So do you prefer to hand wax your car or use a buffer?

mustang_marc · 07-21-2001, 05:15 PM

Did the hand wax today and spend a good 2 hours just on the waxing. Any negatives to using a buffer? I think I'm gonna go that route next time.

96MYSTIC · 07-21-2001, 05:27 PM

I hand wax the car. Remove the wax with one of those 100% cotton towels. Finally, I shine it up with the buffer with one of those super soft bonnets.

If you use the buffer to do it all........don't, or at least apply the wax by hand.

Just my $.02

Matt93Cobra · 07-21-2001, 05:56 PM

Strictly hand waxing for my car. Zaino brotha!

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bard · 07-21-2001, 07:10 PM

Easy to fugg up a good paint job with a buffer. Leave it for the pros or practice on something you won't regret burning through to the primer on.

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07-21-2001, 08:29 PM

Nothing beats a good hand job!~

Who Needs 8 · 07-21-2001, 08:33 PM

On My Old Probe, I used a Buffer and Wax

But only Zanio for the Buick!!! And the only way to do Zanio properly is by hand, but it doesn't take as much effort as waxing!!!

76 Maverick · 07-21-2001, 08:34 PM

Are you sure we are talking about the car here?

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Gear_Jammer · 07-21-2001, 08:40 PM

Zaino by hand blows everything else away IMHO...

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92GreenMonster · 07-21-2001, 09:08 PM

I just keep mine under a cover at my parents house since it never runs anyways. But when it used to run I used the buffer (I think) my Dad got. I'm not sure if it's a buffer or not, but it was designed specifically for waxing cars, so there's not a risk of burning up paint (it doesn't spin very fast and the pad is very soft). Someday if I'm ever out of debt I'm going to give Zaino a try, but until then, buffer it is! BTW, how long do you have to wait before washing or waxing a newly painted fiberglass hood (also sitting in the garage)?

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Beej · 07-21-2001, 09:34 PM

Im a hand man, I like to do it by hand, not as hard on the paint, and I dont think the buffer is that much quicker.

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Merkur · 07-22-2001, 12:41 AM

I use a random orbital buffer with a foam pad for application and my hands to remove and buff. its just a time saver. i'll ussualy do 2-3 coats at a time. otherwise it would take to long and i would only do one in an afternoon.

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evil jose · 07-22-2001, 02:09 AM

Moving this over to the The Detail Shop for further discussion.

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07-23-2001, 12:40 AM

If you insist on staying with old technology, like a carnuba wax then yes, a rotary buffer will save you some time in applying it. If you move up to Zaino, it's easily and best applied by hand.

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66 GT350 Replica (drives like it's pissed off)
97 3.8L Convertible
'89 Silver Anniversary 5.0LX
I love the smell of Zaino in the morning....

mustang_marc · 07-23-2001, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tang350:
If you insist on staying with old technology, like a carnuba wax then yes, a rotary buffer will save you some time in applying it. If you move up to Zaino, it's easily and best applied by hand.

Saw your car at the mustang shop...pretty sweet ride you got there.

07-23-2001, 05:38 PM

Thanks, dude. Would you believe that the paint is 12 years old from the original restoration? And it wasn't a very good job anyway, it was just over sprayed instead of taking it down to the bare metal. So you can see what a few (

) coats of Zaino can do!

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Tang 350
66 GT350 Replica (drives like it's pissed off)
97 3.8L Convertible
'89 Silver Anniversary 5.0LX
I love the smell of Zaino in the morning....

07-23-2001, 05:40 PM

Here's a good example of what I mean:

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Tang 350
66 GT350 Replica (drives like it's pissed off)
97 3.8L Convertible
'89 Silver Anniversary 5.0LX
I love the smell of Zaino in the morning....

TxFrog1999 · 07-25-2001, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tang350:
So you can see what a few ( ) coats of Zaino can do!

Few??? coats of Zaino... haven't you hit double digits yet in the coat department Forrest?

I've just recently become a Zaino nut, and the by hand part isn't that bad.

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GE · 07-25-2001, 02:11 AM

I'm just not sold on the whole Zaino idea. I'm not sure how hard it'd be to match paint if you had got into a wreck and had to blend paint into an adjacent panel. Anyhow...

marc, if you're going to use something like Meguair's, use a random orbital buffer. It greatly reduces the chances of burning paint. Don't use the buffer on edges or door handles. Rotary buffers are bad unless you are a professional detailer who works on cars every day. Random Orbital is the way to go for a good even application of regular wax. Zaino recommends not using a buffer but they're product is a whole nother ball of wax (haha, get it?!) Anyhow...

