unemployment offically tops 10%...

[Stevo]

Discuss.

Stevo

[Vertnut]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Discuss.

Stevo

Barry's magic tricks aren't working?

[AL P]

Thank God Obama saved those 650K jobs or we would really be in trouble!!

[Vertnut]

Originally Posted by AL P

Thank God Obama saved those 650K jobs or we would really be in trouble!!

Saved or "created"...LOL!

[Lason]

It sucks, 1 in 10 people are unemployed and the 1 person we wish was unemployed (Obama) still has his job!

[darkgaijin]

Originally Posted by Lason

It sucks, 1 in 10 people are unemployed and the 1 person we wish was unemployed (Obama) still has his job!

don't worry, he will take another vacation next week... and the week after next...

big pimpin...

[Vertnut]

Originally Posted by darkgaijin

don't worry, he will take another vacation next week... and the week after next...

big pimpin...

Don't forget about him brushing up on that golf game!

[Stevo]

Originally Posted by Lason

It sucks, 1 in 10 people are unemployed and the 1 person we wish was unemployed (Obama) still has his job!

Actually, it;s more than that, 1 in 10 Americans are actively on unemployment... the number doesn't count those want/need to work that are un-employed and NOT on unemployment.

Stevo

[GhostTX]

Originally Posted by AL P

Thank God Obama saved those 650K jobs or we would really be in trouble!!

No doubt! We'd be at 10.21% otherwise!

[Adam_aoc]

yup... that poor Obama had to inherit this mess of an economy...
if people would just let him socialize the country everything would be ok and we would all be equal and working (for the state) and it would all be better!

[Vertnut]

Originally Posted by Adam_aoc

yup... that poor Obama had to inherit this mess of an economy...
if people would just let him socialize the country everything would be ok and we would all be equal and working (for the state) and it would all be better!

A chicken in every pot!

[AdamLX]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Actually, it;s more than that, 1 in 10 Americans are actively on unemployment... the number doesn't count those want/need to work that are un-employed and NOT on unemployment.

Stevo

Yep, that number is just under 18% I believe. So almost 1 out 5 people are unemployed, but not on benefits or they have run out.

[tazz007]

True unemployment rate.

http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/to...ady-at-20.aspx

http://investment-blog.net/panic-une...already-at-20/

http://www.dailyreckoning.com.au/us-...nt/2008/05/13/

[Sean88gt]

Thank God they rushed the stimulus bill through to cap the unemployment at 8%!!!!

Didn't account for the human element being scared by your policies, didja Barry?

[MR TINFOIL HAT]

So go ahead and say twenty percent if you want an accurate account.

[Mustangman_2000]

And hopefully this will be a driving force in him not getting re-elected. Well, this and the dozen or so other talking points he hasn't delivered on.

[That_Is_My_El_Camino]

Originally Posted by AL P

Thank God Obama saved those 650K jobs or we would really be in trouble!!

Originally Posted by Sean88gt

Thank God they rushed the stimulus bill through to cap the unemployment at 8%!!!!

Thank God I have a job!

[slow06]

Interesting chart comparing today's unelmployment to the Great Depression. He uses "U6" numbers, and explains why.

http://www.bearmarketcomparison.com/...yment-Rate.htm

[fast83]

and when obama was campaigning he said it wouldn't top 7% under his administration.

another FAIL by obama.

[GhostTX]

And how long ago were they exclaiming how great the stimulus bill was because it created...what? 300,000 jobs?

[Paladin]

I am sure the Messiah will just say that it would be even worse if he hadn't "saved" so many jobs.

Of course there is no way to calculate how many jobs have or have not been saved, but that won't stop him from claiming he saved a bunch, will it?

[Vertnut]

Originally Posted by Paladin

I am sure the Messiah will just say that it would be even worse if he hadn't "saved" so many jobs.

Of course there is no way to calculate how many jobs have or have not been saved, but that won't stop him from claiming he saved a bunch, will it?

