Want to go to a carb setup on my 94 GT

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 02:41 PM

I need suggestions on an intake and Carb setup for my 94 GT

I have been told by three sources now, all of which I trust, that getting my current
setup to run correctly is going to be difficult, and that when it comes down to the
$$$ it would be cheaper and easier to change from EFI to a Carb

Otherwise I'm looking at trying to find an ECM from a 95 Cobra, and even then
it wont be a perfect match for me, but closest I'll get

SO..... what intake and carb would you run with Trick FLow high port heads
and an F-cam among other mods ???

Car-less Chris · 03-09-2010, 03:24 PM

just have it tuned and be done with it.. i can have it tuned and runs great let me know..

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 03:28 PM

I was told that a sinple tune wouldnt do much for my car, with whats done to it
bieng a 94-95 5.0 I have had it said many times that this car is not going to react well at
all to the changes I have due to the control the ECM has over everything
so without changing the ECM I'm never going to get it to run right

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 03:34 PM

If staying with the EFI setup is such a + then some one trade me my fuel injection stuff for
what ever I'll need to switch to a carb set up.....

Denny · 03-09-2010, 03:38 PM

Losing efficiency and value all in one punch! LOL

Just take it to Gearheads and be completely happy in a couple of hours.

whiteboy · 03-09-2010, 03:40 PM

A cobra eec is not the fix. Throwing a carb on it is junk

Car-less Chris · 03-09-2010, 03:42 PM

with a sct chip it can all be corrected and run fine and perform to its fulliest..call me

1lo94 · 03-09-2010, 03:48 PM

mine is a heavily modified 95 car with stock ecm, travis at gearheads tuned and not one single isssue with it after that! stay with the efi and get a good dyno tune and be done with it

Txstang1 · 03-09-2010, 04:03 PM

Go with a 600-650 holley DP and an airgap intake. If u sell all your fi stuff, u can buy all the carb stuff new and go just as fast or faster than efi.

Denny · 03-09-2010, 04:06 PM

Might as well get a dual plane and a quadrajet.

ELVIS · 03-09-2010, 04:12 PM

yep from my understanding all you need is a good tune and tuner.

god bless.

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 04:20 PM

I have some one in mind for the Tune, just money is an issue right now
I'm a broke MoFo... so I considered selling my EFI stuff and buying parts to go Carb

That was my main reason, plus with Carb'd I can tune it myself, no computer needed

I just dont have the equipment, know how, or money to tune EFI right now

Sean88gt · 03-09-2010, 04:22 PM

Pics of the car? I'll buy it and you can carb something else.

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 04:26 PM

pics and info in the forsale section 94 GT

Dont want to sell it, but am tired of it sitting here not beign able to enjoy it

If I get it runnning right it stays if not, bye bye !! LOL

KADUKU · 03-09-2010, 04:38 PM

It would be easier to just get it tuned, but there is nothing wrong with a good carb set up. is it your daily if it is you might want to keep the efi. my stang currently has a carb set up and like the way it runs but its not my daily.

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 04:40 PM

not my daily, I got the mighty V6 stang for that LOL

This is a toy, but toys are only fun if you get to play with them

KADUKU · 03-09-2010, 04:56 PM

Then carb would be fine just get a 600-650 carb and edel. rpm intake. you might need to do some work on the fuel system carbs require less psi then efi.

Todd · 03-09-2010, 05:17 PM

if you go carb, get that Weiand Stealth intake and use a 650 double pumper on top of that. 750 will be a little too much on that small of an engine and the cam is only good to about 6500RPM.

You are going to have to swap out the fuel pump, and you will need to either get a sump, or a 1985 carbed mustang pickup tube for the tank, and all new fuel lines, plus a regulator and a carb type fuel pump.

It is not just an intake and carb swap-in. But once you get it done, you will atomize the fuel instead of just squirting it in there, and you will get a slight cooling effect through the venturis of the carb.

Carbs can be a lot of fun, but they can also be a bit of work. But if it is a toy then it is not that big a deal.

After that, save up and throw a turbo on there too!

95snake · 03-09-2010, 06:03 PM

Stay FI and just get it tuned.

