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Old 03-18-2003, 08:41 AM   #1
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Our President said "May God continue to bless America"

Isn't that bad?
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it's better than him talking about a peanut butter sandwich.
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Old 03-18-2003, 08:44 AM   #3
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I want GOD to continue blessing me! I ask for his blessings every day!
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it's better than him talking about a peanut butter sandwich.
or talking about how he's banned from ls1.com....... again....
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or talking about how he's banned from ls1.com....... again....
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Re: Our President said "May God continue to bless America"

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Isn't that bad?
Only if you're a PC-extremist!
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I clapped when I heard him say that. I'm so happy he still uses God and religious references.
Can I get an AMEN. Whether you believe in God or not, it should be viewed only as a reference for HOPE. I can't understand why non-believers get so out of sorts, not looking at it as such. Why not add an Insert belief here __________ thing when the word God is used. But hey that's just me, my kid does her morning pledge to the American Flag, the Christian Flag and the Bible, none of which will ever be changed at her school.
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I know it's a good thing but, I know a few people on this site threw up their food when they heard it! LOL

Our President is a "sheep"!!!!
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Our President is a "sheep"!!!!
ill give an AMEN to that!!!
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Old 03-18-2003, 09:10 AM   #11
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I know it's a good thing but, I know a few people on this site threw up their food when they heard it! LOL

Our President is a "sheep"!!!!
Lol.

One thing about Bush, born again or not, he is steadfast in his convictions. Regardless of what you believe, you have to respect him for that.
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I thought the speech was nuculer!!!

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Old 03-18-2003, 09:22 AM   #14
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I thought the speech was nuculer!!!

LOL. That was pretty obvious in his speech last night.
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Old 03-18-2003, 09:36 AM   #15
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Its awesome what he said, we need God's blessing always, ecspecially now. Bush is a very faithfull man and I applaud him for it, its exactly what we need after the pitifull excuse for a man we had in office last.
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yea, right, we need a leader who has his religious beleifs tied up in the politics.. riiiiiight..
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Old 03-18-2003, 09:44 AM   #17
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Seriously, who fucking cares?

I'd say probably 80-90% of our country bases beliefs off religeon. Fuck the other 10-20 % who are "offended" by it. I'm not pro or anti religeon. I'm somewhere in the middle as a "lost sheep" if you will, but I'm not going to say that the President fucked up his speech by putting "God bless" in it. "God Bless America" has been one of the biggest patriotic "catch phrases" for quite some time now. Why the problem now?

Just my $.02.
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Lol.

One thing about Bush, born again or not, he is steadfast in his convictions. Regardless of what you believe, you have to respect him for that.
I don't believe what I just read. Is this really 01whitecobra?
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WHOA there, i never said that he fucked it up, if i am who that is directed at. But, with the "separation of church and state" which is complete bullshit, i find it amusing that religion is such a huge part of politics, as much as it shouldn't be. I'm nor pro or anti religion either, i too consider myself one of the "lost sheep", but there should be a boundary somewhere..
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I don't believe what I just read. Is this really 01whitecobra?
He must've installed linux and he has a new, better outlook on life

Edit: Fixed by Linux Dumbass Check v1.0a

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Old 03-18-2003, 09:51 AM   #21
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I don't believe what I just read. Is this really 01whitecobra?
Hey, I'm all for a person who is steadfast in his convictions and doesn't waffle to the whim of the masses. There is nothing in this country or its Constitution that precludes the President from blessing the nation with his belief.

Bush thinks enough of this nation that he calls on his God to bless it. That's cool with me.
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linux doesn't have spellcheck?
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It does, it just doesnt have dumbass check
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lmao. what kernel would that be? 4.20.6969

u sure you didn't just rehash the same old non-dumbass-checking kernel you were using before?
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yea, right, we need a leader who has his religious beleifs tied up in the politics.. riiiiiight..
That's one of the reasons I voted for him. There are several people on here who believe the same, without God we have no hope. This is a nation built "under God" and we've lived pretty fat and happy that way since 1776...why in the world would we want to start denying God in our speeches, shools, and politics now?

