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Old 11-06-2009, 05:39 PM   #51
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It's quite ridiculous when you think about it, but unfortunately, I expected it to happen.

What was posted as far as this picture, I thought was great, and actually sent chills down my side. Not bad chills, but the chills you get when you witness something great. I am proud to say the least.

Yet barely anyone in this thread can take the picture for what it's worth, and what I acknowledge as, a great individual. But has to turn this thread into a pissing political match.

Just my opinion.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:39 PM   #52
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On what issue does Obama warrant defending?
From our own board, shit like this;

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That's just something I skimmed earlier. I hear much worse in real life on a regular basis. I'm just tired of it.

I mean, shit, this whole thread in general is a clusterfuck. Seems like everyone wants to make a big deal out of nothing and take things all out of context. To be honest, I think you want to pick a fight right now.

All I was trying to do was say hey "saw a dude on top of his 18 wheeler waving a flag, snapped a pic, I'll text it to someone to post, it's not something you see everyday, maybe you guys will get the same kick out of it I did."

Instead it's been a clusterfuck bitch fest where everyone wants to pick something out of someone elses post and twist it just to be a dick.

This thread wasn't meant to be political in any way.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:41 PM   #53
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It's quite ridiculous when you think about it, but unfortunately, I expected it to happen.

What was posted as far as this picture, I thought was great, and actually sent chills down my side. Not bad chills, but the chills you get when you witness something great. I am proud to say the least.

Yet barely anyone in this thread can take the picture for what it's worth, and what I acknowledge as, a great individual. But has to turn this thread into a pissing political match.

Just my opinion.
I agree, shit like this is why I rarely post here anymore.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:46 PM   #54
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that was a very cool thing of him to do.
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Instead it's been a clusterfuck bitch fest where everyone wants to pick something out of someone elses post and twist it just to be a dick.
Show me ONE thread here where that hasn't happened.

Everyone's entitled an opinion, and more often than not, you're going to disagree with them. I can't stand Obama's policies but that would be the case with Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank or any other Democrat asshole you can think of. Not because he's black.

Hell I'm sure he's a decent guy and good to his family, but I can't wait until he's out of office. I'm certain he'll be replaced with some other incompetent fuckstick from one party or the other.

I thought it was a cool picture. I'm proud that someone is crazy enough and patriotic enough to show support for the people that provide our freedom. I'm sure we all agree with that.
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I bet he likes NASCAR.
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I bet he likes NASCAR.
The man decided to take his lunch break cheering up his fellow Americans, quite a admirable thing to do in my opinion.
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The man decided to take his lunch break cheering up his fellow Americans, quite a admirable thing to do in my opinion.
Hey thanks Captain Obvious. Doesn't change the fact that I bet he likes NASCAR.
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Hey thanks Captain Obvious. Doesn't change the fact that I bet he likes NASCAR.
What the fuck was that for? Did I hurt your feelings or something?
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What the fuck was that for? Did I hurt your feelings or something?
Yes. Terribly.

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I know you are trying to pick a fight and be your typical self, but I am just not in the mood to play today.
So if you need to be enlightened, let me ask you a few questions.

Did you join the military? Why or why not?

Do you think it is okay that people that make more money should have to pay a higher tax percenage than everyone else?

Do you think we should reward the person that kills the asshole breaking into his home?

Do you think the state should have any say at all about what you do in your own home as long as it in no way violates the rights of others or harms others?

I believe we should all speak English in this country. No fucking exceptions.
I believe if you are able to work, your ass should be at work.........and there are always jobs for those who want them.
I believe that if you ae trying to harm me in my home I have every right to stop you with more than enough force to do it.
I believe that you should not go around the world thinking it owes you something.
I believe that your religion is your's and should not be forced on others.
I believe teachers should teach without any personal political viewpoint ever being involved.
I believe it is a fat persons right to be fat.........but if your fat ass takes up two seats, you should be charged for two seats.

Need more enlightenment?
I will answer your questions but I want to point out, you didn't enlighten me at all. Your answers were your beliefs and have nothing to do with what this country stands for, should stand for, or ever did stand for.

No, I didn't join the military because I didn't want to.