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 06:04 PM

If I had the money for a tune I would have tried that by now !!!

95snake · 03-09-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DTM_Motorsports

If I had the money for a tune I would have tried that by now !!!

Your gonna run into alot of parts, distributor, ignition, intake, carb. It can be done, but why, there are plenty of guys on here running a 94-95 car with as many mods as you have done. Just start saving. You will be happier in the long run with just a tune.

71chevellejohn · 03-09-2010, 06:10 PM

What is this "long list of mods" that is so outragesous that a tune is so impossible???

I was carb-only up until I bought my 87GT. Now I won't go back.
Tuning with a keyboard > Tuning with a screwdriver

BTW, have you never heard of "you gotta pay to play"??

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 71chevellejohn

BTW, have you never heard of "you gotta pay to play"??

Yes I have, but I lost my position at work due to lay offs and took a HUGE
pay cut, so the money I had planned on spending on it I no longer have

Had I known I wouldnt be able to afford to get the car running right I would
NEVER have bought one needing so much attention

I had no say so in my loss of income, I wouldnt buy a car like this if I knew
I'd be broke. Thats why I've tried to find something ready to run to trade it for, jsut have had no luck, so until then I'll keep the hope alive for either a trade I like
or for the slim chance of getting this one running right

95snake · 03-09-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DTM_Motorsports

Yes I have, but I lost my position at work due to lay offs and took a HUGE
pay cut, so the money I had planned on spending on it I no longer have

Had I known I wouldnt be able to afford to get the car running right I would
NEVER have bought one needing so much attention

I had no say so in my loss of income, I wouldnt buy a car like this if I knew
I'd be broke. Thats why I've tried to find something ready to run to trade it for, jsut have had no luck, so until then I'll keep the hope alive for either a trade I like
or for the slim chance of getting this one running right

If its not your daily then dont worry about it, wait until you have the cash. Dont write the car off yet. I am there right now. What extra cash I had to spend on the lightning, now has to go to updating my wifes wrecked car.

Big A · 03-09-2010, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DTM_Motorsports

If I had the money for a tune I would have tried that by now !!!

If you don't have money now for a proper tune, what happens in a few months when you hole a piston or spin a rod bearing?

butt86 · 03-09-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DTM_Motorsports

so until then I'll keep the hope alive for either a trade I like
or for the slim chance of getting this one running right

trade it for mine? all you need to do is replace the iac and bleed the brakes!

and you shouldnt even consider carbing it if you dont have the money/time to get it tuned, or running right, its gonna take alot more money in both the short term and long term.

Sickpony · 03-09-2010, 07:37 PM

you definitely will spend alot on cenverting to a carb by the time you get all of the ignition stuff too.....I love my carb'd car but fuel injection is much more user friendly.

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sickpony

you definitely will spend alot on cenverting to a carb by the time you get all of the ignition stuff too.....I love my carb'd car but fuel injection is much more user friendly.

More user friendly if you have the proper equiment to tune the thing
which I dont

I can tune a carb'd car with basic tools

It was just a thought, like the many other I have about this car on a daily basis

For me it's like having a girl you really wanna fuck, but she is on her period
constantly yeah there are still ways to enjoy her, but you can't ride her the
way you REALLY want to lol

How do you make yourself wait for a day that you have no idea will ever come

Sickpony · 03-09-2010, 08:18 PM

well in that case an rpm air gap or reg rpm if it is more street, victor jr if you want to run the piss out of it all of the time. IMO a 600 carb is too small 650 is a good happy medium. I recently converted my 650 dp to a 750 with all of proforms stuff (works good) the 650 baseplate is the same as a 750 so if you want to upgrade later it is cheaper. i dont have as much cam or heads as you and I am running the 750 carb with a performer rpm intake, small cam, aluminum heads, msd pro billet dist- so it is plug and play with the msd 6al box. My car runs fine for a daily and weekend warrior.

whiteboy · 03-09-2010, 08:25 PM

it will never pass inspection. The value will be cut in half.