And I don't know who thinks Dubya is a "sheep", but he's definitely going against the grain of current world politics on this one...I'd say he's anything but a "sheep".
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Can I get an AMEN. Whether you believe in God or not, it should be viewed only as a reference for HOPE. I can't understand why non-believers get so out of sorts, not looking at it as such. Why not add an Insert belief here __________ thing when the word God is used. But hey that's just me, my kid does her morning pledge to the American Flag, the Christian Flag and the Bible, none of which will ever be changed at her school.
I'm so sure everyone would feel that way if he had said "And may Satan continue to bless America" ..........yea......didn't think so.
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I'm so sure everyone would feel that way if he had said "And may Satan continue to bless America" ..........yea......didn't think so.
lol, yea,,, that wouldnt have sounded good
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As long as he has the best interest for America in mind, that's all that really matters. Of course, the fact that he will rid us of a few arabs is a good thing also. May God* bless America!

* God may or may not be referring to the religious entity.

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It concerns me that religion and politics get mixed together. Just look at the countries we are dealing with right now. I believe that they are all goverments who have some sort of religious base. That is a tool they use to suppress the people of there respective countries.
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It concerns me that religion and politics get mixed together. Just look at the countries we are dealing with right now. I believe that they are all goverments who have some sort of religious base. That is a tool they use to suppress the people of there respective countries.
But Christianity is miles different than Islam. These countries that are based on Islam, Actually refer to the Koran that was written so very long ago to deal with current problems. One of their "laws" is that if anyone talks against the Koran then the people in the street should tear this person apart from limb to limb. Yet, they want to be called a civilized society...
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why in the world would we want to start denying God in our speeches, shools, and politics now?

you spelled "schools" wrong ..and why would we want to start denying god in schools and politics? 5 words, Separation Of Church And State. It's the "law".
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... refer to the Koran that was written so very long ago to deal with current problems.
unless you're reading the King James version, your bible isn't anything new.
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you spelled "schools" wrong ..and why would we want to start denying god in schools and politics? 5 words, Separation Of Church And State. It's the "law".
Sorry about misspelling schools. I'm an engineer...and spelling errors are not generally an issue in a civilized discussion like we're trying to have. Try to stay on topic.

Yes, separation of church and state is the "law". But when dealing with issues such as war and politics, those in power have to consider to moral fabric, beliefs, goals, and ideals of it's citizens. As a whole, this country is a Christian nation...and those that are not are generally peaceful people who cling to the same principals of peace, freedom, and humanity as Christians. Therefore, the "church" doesn't necessarily get involved in the day to day operations of politics...but the morals and ideals that make up the "church" become a part of critical decision making and deplomacy.
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hmm..Thats where everyone seems to have gone wrong we are NOT simply a "christian" nation, so dont say we are. our nation is a conglomeration of all sorts of religions, and there is no way that we should disregard what anyone who isn't of christian beleif thinks. Politics and religion are on two seperate tables, and should be left that way. its stupid to say just bc the predominance of our nation is christian , we can forget what the other people who live here think. just seems childish to me.
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hmm..Thats where everyone seems to have gone wrong we are NOT simply a "christian" nation, so dont say we are. our nation is a conglomeration of all sorts of religions, and there is no way that we should disregard what anyone who isn't of christian beleif thinks. Politics and religion are on two seperate tables, and should be left that way. its stupid to say just bc the predominance of our nation is christian , we can forget what the other people who live here think. just seems childish to me.
We could go on all day about this, so we'll have to agree to disagree. But I'll point out a couple of additional items.

I highlighted the fact that there are those people in this country who are not Christian, but those who are not support the same ideals such as peach and freedom that all Christians believe in. Peace and freedom is preached in Islam for example only followers of Islam...Islam commands tearing non-believers limb from limb and anything else violent to destroy all others. Christians preach peace towards others...do unto others as you would like to be treated. When the Bible talks about love and peace, it is speaking of all people. In Islam, it only preaches love and peace toward Islam followers.

My point is: peace, freedom, and general love of mankind is a principal that is deeply imbedded into our country's democratic ideals and deplomacy. That comes from our roots as a God-fearing country. It can't and won't change overnight. So don't ask for the USA to forget about God...when that happens the earth will burn in the fires foretold in Revelation (go read it sometime).