Fox just reported that $4.5m of "stimulus money" went to a north Chicago school district and saved/created 450 jobs. The only problem is they only employ 290 teachers in the entire district. We are getting screwed, boys and girls.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by fast83

and when obama was campaigning he said it wouldn't top 7% under his administration.

another FAIL by obama.

I dislike every thing the guys tands for but even I won't be too hard on him for this claim and fail. I just chalk it up to his obvious amateur status.

[MR TINFOIL HAT]

Originally Posted by Vertnut

We are getting screwed, boys and girls.

Business as usual in Washington.

[MR TINFOIL HAT]

Originally Posted by Paladin

I dislike every thing the guys tands for but even I won't be too hard on him for this claim and fail. I just chalk it up to his obvious amateur status.

This "amateur" is anything but that. Obama has been groomed for this position and duty. The collapse of our country is his mission. When Obama signs America away in Copenhagen in 4 weeks the transparency they've been talking about will come true. It's quite transparent right now what's happening, but unfortunately we have a lot of people that still have "hope" in their heads, and reality is somewhere else.

[Sgt Beavis]

Originally Posted by Adam_aoc

yup... that poor Obama had to inherit this mess of an economy...
if people would just let him socialize the country everything would be ok and we would all be equal and working (for the state) and it would all be better!

I'm gonna call a spade a spade here.

There are several things GW and the Republican congress could have done to prevent the banking crisis that put us into this mess but most Republicans chose to do nothing.

On the flip side, there are are several things President Obama and the Democratic Congress could do to prevent this bull shit from happening again, but they continue to do nothing.

BOTH parties and administrations are licking Wall Street's balls while they fuck us up the ass.

[Vertnut]

Originally Posted by Sgt Beavis

I'm gonna call a spade a spade here.

There are several things GW and the Republican congress could have done to prevent the banking crisis that put us into this mess but most Republicans chose to do nothing.

On the flip side, there are are several things President Obama and the Democratic Congress could do to prevent this bull shit from happening again, but they continue to do nothing.

BOTH parties and administrations are licking Wall Street's balls while they fuck us up the ass.

I hope SOMEONE is getting some pleasure from this bullshit.

[MR TINFOIL HAT]

Originally Posted by Sgt Beavis

I'm gonna call a spade a spade here.

There are several things GW and the Republican congress could have done to prevent the banking crisis that put us into this mess but most Republicans chose to do nothing.

On the flip side, there are are several things President Obama and the Democratic Congress could do to prevent this bull shit from happening again, but they continue to do nothing.

BOTH parties and administrations are licking Wall Street's balls while they fuck us up the ass.

Yes, can we take we take our country back now is the only question left? Same shit smell as in the past just a different color wrapper.

[bullet]

Price you pay for letting a republican president for 8 years loot your 401k and bankrupt the country so wall street could get richer.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by MR TINFOIL HAT

This "amateur" is anything but that. Obama has been groomed for this position and duty. The collapse of our country is his mission. When Obama signs America away in Copenhagen in 4 weeks the transparency they've been talking about will come true. It's quite transparent right now what's happening, but unfortunately we have a lot of people that still have "hope" in their heads, and reality is somewhere else.

I get your point and all but I call it amateur hour because he went from hero status approval ratings to average Joe status in record time. He may have been groomed for this position early on in his life, but he has a done a remarkably poor job. 2010 will show just how poor it was for the Dems lose alot of seats and TRUE conservatives start to get elected in record numbers.

[MR TINFOIL HAT]

Originally Posted by bullet

Price you pay for letting a republican president for 8 years loot your 401k and bankrupt the country so wall street could get richer.

Too bad for you the left right blame game is as played out as Jordache. Let me help you out, they are all crooks. They can be left, right, up, down, orange, blue, white, yellow, black, it doesn't matter they all bow down to the same master.

[mikeb]

Originally Posted by Sgt Beavis

I'm gonna call a spade a spade here.

There are several things GW and the Republican congress could have done to prevent the banking crisis that put us into this mess but most Republicans chose to do nothing.

On the flip side, there are are several things President Obama and the Democratic Congress could do to prevent this bull shit from happening again, but they continue to do nothing.

