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Unread 03-30-2006, 07:34 PM   #1
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EGR Delete - Fox Body

OK, I did a search and found a ton of threads related to the EGR delete.

Sad part is, I'm still a little confused.

I'm putting a new engine in the coupe and removed the smog pump, all the smog piping, the charcoal canister (or whatever it's called), and the EGR valve.

My question is this: Other than plugging up the vacuum lines, what else is required? There's a harness plug left that used to plug into the EGR and one that used to plug in at the charcoal canister.

I assume they need to be resolved somehow, but how?
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Unread 03-30-2006, 07:39 PM   #2
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Found this on RonMorrisPerformance.com

EGR Eliminator Kit

Designed for the clearance problem with fuel injection in an early Mustangs,
between the air intake tube and shock tower. Removing the stock EGR spacer and replacing it with the RMP spacer, will allow you to run the stock late model
air intake tube without it rubbing against the shock tower.
Works with stock 5.0 HO, Explorer, TFS, Edelbrock and Holley intake manifolds.
May require intake manifold spacer if you are running the
factory late model coolant tube that runs to the heater core hoses.
EGR sensor simulator keeps check engine lite off !
RMP spacer has 70mm opening.
Will cause memory code for EGR not functioning. Does NOT effect driveability !
Over 2 years of daily driven testing.

This EGR Eliminator Kit and Simulator are for 1987-93 Mustang Computers Only!
No Refunds or Returns on this part!
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Is this worth the $69.99 price tag or is there something else I can do short of getting a custom chip burned?

[edit] - FWIW - I just saw that you can buy the "EGR simulator" separate from all the other stuff for $39.95...
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Unread 03-30-2006, 07:41 PM   #3
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Also found this, same site.

Thermactor Eliminator Kit & Canister Purge Eliminator Kit

Remove your Thermactor (Smog Pump) and Canister Purge Solenoids

Keeps Check Engine Light from coming on !
Does Not Effect Driveability!
Over 4 Years of Daily Driven Testing.
Clean Up the Look of your Engine Compartment!

Thermactor Eliminator Kit
Canister Purge Eliminator Kit
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Doesn't say what all comes in this kit... assuming it's a pulley to replace the smog pump. I don't think I need this as I just got an 84.5" belt and used it.
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Unread 03-30-2006, 07:56 PM   #4
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My combination

OK, is it pathetic that I have replied to my own thread three times now??

Don't know if it matters to the topic at hand, but here's my combination:

306
TFS Stage 1
GT-40p's mildly ported
GT-40 lower, heavily ported
GT-40 upper, not ported
70mm T/B
EGR spacer now has homemade block-off plate
Smog pump and all associated parts removed
24# injectors
MAF - still trying to find one...
Long tubes and o/r H pipe

Other misc parts such as 3.73's, alum driveshaft, new clutch, etc.
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Unread 03-30-2006, 08:13 PM   #5
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OK - my last reply until someone else chimes in with some thoughts.

Since I removed the smog pump, could I put the EGR back on the car and just run it without the smog pump? Or does that defeat the purpose?

I don't really have anything against the EGR, just figured I would get rid of it since I was getting rid of all the other smog stuff.

Thanks for reading my ramblings... and I would appreciate any input as I would like to get my car running this weekend.
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Unread 03-30-2006, 08:56 PM   #6
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I still have my EGR valve on my car and it doesn't have smog pump or canister purge.

Fixed

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Unread 03-30-2006, 09:03 PM   #7
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I still have my EGR valve on my car and it does have smog pump or canister purge.
i think you mean doesn't.
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Unread 03-30-2006, 09:07 PM   #8
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I still have my EGR valve on my car and it doesn't have a smog pump.

fixed

That would be my response
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Unread 03-30-2006, 09:09 PM   #9
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Yea.... whoops.
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Unread 04-03-2006, 12:25 PM   #10
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Done.

I put the EGR back on. Simply removed the smog pump, charcoal canister, and all associate plumbing.

No check engine light...
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Unread 04-03-2006, 03:32 PM   #11
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anyone know if this causes a prob in the engine due to the open egr valve not actually drawing anything into the engine, thus causing the computer to think there is more air going in then required and changing timing/other stuff to accomadate?(spelling) the 'extra' exaust air.... haven't tried it yet, but I think the 3 wire plug just tells the computer if the vaccum is opening the egr valve, so would it work to just remove and cap the vac line going to the valve body (seeing as that there is now no pressure on the valve itself) and the sensor just telling the computer that the valve is always closed? does that cause a check engine light?
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