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Old 12-03-2002, 08:56 PM   #1
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PC Gamers: What's the vid card of choice these days?

I'm a bit out of the loop. Used to game all the time but since my roommate's PC blew up a year or two ago, hardly ever. He just got a new one so I need to upgrade! Anyways what's the biggest and baddest these days? I've heard that the ATI Radeon 9700 is good. Is it better than nVidia's GeForces? Which GeForce to get? Someone told me (and I'm not sure if he's a reliable source on this topic or not) that the GeForce 3's weren't very good. 2's are better and 4's are best?

Anyway anything will probably be better than what I'm on now... nVidia TnT 2 w/ 32 megs

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Old 12-03-2002, 09:25 PM   #2
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Nvidia Geforce 4 TI4200 is THE card to get for the money right now.
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Old 12-03-2002, 09:28 PM   #3
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ATI Radeon 9700 with 128MB is the best out there at the moment. But nVidia will be putting out a new card next month, the FX or something like that that will be kick ass. But, it is gonna be mondo expensive.

This from someone who programs games for a living (not me unfortunately) and has the inside skinny on all the cards.
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Old 12-03-2002, 09:29 PM   #4
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Nvidia Geforce 4 TI4200 is THE card to get for the money right now.

Pfftt..... so last week.
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Old 12-04-2002, 01:56 AM   #5
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Nvidia Geforce 4 TI4200 is THE card to get for the money right now.
yep best bang for the buck... not the best mind you... but for the money? oh hell yeah.
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Old 12-04-2002, 02:30 AM   #6
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yep best bang for the buck... not the best mind you... but for the money? oh hell yeah.
That's kinda what i'm looking for...bang for the buck. I see Radeon 9000 w/ 128 megs for $95.
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Old 12-04-2002, 03:49 AM   #7
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Pfftt..... so last week.
ATI vs. Nvidia, please, like thats a hard choice.

$169 RADEON 9700 Pro
$113 - GeForce4 TI 4200 64MB <-- faster then the 128mb version

Which would you choose? With the money you save, you can buy almost a gig of pc133 ram, too. Nvidia is the way to go.
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Old 12-04-2002, 05:19 AM   #8
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Donot get and ATI card other than for 2D work and video editing, there Direct 3D drivers and OpenGL drivers blow. Go with a Nvidia based Geforce 4 Ti series, any of them will give you plenty of oomph and they are 100% compatible with all motherboards and games out there. ATI is buggy on thier driver set and i dealt alot with thier cards.
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Old 12-04-2002, 10:31 AM   #9
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ATI vs. Nvidia, please, like thats a hard choice.

$169 RADEON 9700 Pro
$113 - GeForce4 TI 4200 64MB <-- faster then the 128mb version

Which would you choose? With the money you save, you can buy almost a gig of pc133 ram, too. Nvidia is the way to go.
Sorry, the $50 difference wasn't worth it. Hell I can get a GeForce4TI for free, so he difference for me was $150.

Why the hell would I need a gig of RAM.

My game system is a P4 2.5Ghz, 512MB RAM, ATI RADEON 9700Pro, DirectX 8.1, XP Pro. More than adequate.

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Donot get and ATI card other than for 2D work and video editing, there Direct 3D drivers and OpenGL drivers blow. Go with a Nvidia based Geforce 4 Ti series, any of them will give you plenty of oomph and they are 100% compatible with all motherboards and games out there. ATI is buggy on thier driver set and i dealt alot with thier cards.
Erfan, please tell me what tests you ran. I have both cards. Your analysis is interesting. I say this because if someone would say "what card should I get for 2D?" I would have said the GeForce. They cards are similiar enough there isn't a close choice.

If you are looking for the fastest gaming card (and $50 bucks doesn't break the bank), then RADEON is the way to go. Hell, the RADEON kicks GeForce's ass on NVIDIA's own 3D test utility!

The only area feature wise that the GeForce wins over the RADEON is is memory clock frequency, and that is only by 30Mhz. Memory bandwidth is almost doubled on the RADEON, GPU clock frequency is 25Mhz higher, double the vertex shaders on the RADEON, double the pixel pipelines on the RADEON.

If you want THE best gaming card out at the moment (and $50 bucks doesn't break the bank), the RADEON card wins the 3D Wars.

But, like I said, NVIDIA's new card will be out soon, it might be worth it to wait and see what their new card can do.

Hell, I even own NVIDIA stock and have an ATI card in my gaming system.
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Old 12-04-2002, 10:55 AM   #10
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GeForce4TI for free
Get me a GeForce 4 TI for free please.
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Old 12-04-2002, 11:08 AM   #11
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Get me a GeForce 4 TI for free please.
Hmmm... I'll see what I can do. What do you got for trade?

Hey, I getting a 768Kbs/1.5Mbs ADSL line at the new house. I might be setting up a Linux box to host email and a backup server or two. Maybe I can trade an hour or so of your time for it. I'll setup the initial box, you can tweak the setup.
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Old 12-04-2002, 11:37 AM   #12
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Ok, that card is not worth $300, I was WAY off on the pricing, the lowest I have found is $297. Get the TI4200 and buy a faster cpu too lol
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Old 12-04-2002, 11:49 AM   #13
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Ok, that card is not worth $300, I was WAY off on the pricing, the lowest I have found is $297. Get the TI4200 and buy a faster cpu too lol
Mine was $150.

But, after Christmas, after the new NVIDIA card comes out, the price will drop significantly in the coming months.
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Old 12-04-2002, 09:05 PM   #14
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Mine was $150.
Is that from a hookup, or did you find it somewhere that cheap? Either way, who/how?
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Old 12-05-2002, 12:04 AM   #15
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I got the visiontek geforce4 ti 4600 128 ddr for 150 bucks.
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