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 08:34 PM

it wont pass inspection now !!
Thats why it will be getting registered out of state
The house I own is in Arkansas, and we have no state inspection there

so thats not a concern

and evidently it isnt worth much now, cuz I have had no serious offers cash or trade anywhere near what I was asking for it so it's value bbieng cut isnt a huge deal either

Ayway I have no idea what I'm going to do with it, if my money situation chages I'm
sure I'll shell out for a tune and see what that does, just not an option right now

so until then I'll keep trying other things I can manage

Cooter · 03-09-2010, 08:37 PM

lol @ your radical Fcam combo!

how on earth will anyone ever tune it?!

Cooter · 03-09-2010, 08:38 PM

FWIW, if you can legally put a carb on it, I've got no problem w/ that... I love carbs

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooter

lol @ your radical Fcam combo!

how on earth will anyone ever tune it?!

Yeah? I didnt choose the cam I'd think about changing that too if it were an
option $$$ wise right now too

ShaunT · 03-09-2010, 08:50 PM

I can cam you with something that not only makes considerably more power than the F cam, but is also FAR friendlier on the tune side of things.

OUtside of that, a Weiand Stealth and a 650 will work fine with a one inch thick 4 hole carb spacer. Start with around 72 jets in the front for a basline to jump from. Prob going to only want about a 4.5 power valve. I would stick with a 30CC accelerator pump.

The 600 square bore vac sec Holley's have a very lean idle circut and you will have to drill at least a .070 by-pass air hole in each primary throttle blade to get it to idle with that cam. And you will have to do some serious metering block mods to get the idle fuel happy.

For a street car, you'll have much more of the best of both worlds with a spread bore carb with its small and atomization friendly primaries than you will a square bore piece. It will be a much more responsive and power making carb when you are driving on the primaries. And it will have a much steadier fuel curve and hence be MUCH easier to tune and manage.

MrEd · 03-09-2010, 08:55 PM

dont put a carb on it.
it then becomes a $1500-$2000 car.
TAKE IT TO GEAR HEADS!!!!
it will cost you just as much to convert it to carb,and you could save yourself alot more.
remember your parts are junk to anyone else,so keep what you got.
CARB-$700
INTAKE-$250
you do the math!!!!!!!!!!

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 09:04 PM

Ok, Ok, Ok, guess I'll just leave it alone

I just hate knowing that it might be sitting in the driveway for the next year because of a
F-ing tune

I guess more than anything I am pissed at myself for buying a car that wasnt ready to run

but like I said, I had no idea I was going to get laid off from work or I would have spent the
money on something else....

I really am not good at bieng patient when I know I'll have to look at it every day for the next
year or so just sitting there because of something everyone seems to think it such a simple fix

a tune may not sound like a big deal to you guys, but when you have NO $$$ after basic bills the cost is huge...

If I could ever get the F-ing title to the 2000 V6 stang I have I could sell it and get the GT fixed
up GOOD but I cant sell it for more than scrap without a title
If

MrEd · 03-09-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DTM_Motorsports

Ok, Ok, Ok, guess I'll just leave it alone

I just hate knowing that it might be sitting in the driveway for the next year because of a
F-ing tune

I guess more than anything I am pissed at myself for buying a car that wasnt ready to run

but like I said, I had no idea I was going to get laid off from work or I would have spent the
money on something else....

I really am not good at bieng patient when I know I'll have to look at it every day for the next
year or so just sitting there because of something everyone seems to think it such a simple fix

a tune may not sound like a big deal to you guys, but when you have NO $$$ after basic bills the cost is huge...

If I could ever get the F-ing title to the 2000 V6 stang I have I could sell it and get the GT fixed
up GOOD but I cant sell it for more than scrap without a title
If

where has you gonna get the money to go carbed????

DTM_Motorsports · 03-09-2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MrEd

where has you gonna get the money to go carbed????

by selling all the EFI related stuff

MrEd · 03-09-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DTM_Motorsports

by selling all the EFI related stuff

wrong answer.
as i stated your parts are junk.

RuStYpNuS · 03-09-2010, 09:21 PM

do you have pics of the car???? If so send them to gqfromgp@msn.com as well as asking price. i might be able to find you a mustang to trade for.......just a thought

prochargedpony · 03-10-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DTM_Motorsports

by selling all the EFI related stuff

a simple tune will fix it, you have nothing on your car that hasn't been done on a 94/95 car all day long. Going carb will put you in even more problems, if you can't tune a simple efi car, tuning your carb will be just as much fun and pose just as many problems if not more. I offered to help you get it running if you want to swing by.

