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Old 11-02-2009, 03:02 PM   #1
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Buying a new house, need some help.

Due to my newly found single-ness, I am having a new house built for ME. It's not my FIRST house, but it is my FIRST house all alone. (party time)

Anyways, There are a few things that I have made my mind up on - it will have a 3 car garage, the floor plan is 500 sq. ft. smaller than my current house and this one has GAS and electric, with NO pool!

I guess my main questions center around what options are best to choose at build time vs. what's best to NOT do. I'd admit I am a major procrastonator and I love to make big plans and not follow through with them. If un-necessary options are fairly easy to do, I'd consider not doing them at build time and saving the financing whoas. Otherwise I'd rather just finance them and get it over with. IF it comes down to me paying cash for an upgrade, AFTER I move in, it will most likely not get done. Especially if it's any substantial amount of cash, work or both..

Thoughts please, if any of this makes any sense.
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Old 11-02-2009, 03:52 PM   #2
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youve prolly already thought about this one, but overkill the garage with circuitry! 220v and the normal 110v...maybe a sink in the garage if room permits

those are things "I" would do...
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If you are going to want to hang christmas lights have them install a couple of outlets under the eves connected to a switch in the garage.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:38 PM   #7
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I guess we all think alike...

The sink is a done deal, the O/S garage was almost a done deal - but no lots deep enough to put the garage extension in, so it's just a 3 car..

The surround sound wiring, done deal.

220V and extra plugs in the garage - done deal.

No lift, HOA.

I like the plugs for the christmas lights etc.. not a bad idea. May have to do that one.


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Old 11-02-2009, 04:42 PM   #8
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Hardwire each room for cat5e/cat6 (2 drops per room) all wired to a central closet. Power drop in that closet. Perhaps even coax to that room. Ventilation customization too?
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Spray foam insulation in WALLS and ATTIC. It is probably 30% more than traditional insulation but will pay for itself in only a couple years. The whole house will be more comfortable and no drafts. Also much more quiet. I would not build a new house with out having the entire house done with this.

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Old 11-02-2009, 04:49 PM   #10
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Radiant Barrier and tank-less water heater. Especially if only one person taking showers, no need to cook water all day for such little use. Also insulate the garage walls most builders don't. Also if the third car garage sticks out from the house put in another garage door for a pull though to the back yard (for keeping a trailer or boat in the back yard). We did all of those on my house and love it.
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Hardwire each room for cat5e/cat6 (2 drops per room) all wired to a central closet. Power drop in that closet. Perhaps even coax to that room. Ventilation customization too?
It's fiber to the curb. The house comes with 8 drops you can put anywhere, so I just have to distribute them how I see fit. My office/computer room will get a couple, living room a couple, kitchen a couple and master bedroom a couple.

I don't have to do it like that obviously, so I may run some wires out to the eves for cameras.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:54 PM   #12
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10 foot plate in the garage. Then you can put a 4 post lift on wheels and still house a car on it safely. No HOA can prevent that in Texas.
As big a covered patio as you can have and have structured wiring out to it
Run PVC under the concrete across all sections multiple pieces in 3 or 4" to allow for passing wires or sprinklers later down the road.
No cheap ass siding. Use Hardy board instead. Allows less maintenance down the road.
Upgrade insulation to coccoon or foam
No tile from the builder. He will overcharge you for shitty tile.
Have him not finish out rooms that you will not use now upstairs so that your square footage is less and your taxes will be lower. MAke sure he preps the plumbing, mechanicals, and electrical for it so that when you do want it done you can easily do it.

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Old 11-02-2009, 05:07 PM   #16
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10 foot plate in the garage. Then you can put a 4 post lift on wheels and still house a car on it safely. No HOA can prevent that in Texas.
As big a covered patio as you can have and have structured wiring out to it
Run PVC under the concrete across all sections multiple pieces in 3 or 4" to allow for passing wires or sprinklers later down the road.
No cheap ass siding. Use Hardy board instead. Allows less maintenance down the road.
Upgrade insulation to coccoon or foam
No tile from the builder. He will overcharge you for shitty tile.
Have him not finish out rooms that you will not use now upstairs so that your square footage is less and your taxes will be lower. MAke sure he preps the plumbing, mechanicals, and electrical for it so that when you do want it done you can easily do it.