Aside from Zaino... the key to it all is selecting a good polish to bring out the shine. The wax simply locks in what your polish did and protects the paint. Other things like swirl reducer, and other surface preps can be used... try a lil here and there and see what you like. Hope this helps.

07-25-2001, 05:51 PM

Good advice GE, about noting the difference between polish and wax, it's very important.

Oh, BTW, no problems with regard to newly painted panels using Zaino. All you'd do is just take the existing Zaino off the entire car, use isypropal (sp?) alcohol in a spray bottle and a good towel. The stuff comes right off and then you can start over again so the shine matches all panels on the car.

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Tang 350
66 GT350 Replica (drives like it's pissed off)
97 3.8L Convertible
'89 Silver Anniversary 5.0LX
I love the smell of Zaino in the morning....

07-21-2001, 05:15 PM	#1
mustang_marc MFFL! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Carrollton Posts: 14,806	So do you prefer to hand wax your car or use a buffer? Did the hand wax today and spend a good 2 hours just on the waxing. Any negatives to using a buffer? I think I'm gonna go that route next time.

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07-21-2001, 05:27 PM	#2
96MYSTIC Television taste funny Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Aubrey Posts: 3,243	I hand wax the car. Remove the wax with one of those 100% cotton towels. Finally, I shine it up with the buffer with one of those super soft bonnets. If you use the buffer to do it all........don't, or at least apply the wax by hand. Just my $.02

07-21-2001, 05:56 PM	#3
Matt93Cobra I drive a fookin Honda Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The Colony Posts: 5,586	Strictly hand waxing for my car. Zaino brotha! ------------------ Matt 93 Teal Cobra Kenne Bell Blowzilla

07-21-2001, 07:10 PM	#4
bard Lifer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Frisco Posts: 4,398	Easy to fugg up a good paint job with a buffer. Leave it for the pros or practice on something you won't regret burning through to the primer on. ------------------ Bard 94 GT Conv bard@ramfm.org

07-21-2001, 08:29 PM	#5
Hawk97gt Guest Posts: n/a	Nothing beats a good hand job!~

07-21-2001, 08:33 PM	#6
Who Needs 8 Big Ol' Bear Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: A little here, a little there . . . Posts: 14,647	On My Old Probe, I used a Buffer and Wax But only Zanio for the Buick!!! And the only way to do Zanio properly is by hand, but it doesn't take as much effort as waxing!!!

07-21-2001, 08:34 PM	#7
76 Maverick time is never served Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: denton Posts: 2,646	Are you sure we are talking about the car here? ------------------ 76 Maverick 88 302 F CAM, PERFORMER AIR GAP INTAKE, MALLORY IGNITION, C4 WITH 3500 STALL, 4.10 GEARS WITH LOCKER AND MUCH MORE TO COME.

07-21-2001, 08:40 PM	#8
Gear_Jammer Have good and get give!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: A DFW area courthouse near you... Posts: 2,196	Zaino by hand blows everything else away IMHO... ------------------ It has a few little goodies on it that make it go VROOM!!!

07-21-2001, 09:08 PM	#9
92GreenMonster The Dude Abides Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Beer Posts: 3,201	I just keep mine under a cover at my parents house since it never runs anyways. But when it used to run I used the buffer (I think) my Dad got. I'm not sure if it's a buffer or not, but it was designed specifically for waxing cars, so there's not a risk of burning up paint (it doesn't spin very fast and the pad is very soft). Someday if I'm ever out of debt I'm going to give Zaino a try, but until then, buffer it is! BTW, how long do you have to wait before washing or waxing a newly painted fiberglass hood (also sitting in the garage)? ------------------ '92LX hatch, NOS Big Shot (set at 150hp), 302 w/TFS Street Heats, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Crane cam (.499int /.510exh), Crower 1.6rr, 65mmTB/EGR, March U/D Pullies, Fluidampr Balancer, Pro-M 75mm Maf w/ Optimizer, SVO 30lb injectors, 255lph intank pump, MSD 6AL ignition, MSD Blaster 3 coil, MAC short headers, FMS King Cobra clutch, 3.73 gears, SVO upper arms, HPM Megabite Jr. lowers, Moser forged axles, air pump removed 284.0 rwhp / 306.7 rwtq N/A 400.9 rwhp / 463.1 rwtq NOS

