How to Launch?

STROKD · 09-02-2004, 03:48 PM

I got the How to Shift fast chapter done, save for a few grinded teeth on my tranny...

What's the best way to get the bike moving fast w/o lifting the tire and/or bogging it? about 4 K and a light throttle quick clutch seems to work well, but people at the track ride the shit out of the clutch at like 10K or so right? What would be the difference in 60' between a smooth low rpm launch and a crazy rpm slipping launch?

Tweakd · 09-02-2004, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by STROKD

I got the How to Shift fast chapter done, save for a few grinded teeth on my tranny...

What's the best way to get the bike moving fast w/o lifting the tire and/or bogging it? about 4 K and a light throttle quick clutch seems to work well, but people at the track ride the shit out of the clutch at like 10K or so right? What would be the difference in 60' between a smooth low rpm launch and a crazy rpm slipping launch?

10k rpm slip the clutch is how you launch.... 4krpm is bogging with your size and 600cc you'll never ET how you want I promise.

STROKD · 09-02-2004, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tweakd

10k rpm slip the clutch is how you launch.... 4krpm is bogging with your size and 600cc you'll never ET how you want I promise.

How much do I slip it?

enough to keep the front tire down, but how much is that? lol.

STROKD · 09-02-2004, 03:57 PM

I also haven't tried launching with it strapped, it would probably keep the front end a lot more stable and on the ground then right?

NayNay · 09-02-2004, 04:00 PM

practice by going from 6-7k and SLIIIIIPING the clutch, until you get it on the fine line of bogging and lifting the wheel (too fast, or too slow)

Tweakd · 09-02-2004, 04:01 PM

you actually slip it prtty fast but obviously not too fast or the front wheel will be in the air fast. Yes strap it

RiSk · 09-02-2004, 04:13 PM

i am a bike newbi wtf is strapping it.

Tweakd · 09-02-2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RiSk

i am a bike newbi wtf is strapping it.

strapping the front end down so the forks struts are compressed all the way to lessen the chance of the front tire lifting under hard acceleration.

RiSk · 09-02-2004, 04:23 PM

aite cool, thanks for the info

spankustang · 09-02-2004, 04:28 PM

I just ordered a strap for mine from Schnitzracing.com
I had to get the one with the brackets for radial mounted calipers!!!!!

NayNay · 09-02-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spankustang

I just ordered a strap for mine from Schnitzracing.com
I had to get the one with the brackets for radial mounted calipers!!!!!

You pimp you

STROKD · 09-02-2004, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NayNay

practice by going from 6-7k and SLIIIIIPING the clutch, until you get it on the fine line of bogging and lifting the wheel (too fast, or too slow)

I'll try that hopefully tomorrow night when I get my bike... Thanks for the tips. I'll have the previous owner show me the tricks of the trade, he went 6.66 on it so I am sure he knows how to launch it just right.

spankustang · 09-02-2004, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NayNay

You pimp you

I'm gonna try to pimp that focker down to 9.9?

Super Coupe · 09-03-2004, 02:02 AM

I didnt launch mine very high and I cut 1.8 60s. I took off at about 4k then right after i get moving i step it up to about 7k. The first few feet take it easy cause thats when the front comes up. After that its WOT. On a good launch it will hover about a foot off the ground almost all the way through first but u can still apply all the power. I have stock ride height zx6r and ran a 7.0 at 105 my first time at the strip. What do u ride?

spankustang · 09-03-2004, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tamestang

I didnt launch mine very high and I cut 1.8 60s. I took off at about 4k then right after i get moving i step it up to about 7k. The first few feet take it easy cause thats when the front comes up. After that its WOT. On a good launch it will hover about a foot off the ground almost all the way through first but u can still apply all the power. I have stock ride height zx6r and ran a 7.0 at 105 my first time at the strip. What do u ride?

Was your 1.8 60' time a 1.81 or a 1.89??? There is a BIG difference in that amount of time!!! 1.81 would be excellent for that bike, where a 1.89 would be about avg!!!

Garceeya · 09-03-2004, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NayNay

You pimp you

I always ride strapped. You never know when you need it.

GARS04 · 09-03-2004, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tweakd

10k rpm slip the clutch is how you launch.... 4krpm is bogging with your size and 600cc you'll never ET how you want I promise.

Not on this bike. This bike is VERY torqey for a 600 and it's also 1 tooth down. Launching at anything over 6000 will put the front tire in the air (riding the clutch the way you have to te get a good time slip). Launch at 5500 and ride it just past the 60' mark. Best to date on that bike was a 6.66 @ 107 on a 1.65 60'. I love that bike.....I would be happy to show you how to 60' that mutha. Just holla at a playa.

