Who likes Buells?

[Monsoon X]

I think they are good looking bikes. Slow but, good looking.

I'd like to ride one.

[Ted]

you are white, huh?

[GARS04]

Originally Posted by Monsoon X

I think they are good looking bikes. Slow but, good looking.

I'd like to ride one.

There is one, I don't even know wich one it is (number). It looks cool as hell. I too would like to ride one just to see how they really feel. But I don't want one.

[Monsoon X]

Originally Posted by Teds03gt

you are white, huh?

ahh c'mon. This is a cool looking little bike. I'd like to have one to commute on every now and then

[46Tbird]

snickers

[Ted]

it is different looking, thats for sure. not bad though, but are you sure you're not white? Taking the kids in the barbie jeep and riding mountain bikes??

Originally Posted by Monsoon X

ahh c'mon. This is a cool looking little bike. I'd like to have one to commute on every now and then

[GARS04]

Originally Posted by Teds03gt

it is different looking, thats for sure. not bad though, but are you sure you're not white? Taking the kids in the barbie jeep and riding mountain bikes??

I think that's the one I was talking about, but it has some cool undetail, not stock.

[88hatch5_0]

I have always like that bike. I guess it's kind of cool that it is American Made (made by Harley Davidson) It probably would be a good bike for a beginner because it has no fairings.

Jason

[Monsoon X]

The Barbie Jeep has some 10's on it and my mountain bike is gold plated. That better?

[Ted]

Much, lol.

Originally Posted by Monsoon X

The Barbie Jeep has some 10's on it and my mountain bike is gold plated. That better?

[Monsoon X]

[99shestang]

Some of them look good, but they sound like shit!

[GARS04]

Originally Posted by Monsoon X

Thats the one I am talking about! I do like that!

[BCNU]

Those things put the "F" in the word "useless"

What the hell will it do that almost any other bike wont do better?

If I was going to own a twin,(not likely) It would have to be a chopper.

[NayNay]

That bike uses the frame as the "gas tank"

Lindsey, you need to learn to appreciate the difference b/w a 4 banger and a twin

[GARS04]

Originally Posted by BCNU

Those things put the "F" in the word "useless"

What the hell will it do that almost any other bike wont do better?

If I was going to own a twin,(not likely) It would have to be a chopper.

But the point is not that it's a world class bike, its in more of a "unique styling" class. I like the style, think it's different and kind of cool looking....that does not mean I would ever buy one.....lol.

[BCNU]

Yea, Variety and all that.
But man I would hate to drop that kind of cash on a bike knowing full well that any 6 would beat me in any kind of race....

Actually I think they are kinda Fugly anyway.

Different, I guess.

[evil jose]

I take it you just picked up the latest issue of Cycle World JC??? LOL! They've got the bike in there. I've been real curious about Buells for some time now. Yes, it's got some unique styling (I like it) but I've heard that the engines are enemic but there handeling is pretty good because of the way they package everything. I'd love to hear how they sound and see how they run around a track.

[Monsoon X]

Actually, I've been curious about Buells before I got the bike. But I was cruising Sportrider.com and I was checking out the 2005 lineup and saw the Buells and decided to post about them.

Before I got the R1 I liked 'em but, when I found out what times they run I was very dissapointed. I mean man. My Trans Am was faster and it was a grocery getter.

XB9R Firebolt ('02) 10/02 11.84 @ 112.5
XB12R Firebolt ('03) 12/03 11.43 @ 117.5

The 1200 runs 117mph in the 1/4?! That's horrible. But here's why:

XB12R Firebolt ('03) hp99.6 @ 6750 tq77.5 @ 6750 wet lbs461 dry lbs439

[GARS04]

Originally Posted by Monsoon X

Actually, I've been curious about Buells before I got the bike. But I was cruising Sportrider.com and I was checking out the 2005 lineup and saw the Buells and decided to post about them.

Before I got the R1 I liked 'em but, when I found out what times they run I was very dissapointed. I mean man. My Trans Am was faster and it was a grocery getter.

XB9R Firebolt ('02) 10/02 11.84 @ 112.5
XB12R Firebolt ('03) 12/03 11.43 @ 117.5

The 1200 runs 117mph in the 1/4?! That's horrible. But here's why:

XB12R Firebolt ('03) hp99.6 @ 6750 tq77.5 @ 6750 wet lbs461 dry lbs439

Damn, I think that pretty much moves them into the "Scooter" category.....lol.

Actually that's aot of torque, should wheelie fairly easy.