BOTH parties and administrations are licking Wall Street's balls while they fuck us up the ass.

A year into his presidency and obama is *still* choosing to blame bush for his ongoing troubles. At what point does obama take responsibility?

Sure, the republicans had a free for all, and let a lot of things go, but the economy was pretty damm good, until the democrats took over congress. THEN it went to hell in a handbasket.

I agree with both parties sticking it to us.

The current dive toward socialism is really bothering me right now. The health bill with provisions to put americans in jail if they don't buy insurance, etc. Very worrisome.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by bullet

Price you pay for letting a republican president for 8 years loot your 401k and bankrupt the country so wall street could get richer.

WTF? You need to lay off the beer before posting dude. My 401K reached record highs while W was in office and the main thing that brought our economy down was the Dems forcing banks to give out loans to people who should have never been approved.

I sure wish Bush had stood up to them and warned us more vocally, but blaming only him is idiotic.

[bullet]

Originally Posted by MR TINFOIL HAT

Too bad for you the left right blame game is as played out as Jordache. Let me help you out, they are all crooks. They can be left, right, up, down, orange, blue, white, yellow, black, it doesn't matter they all bow down to the same master.

I agree.

Even if Mccain was president, guess what ? The rate would be the same or higher and your tax money would have been spent on war or more bailouts to big business.

[Fox466]

Originally Posted by mikeb

...
The current dive toward socialism is really bothering me right now. The health bill with provisions to put americans in jail if they don't buy insurance, etc. Very worrisome.

Sig check.

The train to hell is emitting more steam...

[bullet]

Originally Posted by Paladin

WTF? You need to lay off the beer before posting dude. My 401K reached record highs while W was in office and the main thing that brought our economy down was the Dems forcing banks to give out loans to people who should have never been approved.

I sure wish Bush had stood up to them and warned us more vocally, but blaming only him is idiotic.

Record highs ?

The market tanked 35% the last year your hero was president.

And return a whopping -18% over his entire term from start to finish.

Who owns the banks who made the loans ?

republicans or democrats ?


What party pushed for deregulation in lending standards and in wall street ?

[Hass]

Originally Posted by Paladin

WTF? You need to lay off the beer before posting dude. My 401K reached record highs while W was in office and the main thing that brought our economy down was the Dems forcing banks to give out loans to people who should have never been approved.

I sure wish Bush had stood up to them and warned us more vocally, but blaming only him is idiotic.

GTFO of here with these real facts!

[forever_frost]

Originally Posted by bullet

Record highs ?

The market tanked 35% the last year your hero was president.

And return a whopping -18% over his entire term from start to finish.

Who owns the banks who made the loans ?

republicans or democrats ?


What party pushed for deregulation in lending standards and in wall street ?

Actually, didn't "Stick it in Fatty" Clinton ease lending regulations and the Dems push to allow those who couldn't get a regular home loan to get one, even forcing banks to provide them?

[TexasDevilDog]

In a press conference today, the President claimed that the latest extension of unemployment benefits will not only help the unemployed, but the overall economy as recipients spend the money. If spending government-granted money really were a benefit to the economy, why not simply increase the amounts endlessly? Why limit the benefits to the unemployed? Let's make this recovery a real barn burner: send out million-dollar checks to everyone! Of course, what Obama and his economic advisors do not understand is that money spent by recipients of unemployment benefits is money not spent or invested by taxpayers. It's a transfer of wealth, not a creation on new wealth.

http://safehaven.com/article-14947.htm

[Vertnut]

Originally Posted by forever_frost

Actually, didn't "Stick it in Fatty" Clinton ease lending regulations and the Dems push to allow those who couldn't get a regular home loan to get one, even forcing banks to provide them?

The program started with Carter in '77, and ballooned under Clinton tremendously. Fannie Mae just lost ANOTHER $18 billion, and Freddie Mac just posted ANOTHER $5 billion loss. Some things never change.

[Stevo]

Originally Posted by bullet

Record highs ?

The market tanked 35% the last year your hero was president.

And return a whopping -18% over his entire term from start to finish.

