What Supplements....

ThaLS1Kid · 04-08-2002, 11:03 AM

I work out regularly and try to watch what I eat, but I was looking into to using some supplements and was wondering what supplements/stackers you guys use or have had experience with and what you thought of them. Thanks for any advice given.

Xcessive · 04-08-2002, 02:25 PM

what are you trying to do?

do you want to build muscle or cut up

ThaLS1Kid · 04-08-2002, 10:50 PM

Well for the most part I am trying to do both, but I guess if I to pick one it would cut up.

96BluOvl · 04-09-2002, 11:33 PM

Try animal stak from universal nutrition \

Xcessive · 04-11-2002, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tha50Kid
Well for the most part I am trying to do both, but I guess if I to pick one it would cut up.

Its better to do one or the other

If you want to cut, find a ECA like Xenedrine or Hydroxycut
Do lots of cardio
Good diet> high protien, low carbs, and watch your calorie intake

04-17-2002, 07:41 AM

If I was you, I would get on the muscletech stack. It consists of Hydroxycut, Cell-tech, and Nitro-tech. I love it and have seen some good gains in my last couple of months of training. A good diet and cardio is the key. Its good to have a partner to motivate you to.

TEXWS6 · 04-17-2002, 03:58 PM

ok dude, you are just throwing your money down the drain....Hydroxycut and Cell-tech will basically cancel each other out....

Kelly

c_diddy · 04-20-2002, 03:49 PM

If u want to get a lil bigger i took a cycle of some 19-NOR andro and gained about 9 lbs. off of it. Im on this new shit called 1-AD and its probably one of the best andros u can find. Its about 70 bucks but the shit works really well.

TEXWS6 · 04-20-2002, 05:13 PM

IMO if you are gonna get on andro, you might as well take the real stuff, and how long have you been working out and how intense??

The Raven · 04-22-2002, 01:27 PM

You can do both (gain lean mass/lose bodyfat), but much more important than supplements to do so is a clean diet with the proper macronutrient ratio and the right amount of calories. As trite as it is, you are what you eat and without proper nutrition you will be just treading water and wasting you money on supplements. Your best friend should be protien and you have to lean how to manipulate carbs in an effort to keep your metaboliosm up and you muscles full of glycogen without excess that will turn to fat.

Wild Stallion · 04-27-2002, 07:35 AM

I'm just now getting back into the fitness scene, I am paying a trainer, who does not work for the gym, and he tells me that a good diet, a thermogenic supp, and pyruvate (sp) will give you a 5-7% body fat loss in the first month, and 2-3% in the 2nd month, Just what I've been told, I've done some reading and everything I read says that Pyruvate increases the fat loss by anywhere from 30-48% over a thermogenic alone. I'm starting it as of this morning. I'll let you know in a month how it turns out.

The Raven · 04-30-2002, 01:41 PM

Hmm, hadn't heard about Pyruvate. I'll hafta check it out, my diet starts next week.

Beej · 04-30-2002, 02:52 PM

Pyruvate is a great for body fat loss but only works in latter stages, It is very expensive, but does work.

The Raven · 04-30-2002, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkPony
Pyruvate is a great for body fat loss but only works in latter stages, It is very expensive, but does work.

Are you saying I'm fat?!

heh

Wild Stallion · 05-01-2002, 01:43 AM

Actually I have now lost 16 lbs, and am only in my third week, my body fat has gone from 27% to 24% in that time period and My energy levels are up to what I had 10 years ago. So my goal for a 5% body fat reduction in the first month are well in hand. I know it seems like a drastic loss, but then I used to have a 8% body fat at 208 lbs and ran 18-20 miles a week. If I get down to 15% body fat and hold at 225 or so, I will be a very happy man.

05-01-2002, 05:52 AM

Quote:

TEXWS6 ok dude, you are just throwing your money down the drain....Hydroxycut and Cell-tech will basically cancel each other out....

I happen to disagree with that statement, Hydroxycut and Cell-tech have been proven to be more effective when takin together. The muscletech stack is one, if not the best, supplement stack on the market today.

