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Let the debate begin - 2010 Camaro SS vs 2010 GT500
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mexico racer
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gt500 ftw
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Lifer
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Too bad for Chevy they had to kill off the Z/28 which would have been more comparable to the GT500.
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Num say'n? (tm)
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Both too expensive, but since the federal guv-a-ment and the UAW own GM now, it'd be the Ford.
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Lifer
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Put $10,000 in mods in the SS and compare apples to apples.
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That's bullshit a stock Camaro cant run 12.9s stock. Just ask all the guys on dfwstangs LOL
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Ja Ja Ja Ja JEW UNIT!!
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i like the opening.. translate.. The last time we put a GT VS the comparable camaro..the GT got owned like the bitch it is and all the ford fanboys cried.. so we took the 2nd most powerfull and stupidly over priced blown mustang on the road VS the base factory V8 camaro so it could look like there was a mustang that did not FAIL.
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Ja Ja Ja Ja JEW UNIT!!
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lol..
$17k more.... 114 hp more... 12.8@115 VS12.9@110 personally i wouldnt be proud of that for guys
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Narcissistic fade away
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I don't understand the camaro vs. mustang debate. I mean, if you are a ford guy, you'd say "MUSTANG!". If you were a chevy guy, you'd say "CAMARO!"
Shit. To each his own, if you like it enough to buy it - knock yourself out. The debates are NEVER centered around anything but power and a drag race. last I checked, not "everyone" was concerned with what it does in the quarter, or how much power it has. If I wanted something fast, nice etc.. it wouldn't be american made.
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Lifer
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I am not a Ford or Chevrolet guy. I am a car guy. That was the most logical answer I could think of..
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Running into the 12's with a bone stock 30 something thousand dollar car is pretty cool.
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Ja Ja Ja Ja JEW UNIT!!
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Ja Ja Ja Ja JEW UNIT!!
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actually you >me in fan boi
![]() I have never owned a mustang.. i have always been a GM guy ![]() you SOLD a blown cobra to jump ship ![]() you jumped off the titanic and onto the USS Enterprise
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Chevy was going to release a Z/28 version of the new Camaro, but the plan has been cancelled due to (well hell you know) Anyways it was rumored to have the same engine as the new CTS V 550hp/560 tq
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I'm callin you out!
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It all depends on what you want. You throw some drag suspension and a twin turbo setup on the gt 500 and you have an 8 second ride with that same engine that only runs 12's at 115 from the factory. GT500 ftw.
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aka SSaladbar
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Ya. Just throw it on there. I mean..... Everyone's doing just that! LMSAO.
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Lifer
Join Date: Sep 2004
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We'll see what a D1 Procharged SS will do on a Ls3 shorly. The blowers only 6200 bux and capable of 1000 rwhp with the injectors and all. It'll make over 600 to the wheels with very minimal amounts of boost. Say 6#s with full exhaust and an abracadabra tune.
Go chevy go......
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I don't think you could go wrong with either car
. Both cars are fast, hot, and loud!
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Just a slow LS1 SS
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I'm callin you out!
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That's what I was thinking but thought maybe procharger did some major upgrades to the d1 lol.
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Lifer
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Thats just what CC told me, maybe he's been giving to much head at GearHeads
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Can't go - gotta work.
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There's someting about the GT500 that reaches out and grabs me, and nothing about the Camaro that does that. I won't say it's ugly anymore, and I won't say I'd never own one, but I can say the Mustang would have to be out of production first.
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The American Muscle rivalry will never die... We need this so the carmaker's come with something better than the other. It's been like this since the beggining of the muscle era.
IMO both cars are great but to expensive and heavy for the enthusiasts that appreciate and mod these cars. Some car fanatics can't see past their huge EGO's when it comes to brand loyalty... |
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Ego has nothing to do with it. Some bleed red. Some bleed blue.
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I like both cars, but for the price I'd rather have a 2LT C6.
Itd be about 37-38Kish, which is right in between the Camaro and the Shelby.
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![]() That said, this debate will forever be ongoing..your gonna have your pom pom's out for whomever your loyal too typically.
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Lifer
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GT500 plus DR's, plus a 2.8 KB, plus bolt ons and a tune is 900rwhp easy.
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NO NO NO, it should be DFWLS1's, CUMMINS, C6 VETTES.net |
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I don't have pom pom's for either. That was a logical statement. I am not a Ford or Chevy guy. I am a car guy. I appreciate all the well built high performance cars out there. I believe they are certain things each company does well and other things they are weak.
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Ja Ja Ja Ja JEW UNIT!!
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so blown 5.4 VS NA 6.2 yeah.. once an equivilent blower gets droped on the SS its over for the little garden snake.
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Ja Ja Ja Ja JEW UNIT!!
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no way in hell a D1 will break 1000 rwhp.. you would need an F1 to do that.
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Father of superstars!!!!!
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I thought the Gt500 had a 5.4 ??? lets compare the GT500 and the Ford GT to the ZR1 now that would be interesting!
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Boostaholic
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Oops, your right LOL ...nonetheless, I would not pay 50k for the GT500...I really don't like the looks of it. The motor, on the otherhand, is quite nice for what it is..a boost friendly application. Not sure the same can be said of the Camaro?
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Father of superstars!!!!!
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I thought the GT500 was going for 70-80K ???
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Lifer
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I would take a Shelby over a new Camaro and I am an LSx "fan boi". The Shelby looks just as good and has a much better platform to mod it and make huge power. Hell you don't even have to touch the bottom end on them
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Just a slow LS1 SS
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Nice...they are both bad ass cars..
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monkey see monkey do
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cant afford either so who cares.
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X2.
I can afford to build something to win, though.
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Lifer
Join Date: Oct 2005
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If someone gave me or I simply won one of them I'd just sell it and mod my own car. Overrated and def. over priced. Fug em both for what they are asking these days.
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Hamilton Racing Ownz U
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Um no, you are in 2007 time warp dude. Most of the new ones are selling under sticker at about 1000 over invoice. Theres one in GP right now fully loaded asking 50 and change, and another one on ebay at 49 buy now.
You could get one for 47-48 with less options. I was up a long time last night looking at prices and reading about em. Found a 08 with 2081 miles in Corpus for 35K. If I was working, Id be on a plane right now to go see it. Thats cheap.
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The best thing about the '10's is that they have knock sensor's (at least in my opinion). I do like the rearend much better than the prior GT500's. I'm not a big fan of the front fascia though. The interior though is a huge improvement over the 03-04's, but that can be said of all s197's.
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