95snake · 03-10-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by prochargedpony

a simple tune will fix it, you have nothing on your car that hasn't been done on a 94/95 car all day long. Going carb will put you in even more problems, if you can't tune a simple efi car, tuning your carb will be just as much fun and pose just as many problems if not more. I offered to help you get it running if you want to swing by.

I even told him about a 60.00 part that he could buy that would get him by. He just doesnt want to listen to us. Id even be willing to buy it and if it doesnt work, Ill use it on my L.

prochargedpony · 03-10-2010, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 95snake

I even told him about a 60.00 part that he could buy that would get him by. He just doesnt want to listen to us. Id even be willing to buy it and if it doesnt work, Ill use it on my L.

nope you can only offer to help so many times, honestly with alittle patience you can do all the basic tuning to it, maf reclocking, timing, fp and checking for vacuum leaks. 94-95 cars are a pain in the ass but it can be done with patience took me 3 days of messing with everything to get her running right, I drive my car daily 35 miles each way and I average about 21mpg taking 635 to 75 down to mckinney, so pretty much stop and go.

95snake · 03-10-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by prochargedpony

nope you can only offer to help so many times, honestly with alittle patience you can do all the basic tuning to it, maf reclocking, timing, fp and checking for vacuum leaks. 94-95 cars are a pain in the ass but it can be done with patience took me 3 days of messing with everything to get her running right, I drive my car daily 35 miles each way and I average about 21mpg taking 635 to 75 down to mckinney, so pretty much stop and go.

I got by for 7 years with the part I am telling him about. I never had to have my car tuned. It would be alot cheaper of a try, and I would be willing to install it, and mess with it. If it didnt work, I would give him the money for the part. I have nothing but good luck with the part I am talking about. I daily drove a mid 7 sec 1/8th mile N/A car everyday. I averaged 18 with the a/c running and full weight. Going carb is not gonna solve his problems. If its really that bad, then he just needs to tune it. I know with the F cam my 93 wouldnt idle worth a shit at first.

prochargedpony · 03-10-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 95snake

I got by for 7 years with the part I am telling him about. I never had to have my car tuned. It would be alot cheaper of a try, and I would be willing to install it, and mess with it. If it didnt work, I would give him the money for the part. I have nothing but good luck with the part I am talking about. I daily drove a mid 7 sec 1/8th mile N/A car everyday. I averaged 18 with the a/c running and full weight. Going carb is not gonna solve his problems. If its really that bad, then he just needs to tune it. I know with the F cam my 93 wouldnt idle worth a shit at first.

F cam does take some patience but it can work. I dont' think it really is that bad, because he said somestimes it runs awesome then sometimes it doesn't. Sounds like the computer is freaking out, and going into rich mode and dumping fuel. Mine did that when I put the cam and intake and injectors and maf, plus he has a junk ass 75mm bullet maf, same as me and they have to be clocked to work on the car.

95snake · 03-10-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by prochargedpony

F cam does take some patience but it can work. I dont' think it really is that bad, because he said somestimes it runs awesome then sometimes it doesn't. Sounds like the computer is freaking out, and going into rich mode and dumping fuel. Mine did that when I put the cam and intake and injectors and maf, plus he has a junk ass 75mm bullet maf, same as me and they have to be clocked to work on the car.

With the F cam the car wouldnt idle at all. You had to constantly give it gas or it would die. It ran like a raped ape, but it wasnt streetable. We actually picked up the part from the old fox lake in California, and wow what a difference. I even bought one for my last cobra, because it had idling issues with a smaller cam. I was able to smooth it out perfectly. I am with you on the computer freaking out. The 94-95 computers are hard to get around without a tune.

prochargedpony · 03-10-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 95snake

With the F cam the car wouldnt idle at all. You had to constantly give it gas or it would die. It ran like a raped ape, but it wasnt streetable. We actually picked up the part from the old fox lake in California, and wow what a difference. I even bought one for my last cobra, because it had idling issues with a smaller cam. I was able to smooth it out perfectly. I am with you on the computer freaking out. The 94-95 computers are hard to get around without a tune.

are you talking about the maf mafia??