Further, I never said we should forget about what anyone who is not a Christian says. I have plenty of friends who are not Christians (yet) and I listen to what they say. Example: I'm assuming you are not a Christian (if you are, we should talk because you have a few misconceptions), yet I am still sitting here having a civil discussion with you...not ignoring you like you indicated I would in your post.

Lastly, I think you misuse the word religion. The connotation of the word "religion" implies strict practice of faith, one ideal, one set of morals...in essence a very narrow minded meaning. In fact, that is not what we are arguing here. The term "Christian faith" is a rather broad term...many different denominations fall under this umbrella with somewhat different ideals on interpretations of the Bible...each of these are often called different religions. But the underlying principles are the same...peace, freedom, love toward others, etc. These are the underlying principles of our country and like it or not they come from a backbone of Christian faith in this country.
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unless you're reading the King James version, your bible isn't anything new.
Don't take my words out of context. We're not running a country based on the bible. So where were you headed with this?
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Peace and freedom is preached in Islam for example only followers of Islam...Islam commands tearing non-believers limb from limb and anything else violent to destroy all others.
This is so wrong, I don't know where to start.
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This is so wrong, I don't know where to start.
Then by all means, correct me. Islam is a peaceful faith only for believers of Islam...it does not preach peace TOWARD non-believers. That's a fact.
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I'm nor pro or anti religion either, i too consider myself one of the "lost sheep", but there should be a boundary somewhere..
Please feel free not to try and be one of the ones setting the boundary you say should be set, especially if you are a lost sheep when it comes to faith/religion. It's about time some belief other than self arousal/satisfaction is permeating the White House.
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Then by all means, correct me. Islam is a peaceful faith only for believers of Islam...it does not preach peace TOWARD non-believers. That's a fact.
You know, I should, but I'm tired and it properly wouldn't help you any. I think this is one that you need to research on your own. Then, you will understand how wrong your statement is.

BTW, do you consider Hitler a Christian? He considered himself one.
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BTW, do you consider Hitler a Christian? He considered himself one.
Satan talked as if he was a friend of men and helping Adam and Eve out by eating the forbiddin fruit. Do you think he really was a friend?

Here is a pic w/ some meaning of what makes a Christian other than words or self proclaiming
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Satan talked as if he was a friend of men and helping Adam and Eve out by eating the forbiddin fruit. Do you think he really was a friend?

Here is a pic w/ some meaning of what makes a Christian other than words or self proclaiming

Thanks 281R. I'll restate my point. When a person twists a religion to support their cause, it is a reflection on that person, not the religion.
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You know, I should, but I'm tired and it properly wouldn't help you any. I think this is one that you need to research on your own. Then, you will understand how wrong your statement is.

You've been duped by the watered down version of Islam.
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I get mine information from the Qur'an. What brain washed Christian version are you being duped by?
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Please feel free not to try and be one of the ones setting the boundary you say should be set, especially if you are a lost sheep when it comes to faith/religion. It's about time some belief other than self arousal/satisfaction is permeating the White House.


I still dont get why everyone had their panties in a wad about Clinton getting a BJ. Jealousy? Just goes to show how patheticlly repressed civilization has become.
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I'm so sure everyone would feel that way if he had said "And may Satan continue to bless America" ..........yea......didn't think so.
haha! No one said HE'D say that, I was refering to you non-believers. Add in Satan all you want. I'll just be sure to stand waaaaaaaaay over here.
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haha! No one said HE'D say that, I was refering to you non-believers. Add in Satan all you want. I'll just be sure to stand waaaaaaaaay over here.

No thanks, lol. What I meant is this. Believers/christians tend to say what you said in your previous post ("I can't understand why non-believers get so out of sorts when a reference to God is made") The only reason you don't get out of sorts is because the reference made is about a deity you serve and believe in. My point is this, if he had replaced God with Satan, every Christian in America would be ready to hang him. See what i'm saying? It's always great when others agree with you but I believe the leadership of this country needs to take a neutral stance on religion by leaving it out of the politics. Of course christians wouldn't agree with me on that topic and they won't until we end up with a Satanist as president or a follower of Islam, etc.
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