Stacey rode my bike 3 times and could not beat my time on it, he said "I don't know what your doing, but whatever it is it's working for ya".......hahaha.

Monsoon X · 09-03-2004, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Garceeya

I always ride strapped. You never know when you need it.

Isn't that dangerous? Aren't straps dangerous in general? I know it's cheap to get them but, isn't there another way to lower the front?

GARS04 · 09-03-2004, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Monsoon X

Isn't that dangerous? Aren't straps dangerous in general? I know it's cheap to get them but, isn't there another way to lower the front?

He means strapped like he's carrying a weapon. Greg's bike doesn't even have a strap on it. I do ride mine lightly strapped on the street just to keep the tightener snug and from bumping the inside faring. Never had a problem. Straps are not dangerous at all unless you use them incorrectly, ie. connecting to the wrong part of the lower fork or brake is very dangerous......just do it the right way and you won't have any problems with it. Even if it comes unstrapped it does not catapult you into the air.......lol. It simply comes back up.....but I have not had one do any harm to me and I have had one since the day I started riding.

You can lower the bike at the forks but make damn sure you use a pair of mic's to check the depth, if you get one side lower than the other it will head shake and tank slap when you get on it too much. That's dangerous. Just use common sense, if it looks dangerous it probably is.

Swamp Donkey · 09-03-2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Monsoon X

Isn't that dangerous? Aren't straps dangerous in general? I know it's cheap to get them but, isn't there another way to lower the front?

I have a strap on mine but I nver use it on the street. It's dangerous because there is no front suspension if the strap is pulled all the way down. The other way to lower it is to raise the forks through the triple tree. By doing that you will still have full suspension travel as lomg as you don't go so low as to bottom out easily.

STROKD · 09-06-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GARS02GSTA

Not on this bike. This bike is VERY torqey for a 600 and it's also 1 tooth down. Launching at anything over 6000 will put the front tire in the air (riding the clutch the way you have to te get a good time slip). Launch at 5500 and ride it just past the 60' mark. Best to date on that bike was a 6.66 @ 107 on a 1.65 60'. I love that bike.....I would be happy to show you how to 60' that mutha. Just holla at a playa.

Stacey rode my bike 3 times and could not beat my time on it, he said "I don't know what your doing, but whatever it is it's working for ya".......hahaha.

I'll let you know when I get a chance to head to the track, maybe you can meet me out there and show me how to go about doing the launch.

Super Coupe · 09-06-2004, 07:20 PM

Let me know too. I'll come run u and try to get me a 6.9. I have only been riding for 4 weeks so I dunno I guess we will see. Let me know.

GARS04 · 09-07-2004, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tamestang

Let me know too. I'll come run u and try to get me a 6.9. I have only been riding for 4 weeks so I dunno I guess we will see. Let me know.

I think the little R6 will walk that 636......

STROKD · 09-08-2004, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GARS02GSTA

I think the little R6 will walk that 636......

I agree, espicially with you riding it...

Super Coupe · 09-08-2004, 12:25 PM

36cc difference. WOW thats a ton. No way u can make up that much difference.

Like I said she is stock and I am a newb. I just want to race.

GARS04 · 09-08-2004, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tamestang

36cc difference. WOW thats a ton. No way u can make up that much difference.

Like I said she is stock and I am a newb. I just want to race.

If I had a nickel for everytime I heard that at the track, that little R6 has stomped 1000's in the 1/8.....

. Knowing how to get it down the track is 100% the battle.

Stroked87 · 09-08-2004, 04:28 PM

2 words: Extended Swingarm !!

Super Coupe · 09-09-2004, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GARS02GSTA

If I had a nickel for everytime I heard that at the track, that little R6 has stomped 1000's in the 1/8.....

. Knowing how to get it down the track is 100% the battle.

Well its the truth. Im new to it just like strokd. I think it should be owner vs. owner. Come on I just like to race. I already got smoke by Casper351. I think thats his name on here not sure.

GARS04 · 09-09-2004, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tamestang

Well its the truth. Im new to it just like strokd. I think it should be owner vs. owner. Come on I just like to race. I already got smoke by Casper351. I think thats his name on here not sure.

ok....

when is this going to happen? I need a bike to ride this weekend, mine won't be back up till next week.

STROKD · 09-09-2004, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tamestang

Well its the truth. Im new to it just like strokd. I think it should be owner vs. owner. Come on I just like to race. I already got smoke by Casper351. I think thats his name on here not sure.

LOL the bike is still Garso's till I pay it off, so you're gonna get owned...

Owner vs Owner it shall be...

GARS04 · 09-09-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by STROKD

LOL the bike is still Garso's till I pay it off, so you're gonna get owned...

Owner vs Owner it shall be...

You should be a Lawyer Matt, way to find those loopholes.....lol. Technically Matt is correct.

