I don't have a roll cage yet to run the car full blast. If you're running someone for money I think it's in your best interest to give them an honest idea of what your car can do...don't have to tell them everything you have, but make it somewhat fair...some of these people out there are nuts and will do some crazy shit if you screw them over, have heard of a few times of guns being pulled because of someone being setup. To me, you need to pick your competition wisely, otherwise it's your own fault for getting your ass handed to you.

Now, when it comes to ricers...I just say "I don't care what you have lets run"
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I hope if I get to the 9's someday they will be as nice to me as they do you lol.... They usually are pretty strict about those things. Where around here can you go to get the NHRA license? Anyone know?
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The point is: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you sandbag against a slow car and barely beat them, then a faster car will want to race for more money. And so on and so on.

If your talking about racing for grins, then taht is different. People that want to race for money usually don't race for grins.

I will be racing this coming season in Road Rage at Denton. The small tire class. And I garantee nobody cares what I have under the hood.
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Where around here can you go to get the NHRA license? Anyone know?
Every now and then, They certify chassis at Kennedale and make your passes. You have to go to a doctor yourself for the physical.
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let me ask you a question.whats the fastest you ever went?
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Lure in the suckas who think your car isn't fast, then beat them all in front of everybody. If you whip 'em bad, you'll never hear smack from them again.

never reveal all your secrets.
Indeed. Which is why I like sleepers.
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Michael I agree with you 100% I am talking more the sandbagging of race a fair race. Even if you don't disclose your mods disclose correct track times and HP #'s.
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Actually when it comes to racing on the street I want to beat people and take their money. I've got a lot of time and money in my car so I feel if i want to keep things hush hush then that is my right. If someone doesn't like that possibility, well then, they probably shouldn't be racing me for money now should they? Just like poker, why would I show anyone my hand? what would be gained by that?
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beside if you are street racing you had better have yo chit together before you go picking on veterans.
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