95snake · 03-10-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by prochargedpony

are you talking about the maf mafia??

No this is it.
http://k-mansparts.com/items/perform...39a-detail.htm

DTM_Motorsports · 03-10-2010, 06:53 PM

Explain this "Clocking the MAF"

03-09-2010, 02:41 PM	#1
DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	Want to go to a carb setup on my 94 GT I need suggestions on an intake and Carb setup for my 94 GT I have been told by three sources now, all of which I trust, that getting my current setup to run correctly is going to be difficult, and that when it comes down to the $$$ it would be cheaper and easier to change from EFI to a Carb Otherwise I'm looking at trying to find an ECM from a 95 Cobra, and even then it wont be a perfect match for me, but closest I'll get SO..... what intake and carb would you run with Trick FLow high port heads and an F-cam among other mods ??? __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

03-09-2010, 03:24 PM	#2
Car-less Chris parts pusher Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: the fastest sn95 cobra in garland!! Posts: 21,940	just have it tuned and be done with it.. i can have it tuned and runs great let me know.. __________________ Looking for a 1986 mustang gt.... 1996 Mystic Cobra (Chamillionare) #1224 of 2000 2006 13.50 index Texas Fastest Streetcar Shootout Champion 2008 13.00 index Texas Fastest Streetcar Shootout Runner-up 2008 Champion "Grocery Getter" class at the DFWstangs Summer Cruise 214-881-4030 Car-less Chris Hotline

03-09-2010, 03:28 PM	#3
DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	I was told that a sinple tune wouldnt do much for my car, with whats done to it bieng a 94-95 5.0 I have had it said many times that this car is not going to react well at all to the changes I have due to the control the ECM has over everything so without changing the ECM I'm never going to get it to run right __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

03-09-2010, 03:34 PM	#4
DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	If staying with the EFI setup is such a + then some one trade me my fuel injection stuff for what ever I'll need to switch to a carb set up..... __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

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whiteboy Foxbody King Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 16,268	A cobra eec is not the fix. Throwing a carb on it is junk __________________ 2003 Saleen speedster #666

03-09-2010, 03:38 PM	#5
Denny Out Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 41,910	Losing efficiency and value all in one punch! LOL Just take it to Gearheads and be completely happy in a couple of hours.

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Car-less Chris parts pusher Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: the fastest sn95 cobra in garland!! Posts: 21,940	with a sct chip it can all be corrected and run fine and perform to its fulliest..call me __________________ Looking for a 1986 mustang gt.... 1996 Mystic Cobra (Chamillionare) #1224 of 2000 2006 13.50 index Texas Fastest Streetcar Shootout Champion 2008 13.00 index Texas Fastest Streetcar Shootout Runner-up 2008 Champion "Grocery Getter" class at the DFWstangs Summer Cruise 214-881-4030 Car-less Chris Hotline

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1lo94 Time Served Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: abilene Posts: 690	mine is a heavily modified 95 car with stock ecm, travis at gearheads tuned and not one single isssue with it after that! stay with the efi and get a good dyno tune and be done with it __________________ 1995 GT: HEADS, CAM AND A LIL BOOST....NUMBERS COMING SOON 2000 GT: EXHAUST, HOOD, BUMPER SPRINGS AND WHEELS...GIRLS CAR

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Txstang1 gluteus maximus man Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sechse Sachse Posts: 10,030	Go with a 600-650 holley DP and an airgap intake. If u sell all your fi stuff, u can buy all the carb stuff new and go just as fast or faster than efi. __________________ My goal in life is to not arrive at the grave in a well preserved body. but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy shit!!!.. what a ride!" Ladies Shoei helmet http://www.dfwstangs.net/classifieds...product=126356 Icon leather jacket http://www.dfwstangs.net/classifieds...product=126353 06 CBR1000rr http://www.dfwstangs.net/classifieds...product=124402

03-09-2010, 04:06 PM	#10
Denny Out Join Date: Apr 2000 Posts: 41,910	Might as well get a dual plane and a quadrajet.