Tricky question because higher incomes will always pay a higher tax since it is based on a percentage, even if the percentages fluctuate based on income level. Since I am not familiar enough with tax structure, I really don't have a big opinion on it, but I am inclined to say no, there should be one percentage straight across so everyone pays the same percentage of tax, not the same amount.

No, we should reward someone for taking someones life, regardless of the situation. The justice system is there for a reason. Does it always work and is it always fair? Of course not, but it what it is and we have to live with it and if you are concerned about being wrongfully accused, it is simple, don't put yourself in a situation where you are even in a place to be wrongfully accused. Self defense is a separate issue I think, being life and death, survival of the fittest, but someone should certainly not be rewarded for killing someone regardless of the situation.

As for your last question, you are actually touching on where I was going with my pointed questions. I have had this debate with a friend of mine several times. I am going to try and explain my point of view, but to answer your question straight up, yes I do think they should have that right. To put that into my point of view, I think that way, not because of "oh, drugs are bad", which is obviously what you had in mind in asking that question, I think that way because I think society as a whole can not police themselves. You allow things to go on in the home that are "victimless crimes", and soon, it migrates outside of the home, then down the street, etc. I soon becomes a crime with a victim. Frankly, I don't care what you do in your home, but the second you come out in public, I have a big fucking problem with you being a dumb ass. I see a big problem with people trying to blame the government for not letting you do as you please. If you are going to blame someone, blame society. Blame the idiots that can't handle life, can't handle being a member of society, can't respect others, but don't blame the government. It is a direct parallel with speed limits. They are there because people can't handle driving without speed limits. Speeding is a victimless crime, until you come around the corner and wipe out a family of 4. Laws are deterrents. Necessary "evils" as some might think, because society has evolved into a bunch of selfish, disrespectful, moronic, clueless, stupid people. Blame these people because it is because of them we even need laws. It is also human nature, so laws in themselves are inevitable. My only real rebuttal to the "victimless crimes are not really crimes" line of thinking is, if you don't like it, get involved in politics and try and make some changes instead of bitching about it.

The real reason for my pointed question is because, in talking with my friend, who by the way is probably smarter than anyone that post in these forums by a mile, he has told me to read up on certain subjects. While I will admit, I haven't really, I have skimmed some things. When you refer to what this country stands for, what it represents, my first thought was, most people have no earthly idea what principals this country was originally founded on. Knowing the large number of conservatives that post in these forums, I would bet they have never read the Declaration of Independence or some famous quotes by Thomas Jefferson. Our founding fathers were the biggest bunch of "rebels" in the true sense. They hated all forms of government. They hated all laws. They believed in the true meaning of freedom. Our government is a democracy, but that was not their true intent upon forming this nation. Jefferson himself denounced democracy.

I guess my point is, I just find it amusing when people wave the American flag and talk about America and what it stands for and this and that and try and put up the patriotic force field when they probably have no idea that the country we have today evolved from what America originally stood for and the principals that is was originally based on.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:04 PM   #64
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I guess my point is, I just find it amusing when people wave the American flag and talk about America and what it stands for and this and that and try and put up the patriotic force field when they probably have no idea that the country we have today evolved from what America originally stood for and the principals that is was originally based on.
Well amuse yourself with someone else, because I have thoroughly read about Jefferson and the other patriots and what they stood for...........and they were hemp farmers.

The tax question was not a trick question at all........maybe to you, but it was a simple question. You did, however, come to the right answer. There should be a flat tax so everyone pays the same percentage of their income.........that is fair.

Your way of saying victimless crimes end up going down the street and affecting others is strictly speculation. And you said the answer in your post, but then went on to fuck it up. Instead of blaming the idiots that fuck it up, they should be held accountable and punished. The good old government would rather punish everyone than hold the people that fuck up accountable. It is not a crime to drink beer in your house, but walking down the street with a beer gets you punished. Why not the same for other substances?

Well I did sign up for the military and put 8 years in the Marines and to have someone try and explain to me about patriotism, is a fucking joke. I could twist the words around to make it look like Oswald was a patriot because he rebelled against his government and took action.

You are very right about the way this country was when founded and how it is now, though. Some ways are better and some are worse.

The reason I lean more to the right is because i would prefer the least amount of government involvement in my life as possible.