[Thurston]

the first bike is a cityx and that is the stock tail on it, its a new model and im not even sure if it has even been released. also like naynay said the gas tank is the frame and the swingarm is the oil tank, so the spot where the conventional gas tank goes is the air box and if you look it is a clear fairing which i think is a first also. the second pic is a thunder or firebolt which is just another model with some of the same features. i like em and know a guy who has a thunder, they are fun as hell to ride. tons of torque and they sound badass.

[NayNay]

Originally Posted by BCNU

Those things put the "F" in the word "useless"

What the hell will it do that almost any other bike wont do better?

If I was going to own a twin,(not likely) It would have to be a chopper.

What about an Aprilia/Ducati/RC51?

[evil jose]

Well if I ever thought about buying a Buell (which I wouldn't because I couldn't afford a new or second bike) I wouldn't be buying it for the speed. It would be for the style (which I sorta like) and the handeling (which I'll reserve my opinion on).

Man, anybody on the board have an RC51?? I'd love to hear that bike and check it out up close. I hate the way the twin exhaust is layed out on it and the silly digital tach on it but otherwise I'd love to hear a sporty twin and I love the styling on it. Hmm... If I ever though about moving up to liter land....

[BCNU]

Originally Posted by NayNay

What about an Aprilia/Ducati/RC51?

Maybe.

Tell ya what, loan me the money and I'll let ya know what I think...

I would still prolly take the Zuk!

[NayNay]

Originally Posted by evil jose

Man, anybody on the board have an RC51?? I'd love to hear that bike and check it out up close. I hate the way the twin exhaust is layed out on it and the silly digital tach on it but otherwise I'd love to hear a sporty twin and I love the styling on it. Hmm... If I ever though about moving up to liter land....

The guy that owns Cycle Concepts out here has a a Euro Spec SP-2 (our RC-51) with a Jardine single pipe on it...that bike is pimp shit...he ordered it from hungary (he speaks the language) and got shipped and everything for LESS than he could have got it here if he just walked in to a honda dealer...and it's got all the euro-spec goodies

[T-TOPPS5.0]

Originally Posted by 88hatch5_0

I have always like that bike. I guess it's kind of cool that it is American Made (made by Harley Davidson) It probably would be a good bike for a beginner because it has no fairings.

Jason

Actually........ they are mostly American made. And definately American assembled. But the internals of the engine are not entirely made in America. You are right that they use hardly ableson engines, but they have across the pond parts as well. My best friends dad worked for the assembly plant for 25 years. The actual design is still from John Buell. He worked for harley and ventured out on his own. But when funds went low he made a deal with harley and sold them 49 percent of the Buell comapny. That way he uses their engines and he keeps 51 percent of the company. Just an FYI. you can beleive it or not.

[evil jose]

Originally Posted by NayNay

The guy that owns Cycle Concepts out here has a a Euro Spec SP-2 (our RC-51) with a Jardine single pipe on it...that bike is pimp shit...he ordered it from hungary (he speaks the language) and got shipped and everything for LESS than he could have got it here if he just walked in to a honda dealer...and it's got all the euro-spec goodies

Man, sounds sweet! WTF does Europe always get the cool bikes and the US has to wait? Just like friggin cell phones!

Originally Posted by T-TOPPS5.0

Actually........ they are mostly American made. And definately American assembled. But the internals of the engine are not entirely made in America. You are right that they use hardly ableson engines, but they have across the pond parts as well. My best friends dad worked for the assembly plant for 25 years. The actual design is still from John Buell. He worked for harley and ventured out on his own. But when funds went low he made a deal with harley and sold them 49 percent of the Buell comapny. That way he uses their engines and he keeps 51 percent of the company. Just an FYI. you can beleive it or not.

I heard the same thing on a History or Discovery Channel show talking about the history of motorcycles.

[ThreeFingerPete]

Jeff's RC51 is Definitely PIMP.

i personally wouldn't own one. i Dont like harley's because of their engine, so i'd sooner buy something with a twin that i thought would be a good bike than something i was sure was a boat anchor.

hell, i'd take the honda SuperHawk over one of those little bastards.


adam

[NayNay]

Originally Posted by OneBadWagon

Jeff's SP-2 is definitely PIMP.

Fixed

[ELVIS]

how can you discuss v-twin sportbikes without talking about a tl1000r??? i hear they are pretty nice bikes!

[ThreeFingerPete]

cuz they don't make them no more. it's almost like they never existed. *listens closely for echoes in the distance*

[ELVIS]

sucks that 03 was the last year for the beast. also if you have ever heard you with a full exhaust on it you know you aint gotta listen too closely

[evil jose]

Originally Posted by ELVIS

sucks that 03 was the last year for the beast. also if you have ever heard you with a full exhaust on it you know you aint gotta listen too closely

I still want to check out your bike bro. What you got going this weekend? PM me your contact info and maybe we can hook up and do some riding.