[CS]ls1haha · 05-01-2002, 08:05 AM

Winstrol.

Frogger · 05-01-2002, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [CS]ls1haha
Winstrol.

Hahahaha!...Um....No!......bad bad winny.....bad bad....

The Raven · 05-01-2002, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by badassjeep91

I happen to disagree with that statement, Hydroxycut and Cell-tech have been proven to be more effective when takin together. The muscletech stack is one, if not the best, supplement stack on the market today.

I dunno where you get your info from, but one of the most effective ingredients in Cell Tech is creatine while one of the most effective stimulants in Hydroxycut is caffiene which has been proven to negate creatine's ability to increase muscular volume and strength through water retention and increased muscle phosphocreatine. Use them together and you are literally pissing your money away on the Cell Tech. You are better off dieting first and eating the same amount of protien powder and save the Cell Tech for when you are ready to up calories, water intake, and rest time.

bully1027 · 05-01-2002, 01:39 PM

take what as much as of what ever you can get your hands on, more is better! works for me!

The Raven · 05-01-2002, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bully1027
take what as much as of what ever you can get your hands on, more is better! works for me!

Not in all cases...

bully1027 · 05-01-2002, 01:58 PM

a friend of mine worked at GNC so i was supplied with protein bars, creating and vitamins in abundance for at least 6 months, i gained more muscular weight in that 6 months than ever before, so as your comment goes "not in all cases" but in mine it worked and i was sharing my experiences with him! thank you.

did i see your pics posted up any where??????

The Raven · 05-02-2002, 01:25 PM

The simple fact is that caffiene has been medically proven to negate the effects of creatine. I agree with you statement as long as all the supplements are geared to the same goal, either gaining lean mass or losing bodyfat. Trying to both at the same time is possible, but ALOT harder to do effectively and efficiently. Take it one goal at a time and progress is alot more satisfying and motivated and you are less likely to "tread water".

As for pics I don't really have any on the PC other than the month I was GC2s "stang stud" (link below), with pics from a couple years ago, but no pose-downs or anything like that. I've been lifting for a little over 7 years and weigh in at 197lbs at 5'10" and am currently dieting for summer in an effort to get down to about 190 and 8% bodyfat.

Stang Stud Feature

04-08-2002, 11:03 AM	#1
ThaLS1Kid With the T-Tops off Join Date: May 2001 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 1,762	What Supplements.... I work out regularly and try to watch what I eat, but I was looking into to using some supplements and was wondering what supplements/stackers you guys use or have had experience with and what you thought of them. Thanks for any advice given. __________________ Nut'n but Twisted Steel and Sex Appeal

04-08-2002, 02:25 PM	#2
Xcessive get8ch Join Date: May 2001 Location: Plano, Tx Posts: 885	what are you trying to do? do you want to build muscle or cut up __________________

04-09-2002, 11:33 PM	#4
96BluOvl Lifer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Corpus Christi, TX. Posts: 4,009	Try animal stak from universal nutrition \ __________________ -John -2007 Mustang GT

04-22-2002, 01:27 PM	#10
The Raven Kiss it... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plano Posts: 33,660	You can do both (gain lean mass/lose bodyfat), but much more important than supplements to do so is a clean diet with the proper macronutrient ratio and the right amount of calories. As trite as it is, you are what you eat and without proper nutrition you will be just treading water and wasting you money on supplements. Your best friend should be protien and you have to lean how to manipulate carbs in an effort to keep your metaboliosm up and you muscles full of glycogen without excess that will turn to fat. __________________ Raven 2006 Yamaha R6S "If it has horsepower or tits you're gonna have trouble with it eventually..."

04-30-2002, 01:41 PM	#12
The Raven Kiss it... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plano Posts: 33,660	Hmm, hadn't heard about Pyruvate. I'll hafta check it out, my diet starts next week. __________________ Raven 2006 Yamaha R6S "If it has horsepower or tits you're gonna have trouble with it eventually..."

04-08-2002, 10:50 PM	#3
ThaLS1Kid With the T-Tops off Join Date: May 2001 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 1,762	Well for the most part I am trying to do both, but I guess if I to pick one it would cut up.