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ELVIS big head Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: leavin' louisiana in the broad daylight Posts: 12,785	yep from my understanding all you need is a good tune and tuner. god bless.

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DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	I have some one in mind for the Tune, just money is an issue right now I'm a broke MoFo... so I considered selling my EFI stuff and buying parts to go Carb That was my main reason, plus with Carb'd I can tune it myself, no computer needed I just dont have the equipment, know how, or money to tune EFI right now __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

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Sean88gt T-MINUS Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 28,003	Pics of the car? I'll buy it and you can carb something else. __________________ 1/19/09, the last day of Free America. Pericles "Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it. " "[T]he people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government and to reform, alter, or totally change the same when their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it." --Samuel Adams

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DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	pics and info in the forsale section 94 GT Dont want to sell it, but am tired of it sitting here not beign able to enjoy it If I get it runnning right it stays if not, bye bye !! LOL __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

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KADUKU Time Served Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ft.worth/Arlington Posts: 320	It would be easier to just get it tuned, but there is nothing wrong with a good carb set up. is it your daily if it is you might want to keep the efi. my stang currently has a carb set up and like the way it runs but its not my daily.

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DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	not my daily, I got the mighty V6 stang for that LOL This is a toy, but toys are only fun if you get to play with them __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

03-09-2010, 04:56 PM	#17
KADUKU Time Served Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ft.worth/Arlington Posts: 320	Then carb would be fine just get a 600-650 carb and edel. rpm intake. you might need to do some work on the fuel system carbs require less psi then efi.

03-09-2010, 05:17 PM	#18
Todd My Boy! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tyler, TX Posts: 5,435	if you go carb, get that Weiand Stealth intake and use a 650 double pumper on top of that. 750 will be a little too much on that small of an engine and the cam is only good to about 6500RPM. You are going to have to swap out the fuel pump, and you will need to either get a sump, or a 1985 carbed mustang pickup tube for the tank, and all new fuel lines, plus a regulator and a carb type fuel pump. It is not just an intake and carb swap-in. But once you get it done, you will atomize the fuel instead of just squirting it in there, and you will get a slight cooling effect through the venturis of the carb. Carbs can be a lot of fun, but they can also be a bit of work. But if it is a toy then it is not that big a deal. After that, save up and throw a turbo on there too! __________________ My Resurrected Turbo Mustang website: http://turbostangtodd.com/

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95snake Traditionalist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Americana Posts: 6,713	Stay FI and just get it tuned. __________________ 1967 RS SS Camaro 383/TH400 00 Jetta 1.8T 08 Cobalt 2.2 and a POS

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DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	If I had the money for a tune I would have tried that by now !!! __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

03-09-2010, 06:10 PM	#22
71chevellejohn 21st Century Digital Boy Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wardenclyffe Tower Posts: 6,299	What is this "long list of mods" that is so outragesous that a tune is so impossible??? I was carb-only up until I bought my 87GT. Now I won't go back. Tuning with a keyboard > Tuning with a screwdriver BTW, have you never heard of "you gotta pay to play"?? __________________ 1987 GT Roller For Sale Various Parts For Sale B+M T5 Shifter Spec Stage 3 Clutch Disc for a T-5 BBK Shorty HeadersMass Air Harness from LRS TKO-600MSD Pro Billet Dist. for SBC Compucar Nitrous Kit(wet) for EFI Mustang w/10# bottle 4-lug 15" Weld DraglitesBMW iPod interface kit(NIB) Holley Strip Annihilator Ignition Box

03-09-2010, 07:37 PM	#27
Sickpony Time Served Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mabank, TX Posts: 625	you definitely will spend alot on cenverting to a carb by the time you get all of the ignition stuff too.....I love my carb'd car but fuel injection is much more user friendly. __________________

03-09-2010, 08:18 PM	#29
Sickpony Time Served Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mabank, TX Posts: 625	well in that case an rpm air gap or reg rpm if it is more street, victor jr if you want to run the piss out of it all of the time. IMO a 600 carb is too small 650 is a good happy medium. I recently converted my 650 dp to a 750 with all of proforms stuff (works good) the 650 baseplate is the same as a 750 so if you want to upgrade later it is cheaper. i dont have as much cam or heads as you and I am running the 750 carb with a performer rpm intake, small cam, aluminum heads, msd pro billet dist- so it is plug and play with the msd 6al box. My car runs fine for a daily and weekend warrior. __________________