[NayNay]

Originally Posted by ELVIS

how can you discuss v-twin sportbikes without talking about a tl1000r??? i hear they are pretty nice bikes!

They aren't manufactured anymore, and are heavy ass dog dung...they are cool bikes though...i got a buddy with one that can roll from a light doing 5-10 mph in 1st and stand up on the pegs and with NO CLUTCH rock a sssslllllooooooowwwwwww wheelie through an intersection...thats crazy torque right there. I'd own a TL, but it would only be to cruise...You can't wheelie them for long...oil pickup in the front of the motor, and they are too heavy to do any slow stunts on them...and too heavy to be nimble in the corners....I hope suzuki remakes it though!

[ELVIS]

shes a little heavy, pleasingly plump if you will. i like it because of the size i am, 6ft 1 around 200lbs and dont really feel comfortable on a smaller bike, the last bike i owned was an 01 ninja zx9r. i was comfortable on that but i looked into the gixxers and the 954 when i sold the ninja and did not feel comfortable on either of them. the tiller is a big bike no doubt, but the weight is made up by the insane amount of torque. i dont stunt at all. o.k., maybe an occasional wheelie but for my needs, street riding and an occasional high speed pass on the 121 bypass behind my house it suits me fine. plus you dont see tillers everyday. check out www.tlplanet.com if you wanna see some insane tillers with some insane hp and ft/lb ratings.

pm sent evil.

[T-TOPPS5.0]

Originally Posted by NayNay

They aren't manufactured anymore, and are heavy ass dog dung...they are cool bikes though...i got a buddy with one that can roll from a light doing 5-10 mph in 1st and stand up on the pegs and with NO CLUTCH rock a sssslllllooooooowwwwwww wheelie through an intersection...thats crazy torque right there. I'd own a TL, but it would only be to cruise...You can't wheelie them for long...oil pickup in the front of the motor, and they are too heavy to do any slow stunts on them...and too heavy to be nimble in the corners....I hope suzuki remakes it though!

ok........ not questioning anybodies abilities here............... but i own a tlr and i have never had a problem with keeping up with anybody in hard lean corners at speed. just like Elvis....... i am 6 foot and about 235/240. the bikes weight dissapears as soon as you go 10 mhp or above. if you have the size or strength to toss it around..... the weight becomes nothing. i had an 04 R1 and sold it and kept the TLR. The R1 was wickedly fast......... but to small for me and i could never get the feel for it as far as comfort goes. GARS02GSTA's brother is a neighbor of mine. he has seen both bikes. They both have beautiful ZX10's but those bikes fit them well. Some of us west texas boys were grown a little on the big side
As far as the TLR's power with the proper mods......... I have walked RC51's with the same size rider as myself. Done it several times against a buddies. Its faster than a superhawk by far. Never raced a Ducati. But their main advantage from what I understand is in the suspension. I am not saying I can run a gixxer/ZX10 type bikes in a straight line or anything........ but anybody can ride a bike in a straight line and twist the throttle. I had my speedo calibrated and I have seen my speedo between 175 and 180. That is of course with the stock gearing of 17/39. It may take it a few seconds more than the average liter bike....... but it is no slouch by far. And capable of third gear wheelies without the cluth. The third gear wheelie is not a high one, maybe about 6 inches and a hard tug. but comes up just the same if your timming is perfect. First and second are very easy to get them as high as you want without the clutch. 2nd gear at about 6 or 7 grand and nail the throttle and hold on. NayNay is right about the oil pickup being in the front of the engine. But i have seen them get wheelied through 6th gear. I have never been that good though. sorry, didnt mean to ramble about the tlr....
but i felt i had to set the record straight on its abilities. And as mentioned of course......... they arent your average cookie cutter bike thats seen everywhere. And they sound awsome. To each his own.

[BCNU]

Have a different firing cycle than a regular 4 stroke..
4 strokes are usually intake,compression, power and exhaust, affectionately refered to as..
Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow.

V-twins replace the Power stroke with an additional intake stroke or..
Suck, Squeeze, Suck, Blow.

With the Extra "suck stroke" added this explains why they really Suck!



J/K....



Others have said that the 4 cycles of a Harley motor are..

1) Start engine
2) Release clutch
3) Move forward 3 feet
4) Get off and mop up the oil puddle.



Still J/K