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All brick, I don't really have the room for a lift regardless if it moves or not.

The sprinkler is already done too. Insulation upgraded / added standard. No upstairs, I am done with 2 stories.
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Holy crap, well Im sorry man I had no idea. I hope you are ok and dont get like me I cant do a damn thing without thinking how much I love Rachel
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All brick, I don't really have the room for a lift regardless if it moves or not.

The sprinkler is already done too. Insulation upgraded / added standard. No upstairs, I am done with 2 stories.
Sounds like you do not need a house you need a Hanger at a municipal airport.

You can build a loft apartment and have gobs of space for toys and limited HOA rules and maintenance. They are relatively inexpensive and most do not have city codes to deal with.
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If you are going to do the outlets under the eaves, I would run speaker, cable, and wire for security lights.
The speaker wire you could hook some speakers up in the back yard, and the cable you could use for either security camera, or running to a tv later on if you do a back patio.

Another thing I would do is run a pipe from the electrical panel to the attic so you can access it later, like a 1 1/4" PVC up to 2" PVC. It wouldn/t cost much and would be so much easier running a new circuit. Usually, romex jockeys will pull all the wire through the same 2" hole and there is no room for another circuit.

Sofit vents and a couple of solar powered attic fans, and a light colored metal roof if your HOA will let you have it, I loooooovvveeeee mine, reflects heat in the summer...

Also I would have them add a valve off of the water meter, to either add a sprinkler or let you run water to the backyard.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:02 PM   #20
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Yup, might run wiring for security system caemras, one cat5 and one coax run, one each from the closet to the front and back doors and garage.

Also if you plan to put a big ass flat panel on the wall, and want a really clean look, have a 110V dropped in mid-wall. Also HDMI and component video run to that location from the closet as well.I just did this and it was a pretty good job running about 75 ft from my living room to my closet. Would have been a lot easier to have done this before all was closed and finished out.

Also might consider zoned audio system wiring all run from the closet as well. Nothing like listening to your audios sources in any room or out on the front or back porch
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I guess we all think alike...

The sink is a done deal, the O/S garage was almost a done deal - but no lots deep enough to put the garage extension in, so it's just a 3 car..

The surround sound wiring, done deal.

220V and extra plugs in the garage - done deal.

No lift, HOA.

I like the plugs for the christmas lights etc.. not a bad idea. May have to do that one.


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If you are going to want to hang christmas lights have them install a couple of outlets under the eves connected to a switch in the garage.
X2 I figured that out on my house after building it.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:48 PM   #23
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I live in an HOA neighborhood now, nothing I'm not already used to. FWIW, my new neighbors are long time friends, the guy across the street is a board member.. I don't forsee any problems. Never had one here.
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:13 PM   #24
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AC and heat for the garage .... along with insulated garage door.
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i have planned on doing what I did in this house - I insulated the doors on my own and added a nice window unit in the back of the 3rd bay. Works GOOD.
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:40 PM   #26
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I agree Atleast 25 ft deep I made mine 22ft and it is crampted with Excursion in there..
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:59 PM   #27
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You staying in the same area? If so PM and if you want Voice/Video/data wiring ran while the house is still studded out plus some electric wiring after the inspections are done let me know. I came in and wired mine while it was being built and it much easier and cheaper on the pocket book then after it is built. Do as many things to it while it is being built even if the builder says no sneak in after hours and do it.
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You can build a loft apartment and have gobs of space for toys and limited HOA rules and maintenance. They are relatively inexpensive and most do not have city codes to deal with.
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if you do a media type room, get a conduit ran to the media closet.