Who owns the banks who made the loans ?

republicans or democrats ?


What party pushed for deregulation in lending standards and in wall street ?

Yeah, what ever you do, don't mention that this shit occurred shortly after your beloved democraps took control of congress and the senate. God forbid you actually lay the blame where it belongs.

Stevo

[big_tiger]

Originally Posted by GhostTX

And how long ago were they exclaiming how great the stimulus bill was because it created...what? 300,000 jobs?

Yea like buying one riding lawn mower created 50+ jobs. LOL

[Vertnut]

Originally Posted by Stevo

Yeah, what ever you do, don't mention that this shit occurred shortly after your beloved democraps took control of congress and the senate. God forbid you actually lay the blame where it belongs.

Stevo

What tickles me about bullet, is he's crowing about the market @10k, while the rest of the country (and economy) are going down the shitter. Forget 10.2% (18% ACTUAL) unemployment and unequaled corruption in all area's Congress and the whitehouse...the MARKET is UP!

[Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~]

pretty sad I was given the option to lose full time status/benefits or be gone 5 days a week and keep full time. Im actually glad to not be working in dallas,tx anymore yasll can have it!!!!

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by bullet

Record highs ?

The market tanked 35% the last year your hero was president.

And return a whopping -18% over his entire term from start to finish.

Who owns the banks who made the loans ?

republicans or democrats ?


What party pushed for deregulation in lending standards and in wall street ?

Who was president when the DOW went to it's all-time record high? Bush

Why did the market tank? Because the banks were forced to give out loans to people who could not afford them and who made them do that? Liberal Democrats and they were not stopped by Bush, which is why there is plenty of blame to go around.

So the Republicans own the banks according to you and they wanted the banks to give out high risk, low gain loans to people who could not afford them? Yeah, you must be another kooky RP supporter with that stupid logic. Am I right?

The true Republicans want free markets and free enterprise and less regulation. Do you agree that the government forced the banks to give out loans to people who could not afford them or not? If so, who forced them to do it?

If you don't agree with my very simple answer to a complex problem, please give your answers to your own questions.

[fast83]

can i get a "RON PAUL"?

shoulda
coulda
but didn't

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by fast83

can i get a "RON PAUL"?

shoulda
coulda
but didn't

So what did he do while he was in Congress to prevent all of this? How is a lifelong politican like him who was part of the problem going to solve it, when he couldn't/didn't do a damn thing about it for the last decade or longer he was in office? You RP nuthuggers keep talking baout how corrupt alll politicians are, but then want a longterm politican to solve it becuase you like him. How hypocritical and idiotic of you! Typical RP nuthugger says "I am okay with a lifelong politician as long as it is someone I like!"


You kooky RP nuthuggers crack me up!

[bullet]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Who was president when the DOW went to it's all-time record high? Bush

Why did the market tank? Because the banks were forced to give out loans to people who could not afford them and who made them do that? Liberal Democrats and they were not stopped by Bush, which is why there is plenty of blame to go around.

So the Republicans own the banks according to you and they wanted the banks to give out high risk, low gain loans to people who could not afford them? Yeah, you must be another kooky RP supporter with that stupid logic. Am I right?

The true Republicans want free markets and free enterprise and less regulation. Do you agree that the government forced the banks to give out loans to people who could not afford them or not? If so, who forced them to do it?

If you don't agree with my very simple answer to a complex problem, please give your answers to your own questions.

Which party represents more govt regulation and which one represents less ?


The correct answer to this simple question proves my point.


Govt forced banks to give out loans to people who could not afford them ?


Biggest crock of shit I have ever heard. GREED from wallstreet and DEREGULATION is what caused those loans to be wrote.




Yea it was the democrats fault 100%.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx...om=PL&index=58

[Vertnut]

Originally Posted by fast83

can i get a "RON PAUL"?

shoulda
coulda
but didn't

...and never will.

[bullet]

Originally Posted by fast83

can i get a "RON PAUL"?

shoulda
coulda
but didn't

I'd settle for a FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.
Something the party has not produced in 30+ years.