And the comment about your friend being smarter than anyone on here by a mile............dude, are you serious? I am not even going to touch that one, but rather tell you that I am doing a face palm. lol
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Kudos to him and if I had a big truck I'd have been right there with him!

Provided I could take enough time off from paying taxes to have the time...
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No shit unemployment went over 10% they have control over the house and Senate, and still have managed not to do one thing in 9 month except spend money we don't have. there so wrapped up in health care, they need to focus on getting the economy going again.
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Hey what is going on in here? I see a guy parked his 18 whlr on overpass of 1-20, guy on roof waving American Flag WTF???

I don't think WTF, but more like, cool and good for him. I think I read a few post about it in the last two pages.
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Well amuse yourself with someone else, because I have thoroughly read about Jefferson and the other patriots and what they stood for...........and they were hemp farmers.

The tax question was not a trick question at all........maybe to you, but it was a simple question. You did, however, come to the right answer. There should be a flat tax so everyone pays the same percentage of their income.........that is fair.

Your way of saying victimless crimes end up going down the street and affecting others is strictly speculation. And you said the answer in your post, but then went on to fuck it up. Instead of blaming the idiots that fuck it up, they should be held accountable and punished. The good old government would rather punish everyone than hold the people that fuck up accountable. It is not a crime to drink beer in your house, but walking down the street with a beer gets you punished. Why not the same for other substances?

Well I did sign up for the military and put 8 years in the Marines and to have someone try and explain to me about patriotism, is a fucking joke. I could twist the words around to make it look like Oswald was a patriot because he rebelled against his government and took action.

You are very right about the way this country was when founded and how it is now, though. Some ways are better and some are worse.

The reason I lean more to the right is because i would prefer the least amount of government involvement in my life as possible.

And the comment about your friend being smarter than anyone on here by a mile............dude, are you serious? I am not even going to touch that one, but rather tell you that I am doing a face palm. lol
well, there was a reason I didn't come out and accuse you of not knowing what you were talking about and just asking your thoughts.

In the true sense, yes, it is speculation, but seriously, the human race has proven time and time again they can't handle things responsibly. There are laws against drunk driving because people can't figure out they shouldn't be doing that. About the drugs though, I don't know where I stand. I can see both point of views and since I don't do drugs, the laws don't effect me, and I really don't care what the laws are.....like I said, those that are effected and it bothers should get involved and get things changed instead of bitching about it to everyone that doesn't really care.

you can facepalm all you want, but anyone that falls asleep during the SAT and still scores a 1400 and ops to go to Rice instead of an Ivy League school is pretty fucking smart, and with the impression I have of just about everyone on this board, he dwarfs them with his intelligence. Ask Cooter about him.
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I bet you like groceries and all those girly products you need to live your life. Show a lil respect. And yes i do like nascar...
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Hey what is going on in here? I see a guy parked his 18 whlr on overpass of 1-20, guy on roof waving American Flag WTF???

I don't think WTF, but more like, cool and good for him. I think I read a few post about it in the last two pages.
WTF are you trying to say?
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trying to say thread went to shit, sorry if you did not catch my sarcasim, I will shut up now
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Don't put words into my mouth. If you want to attack me and start an argument over something so trivial as to what I find "odd" at least get on to me for what I actually typed. I never said waving the flag alone is odd. There is one outside my house right now. However, I do think it's odd to block traffic with an 18 wheeler, climb on the roof, and then wave a flag or do just about anything else up there. It's not something you see everyday. In fact it's the first time in my life I've driven past something like that and I've driven/ridden well over 500K miles in my life. You're taking it as if I'm saying there is something wrong with waving the flag. I'm saying that getting on the roof of your 18 wheeler and blocking a lane of traffic to wave a flag is "odd".
I just want to know where all the traffic is he's holding up...from the small pic I see, it looks like there are atleast 2 lanes and not a car in sight?

I would love to see this while I was driving...it would make my day. To me it means theres still a chance. In otherwords it gives me HOPE
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I understand what you are saying. Always some dickheads that fuck it up for everyone else.
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you can facepalm all you want, but anyone that falls asleep during the SAT and still scores a 1400 and ops to go to Rice instead of an Ivy League school is pretty fucking smart, and with the impression I have of just about everyone on this board, he dwarfs them with his intelligence. Ask Cooter about him.
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yea, you might see him around there in Austin too. He is a "mentor" for the football team.
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It's quite ridiculous when you think about it, but unfortunately, I expected it to happen.