04-17-2002, 07:41 AM	#6
badassjeep91 Guest Posts: n/a	If I was you, I would get on the muscletech stack. It consists of Hydroxycut, Cell-tech, and Nitro-tech. I love it and have seen some good gains in my last couple of months of training. A good diet and cardio is the key. Its good to have a partner to motivate you to.

04-17-2002, 03:58 PM	#7
TEXWS6 Time Served Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 160	ok dude, you are just throwing your money down the drain....Hydroxycut and Cell-tech will basically cancel each other out.... Kelly

04-20-2002, 03:49 PM	#8
c_diddy Time Served Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Garland, Texas USA Posts: 97	If u want to get a lil bigger i took a cycle of some 19-NOR andro and gained about 9 lbs. off of it. Im on this new shit called 1-AD and its probably one of the best andros u can find. Its about 70 bucks but the shit works really well.

04-20-2002, 05:13 PM	#9
TEXWS6 Time Served Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 160	IMO if you are gonna get on andro, you might as well take the real stuff, and how long have you been working out and how intense??

04-27-2002, 07:35 AM	#11
Wild Stallion Saved Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Moving to the Big House! Posts: 1,318	I'm just now getting back into the fitness scene, I am paying a trainer, who does not work for the gym, and he tells me that a good diet, a thermogenic supp, and pyruvate (sp) will give you a 5-7% body fat loss in the first month, and 2-3% in the 2nd month, Just what I've been told, I've done some reading and everything I read says that Pyruvate increases the fat loss by anywhere from 30-48% over a thermogenic alone. I'm starting it as of this morning. I'll let you know in a month how it turns out.

04-30-2002, 02:52 PM	#13
Beej Full of shit Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Anyone wanna chat with a fat man, click below. Posts: 16,639	Pyruvate is a great for body fat loss but only works in latter stages, It is very expensive, but does work.

05-01-2002, 01:43 AM	#15
Wild Stallion Saved Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Moving to the Big House! Posts: 1,318	Actually I have now lost 16 lbs, and am only in my third week, my body fat has gone from 27% to 24% in that time period and My energy levels are up to what I had 10 years ago. So my goal for a 5% body fat reduction in the first month are well in hand. I know it seems like a drastic loss, but then I used to have a 8% body fat at 208 lbs and ran 18-20 miles a week. If I get down to 15% body fat and hold at 225 or so, I will be a very happy man.

05-01-2002, 08:05 AM	#17
[CS]ls1haha Sir Clavin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: DTX Posts: 3,049	Winstrol.

05-01-2002, 01:39 PM	#20
bully1027 Time Served Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: temple, tx Posts: 424	take what as much as of what ever you can get your hands on, more is better! works for me!

05-01-2002, 01:58 PM	#22
bully1027 Time Served Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: temple, tx Posts: 424	a friend of mine worked at GNC so i was supplied with protein bars, creating and vitamins in abundance for at least 6 months, i gained more muscular weight in that 6 months than ever before, so as your comment goes "not in all cases" but in mine it worked and i was sharing my experiences with him! thank you. did i see your pics posted up any where??????

05-02-2002, 01:25 PM	#23
The Raven Kiss it... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Plano Posts: 33,660	The simple fact is that caffiene has been medically proven to negate the effects of creatine. I agree with you statement as long as all the supplements are geared to the same goal, either gaining lean mass or losing bodyfat. Trying to both at the same time is possible, but ALOT harder to do effectively and efficiently. Take it one goal at a time and progress is alot more satisfying and motivated and you are less likely to "tread water". As for pics I don't really have any on the PC other than the month I was GC2s "stang stud" (link below), with pics from a couple years ago, but no pose-downs or anything like that. I've been lifting for a little over 7 years and weigh in at 197lbs at 5'10" and am currently dieting for summer in an effort to get down to about 190 and 8% bodyfat. Stang Stud Feature __________________ Raven 2006 Yamaha R6S "If it has horsepower or tits you're gonna have trouble with it eventually..."

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