Super Coupe · 09-10-2004, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GARS02GSTA

You should be a Lawyer Matt, way to find those loopholes.....lol. Technically Matt is correct.

Ok fine with me. If I hang at all it won't be so bad due to the circumstances. And if I can rip a 6.9 then its all good with me.

STROKD · 09-10-2004, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tamestang

Ok fine with me. If I hang at all it won't be so bad due to the circumstances. And if I can rip a 6.9 then its all good with me.

Not sure if almost half a second is going to be hanging, but its all in good fun... My bike went 6.6 with Rich on it the first time out with the power pro

gramer

Super Coupe · 09-10-2004, 01:16 AM

Yeah I know Im gonna get smoked off the line. It will still be fun though. Maybe I can step it up and get a win.

GARS04 · 09-10-2004, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tamestang

Yeah I know Im gonna get smoked off the line. It will still be fun though. Maybe I can step it up and get a win.

Nah, to be honest that bike is hard to ride. I rode another 04 R6 this spast weekend and although I could not touch worth a crap didn't do a burnout and it wasn't slammed like mine was, only managed a 7.2 out of it. Only got one run, I think the second run would have easily been a 6 second pass cause that bike had some power as well.

09-02-2004, 03:48 PM	#1
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09-02-2004, 03:57 PM	#4
STROKD Hamilton Racing Ownz U Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: If you can't beat em, join em!!! Posts: 10,655	I also haven't tried launching with it strapped, it would probably keep the front end a lot more stable and on the ground then right? __________________ Grey 86 GT - Rebuild pending Orange 08 Corvette

09-02-2004, 04:01 PM	#6
Tweakd Bone Stock Racing Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: FRISCO TX Posts: 3,795	you actually slip it prtty fast but obviously not too fast or the front wheel will be in the air fast. Yes strap it __________________ YOU ARE MY BIGGEST FAN!

09-02-2004, 04:13 PM	#7
RiSk 3rd shift sloucher Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: some where between texas and mexico Posts: 1,620	i am a bike newbi wtf is strapping it. __________________ : () { : \| : & } ; : = <3

09-02-2004, 04:23 PM	#9
RiSk 3rd shift sloucher Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: some where between texas and mexico Posts: 1,620	aite cool, thanks for the info __________________ : () { : \| : & } ; : = <3

09-02-2004, 04:00 PM	#5
NayNay hip hop since '82 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: 3rd Bass Posts: 6,658	practice by going from 6-7k and SLIIIIIPING the clutch, until you get it on the fine line of bogging and lifting the wheel (too fast, or too slow)

09-02-2004, 04:28 PM	#10
spankustang Is it cold in here? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 7,319	I just ordered a strap for mine from Schnitzracing.com I had to get the one with the brackets for radial mounted calipers!!!!! __________________ 8.26@172 on some 275 60's! http://media.putfile.com/Neely-tulsa-final-round001

09-03-2004, 02:02 AM	#14
Super Coupe I'm callin you out! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Greenville Posts: 13,665	I didnt launch mine very high and I cut 1.8 60s. I took off at about 4k then right after i get moving i step it up to about 7k. The first few feet take it easy cause thats when the front comes up. After that its WOT. On a good launch it will hover about a foot off the ground almost all the way through first but u can still apply all the power. I have stock ride height zx6r and ran a 7.0 at 105 my first time at the strip. What do u ride? __________________ 1987 SSP Mustang Coupe- "The Enforcer"- It's peppy.

09-06-2004, 07:20 PM	#22
Super Coupe I'm callin you out! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Greenville Posts: 13,665	Let me know too. I'll come run u and try to get me a 6.9. I have only been riding for 4 weeks so I dunno I guess we will see. Let me know. __________________ 1987 SSP Mustang Coupe- "The Enforcer"- It's peppy.

09-08-2004, 12:25 PM	#25
Super Coupe I'm callin you out! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Greenville Posts: 13,665	36cc difference. WOW thats a ton. No way u can make up that much difference. Like I said she is stock and I am a newb. I just want to race. __________________ 1987 SSP Mustang Coupe- "The Enforcer"- It's peppy.

09-08-2004, 04:28 PM	#27
Stroked87 Super Jew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Originally? My dads Penis! Posts: 2,053	2 words: Extended Swingarm !! __________________ ______________________________ Dumbass quote: I couldn't tell if the streaker was a man or a woman because it had a bag on it's head. -Yogi Berra

09-10-2004, 01:16 AM	#34
Super Coupe I'm callin you out! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Greenville Posts: 13,665	Yeah I know Im gonna get smoked off the line. It will still be fun though. Maybe I can step it up and get a win. __________________ 1987 SSP Mustang Coupe- "The Enforcer"- It's peppy.

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