What was posted as far as this picture, I thought was great, and actually sent chills down my side. Not bad chills, but the chills you get when you witness something great. I am proud to say the least.

Yet barely anyone in this thread can take the picture for what it's worth, and what I acknowledge as, a great individual. But has to turn this thread into a pissing political match.

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I mean, shit, this whole thread in general is a clusterfuck. Seems like everyone wants to make a big deal out of nothing and take things all out of context. To be honest, I think you want to pick a fight right now.

All I was trying to do was say hey "saw a dude on top of his 18 wheeler waving a flag, snapped a pic, I'll text it to someone to post, it's not something you see everyday, maybe you guys will get the same kick out of it I did."

Instead it's been a clusterfuck bitch fest where everyone wants to pick something out of someone elses post and twist it just to be a dick.

This thread wasn't meant to be political in any way.
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I just want to know where all the traffic is he's holding up...from the small pic I see, it looks like there are atleast 2 lanes and not a car in sight?
really, REALLY??? Take the faggotry elsewhere, there is already entirely too much in this thread.

Anything anyone else wants to pick out and bitch about? The lack of overall quality in the pic maybe? How about the fact that I caught my own sideview mirror in the pic? No one has bitched about that yet. If you notice in my mirror my daily driver is white. Anyone want to bitch about that, perhaps I should own a different color car. A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G else that can be picked out to bitch about???
I don't think anyone has complained about my grammar, spelling, or punctuation. Anyone want to tackle that?
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yea, you might see him around there in Austin too. He is a "mentor" for the football team.
I'm sure he's a very bright guy.
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really, REALLY??? Take the faggotry elsewhere, there is already entirely too much in this thread.

Anything anyone else wants to pick out and bitch about? The lack of overall quality in the pic maybe? How about the fact that I caught my own sideview mirror in the pic? No one has bitched about that yet. If you notice in my mirror my daily driver is white. Anyone want to bitch about that, perhaps I should own a different color car. A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G else that can be picked out to bitch about???
I don't think anyone has complained about my grammar, spelling, or punctuation. Anyone want to tackle that?

Wow. You have been on this board a while, I would expect you too be able to deal with this less obscene than normal level of disagreement much better. Perhaps you would benefit from taking a break from reading this thread.
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Wow. You have been on this board a while, I would expect you too be able to deal with this less obscene than normal level of disagreement much better. Perhaps you would benefit from taking a break from reading this thread.
I see both sides and it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it does Hobie but what is the point in always pointing out the flaws of something? It's sort of like attending a funeral and somehow breaking out into an arguement about something that is completely irrelevant to the situation at hand.
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:38 PM   #81
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[quote=46Tbird;5961453]Show me ONE thread here where that hasn't happened.

Everyone's entitled an opinion, and more often than not, you're going to disagree with them. I can't stand Obama's policies but that would be the case with Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank or any other Democrat asshole you can think of. Not because he's black.

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Old 11-07-2009, 08:34 PM   #82
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Omg, a guy sat on top up his truck with the american flag! Wow, this is by far the craziest thing I have seen! Gtfo of here. These days its so damn hard to even see someone waving the american flag. I see more damn Mexicant flags now adays and it makes me want to vomit. Give this man a medal imho. When I see red, white and green flags on peoples cars It makes me want to T bone their car. If they love their country so much then go back there, you wont be missed.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:25 PM   #83
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:06 PM   #84
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I support the soldier and the flag waver while sneering at those of you who question those who care not what you in your pissed off self absorbed worlds think of those who also support the soldiers who made it possible for you to do as you do...


Spin that one around in your empty little narcissistic heads...
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:38 PM   #85
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He is not as nuts as someone who puts an UPSIDE DOWN American Flag for their avatar.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:52 PM   #86
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He is not as nuts as someone who puts an UPSIDE DOWN American Flag for their avatar.
The flag being flow upside down is a symbol of distress, and considering the shit our country is experiencing at the moment with the currently elected government, I think it is actually appropriate.

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