03-09-2010, 08:25 PM	#30
whiteboy Foxbody King Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 16,268	it will never pass inspection. The value will be cut in half. __________________ 2003 Saleen speedster #666

03-09-2010, 08:34 PM	#31
DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	it wont pass inspection now !! Thats why it will be getting registered out of state The house I own is in Arkansas, and we have no state inspection there so thats not a concern and evidently it isnt worth much now, cuz I have had no serious offers cash or trade anywhere near what I was asking for it so it's value bbieng cut isnt a huge deal either Ayway I have no idea what I'm going to do with it, if my money situation chages I'm sure I'll shell out for a tune and see what that does, just not an option right now so until then I'll keep trying other things I can manage __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

03-09-2010, 08:37 PM	#32
Cooter mannish boy Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: drunk on diesel Posts: 32,459	lol @ your radical Fcam combo! how on earth will anyone ever tune it?! __________________ got a diesel? I probably have a turbo for ya

03-09-2010, 08:38 PM	#33
Cooter mannish boy Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: drunk on diesel Posts: 32,459	FWIW, if you can legally put a carb on it, I've got no problem w/ that... I love carbs __________________ got a diesel? I probably have a turbo for ya

03-09-2010, 08:50 PM	#35
ShaunT Time Served Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Austin Posts: 673	I can cam you with something that not only makes considerably more power than the F cam, but is also FAR friendlier on the tune side of things. OUtside of that, a Weiand Stealth and a 650 will work fine with a one inch thick 4 hole carb spacer. Start with around 72 jets in the front for a basline to jump from. Prob going to only want about a 4.5 power valve. I would stick with a 30CC accelerator pump. The 600 square bore vac sec Holley's have a very lean idle circut and you will have to drill at least a .070 by-pass air hole in each primary throttle blade to get it to idle with that cam. And you will have to do some serious metering block mods to get the idle fuel happy. For a street car, you'll have much more of the best of both worlds with a spread bore carb with its small and atomization friendly primaries than you will a square bore piece. It will be a much more responsive and power making carb when you are driving on the primaries. And it will have a much steadier fuel curve and hence be MUCH easier to tune and manage. __________________ I'm only a Cam designer and full competition race engine builder. I don't know anything.

03-09-2010, 08:55 PM	#36
MrEd 23 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wylie Posts: 3,479	dont put a carb on it. it then becomes a $1500-$2000 car. TAKE IT TO GEAR HEADS!!!! it will cost you just as much to convert it to carb,and you could save yourself alot more. remember your parts are junk to anyone else,so keep what you got. CARB-$700 INTAKE-$250 you do the math!!!!!!!!!! __________________

03-09-2010, 09:04 PM	#37
DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	Ok, Ok, Ok, guess I'll just leave it alone I just hate knowing that it might be sitting in the driveway for the next year because of a F-ing tune I guess more than anything I am pissed at myself for buying a car that wasnt ready to run but like I said, I had no idea I was going to get laid off from work or I would have spent the money on something else.... I really am not good at bieng patient when I know I'll have to look at it every day for the next year or so just sitting there because of something everyone seems to think it such a simple fix a tune may not sound like a big deal to you guys, but when you have NO $$$ after basic bills the cost is huge... If I could ever get the F-ing title to the 2000 V6 stang I have I could sell it and get the GT fixed up GOOD but I cant sell it for more than scrap without a title If __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

03-09-2010, 09:21 PM	#41
RuStYpNuS I got that tetanus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 1,566	do you have pics of the car???? If so send them to gqfromgp@msn.com as well as asking price. i might be able to find you a mustang to trade for.......just a thought __________________ BIG ROOSTER RACING , we aint cluckin around !

03-10-2010, 06:53 PM	#50
DTM_Motorsports Time Served Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Richardson Tx. Posts: 488	Explain this "Clocking the MAF" __________________ 2000 V6 Bone stock stang

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