07-21-2001, 09:34 PM	#10
Beej Full of shit Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Anyone wanna chat with a fat man, click below. Posts: 16,639	Im a hand man, I like to do it by hand, not as hard on the paint, and I dont think the buffer is that much quicker. ------------------ DarkPony's Page 98 Black GT, 5 speed, Black Leather, Konig Villans(17X8 17X9), Nitto 555-R's Drag Radials, Bassani x/cats, Mac Pro-Dumps, Steeda Timing adj. 16deg., ASP Balanced Pullies, Pro-M Bullet, Eibach Sprotlines, K%N, Accell Coil Packs, Crane 8.5mm Fire Wires, FRPP 70MM Throttle Body, Pro-5.0, Autometer Shiftlite, 35th Aniv. Dash Bezel, Painted trim accents, Bad Driver Mod. 221RWHP 1/8th 296RWTQ 9.30@76.5

07-22-2001, 12:41 AM	#11
Merkur Hanging on ropes Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: sha-ca-ga Posts: 2,001	I use a random orbital buffer with a foam pad for application and my hands to remove and buff. its just a time saver. i'll ussualy do 2-3 coats at a time. otherwise it would take to long and i would only do one in an afternoon. ------------------

07-22-2001, 02:09 AM	#12
evil jose Rolling with the homies Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oak Cliff... that's my hood... Posts: 42,418	Moving this over to the The Detail Shop for further discussion. ------------------ - Jose Co-Founder DFW Stangs http://www.dfwstangs.net "Is it because I'm Mexican?????"

07-23-2001, 12:40 AM	#13
Tang350 Guest Posts: n/a	If you insist on staying with old technology, like a carnuba wax then yes, a rotary buffer will save you some time in applying it. If you move up to Zaino, it's easily and best applied by hand. ------------------ Tang 350 66 GT350 Replica (drives like it's pissed off) 97 3.8L Convertible '89 Silver Anniversary 5.0LX I love the smell of Zaino in the morning....

07-23-2001, 05:38 PM	#15
Tang350 Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks, dude. Would you believe that the paint is 12 years old from the original restoration? And it wasn't a very good job anyway, it was just over sprayed instead of taking it down to the bare metal. So you can see what a few ( ) coats of Zaino can do! ------------------ Tang 350 66 GT350 Replica (drives like it's pissed off) 97 3.8L Convertible '89 Silver Anniversary 5.0LX I love the smell of Zaino in the morning....

07-23-2001, 05:40 PM	#16
Tang350 Guest Posts: n/a	Here's a good example of what I mean: ------------------ Tang 350 66 GT350 Replica (drives like it's pissed off) 97 3.8L Convertible '89 Silver Anniversary 5.0LX I love the smell of Zaino in the morning....

07-25-2001, 02:11 AM	#18
GE 6 Cliff Trail - Frisco / 1430 Byron Nelson Pkwy Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 30,844	I'm just not sold on the whole Zaino idea. I'm not sure how hard it'd be to match paint if you had got into a wreck and had to blend paint into an adjacent panel. Anyhow... marc, if you're going to use something like Meguair's, use a random orbital buffer. It greatly reduces the chances of burning paint. Don't use the buffer on edges or door handles. Rotary buffers are bad unless you are a professional detailer who works on cars every day. Random Orbital is the way to go for a good even application of regular wax. Zaino recommends not using a buffer but they're product is a whole nother ball of wax (haha, get it?!) Anyhow... Aside from Zaino... the key to it all is selecting a good polish to bring out the shine. The wax simply locks in what your polish did and protects the paint. Other things like swirl reducer, and other surface preps can be used... try a lil here and there and see what you like. Hope this helps.

07-25-2001, 05:51 PM	#19
Tang350 Guest Posts: n/a	Good advice GE, about noting the difference between polish and wax, it's very important. Oh, BTW, no problems with regard to newly painted panels using Zaino. All you'd do is just take the existing Zaino off the entire car, use isypropal (sp?) alcohol in a spray bottle and a good towel. The stuff comes right off and then you can start over again so the shine matches all panels on the car. ------------------ Tang 350 66 GT350 Replica (drives like it's pissed off) 97 3.8L Convertible '89 Silver Anniversary 5.0LX I love the smell of Zaino in the morning....