Make sure they use concrete board/hardibacker in the bathrooms
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Lots of lights in the garage (sure you figured that in already)

Instead of cutting a large hole in the wall of your new house look into a split unit design. We put in a 2ton unit for my 3 car and it is awesome.
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If you can go with 12' ceilings in the garage

Flood lights facing up to accent the house

...another vote for outlets under the eves

wished I had more to offer but I have owned my home since July and only spent 20 day/nights living in it

Good luck on your new adventure (being single and the new home build). Where are you building at?
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We just built and here are a few items that were important to me that I haven't seen posted so far.
- Lot orientation was one of the first things I looked for before building. My previous home faced east, so anytime I wanted to sit on the back porch I had to put up with the sun blasting me in the face. My new home faces north. I can't tell you how much better a south facing back porch is.
- Pre wired the patio for a fan to be added later.
- Ran speaker wires from the living room to the back patio and the garage.
- Upgrade to the highest seer AC you can afford. The builder/sub-contractors will absolutely rape you on upgrades, so bid out several steps and see which one you can live with. While you're at it, have an over-sized central furnace filter box installed if the return ducts are in the ceiling unless you particularly like dragging a ladder around the house once a month to replace filters. The over-sized (~5" thick) will go 6 months+. Make sure its a standard size for easier filter replacement later on.
- Extra insulation. While I paid a little more than it would have cost after the sale, getting it over with was worth it.
- In the 3 car garage, I added a door leading from the garage to the back yard and poured a pad back there for the trash cans.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:19 AM   #32
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Spray foam insulation in WALLS and ATTIC. It is probably 30% more than traditional insulation but will pay for itself in only a couple years. The whole house will be more comfortable and no drafts. Also much more quiet. I would not build a new house with out having the entire house done with this.

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On the homes I build, that's about $8k extra (cost). If you want to stay in the house for 15 years, do it. The average time spent in a home is 5 years. If you don't plan on staying a long time, you'll never get your money back.
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It's fiber to the curb. The house comes with 8 drops you can put anywhere, so I just have to distribute them how I see fit. My office/computer room will get a couple, living room a couple, kitchen a couple and master bedroom a couple.

I don't have to do it like that obviously, so I may run some wires out to the eves for cameras.
How much more did it cost you to swich to foam, and how many square feet is your house.

The 1.5 deep garage is a good idea.
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We just built and here are a few items that were important to me that I haven't seen posted so far.
- Lot orientation was one of the first things I looked for before building. My previous home faced east, so anytime I wanted to sit on the back porch I had to put up with the sun blasting me in the face. My new home faces north. I can't tell you how much better a south facing back porch is.
- Pre wired the patio for a fan to be added later.
- Ran speaker wires from the living room to the back patio and the garage.
- Upgrade to the highest seer AC you can afford. The builder/sub-contractors will absolutely rape you on upgrades, so bid out several steps and see which one you can live with. While you're at it, have an over-sized central furnace filter box installed if the return ducts are in the ceiling unless you particularly like dragging a ladder around the house once a month to replace filters. The over-sized (~5" thick) will go 6 months+. Make sure its a standard size for easier filter replacement later on.
- Extra insulation. While I paid a little more than it would have cost after the sale, getting it over with was worth it.
- In the 3 car garage, I added a door leading from the garage to the back yard and poured a pad back there for the trash cans.
Some good ideas here, I had a few of them covered. The ceiling fan, the lot orientation and that's a good idea on the exterior door and pad for trash can - I am just not sure I can do witout the wall space.

Keith, the new place is CLOSE to my old one.


John / Andrew - garage space is a no go, the only lots available where I am moving to don't have enough front to back depth to cover the garage extension. That was the FIRST thing I asked for.
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Gas water heater was standard for my house, but I had to have them add gas lines to the kitchen for the range, fireplace and laundry room for dryer. May run a line to the patio if you want gas grill.
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^gas line to patio is a good idea, grill or fire pit...

If you have an LCD/plasma to wall mount, have the area backed with plywood to attach the wall mount. Also have power and AV/conduit to run AV.
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^gas line to patio is a good idea, grill or fire pit...

If you have an LCD/plasma to wall mount, have the area backed with plywood to attach the wall mount. Also have power and AV/conduit to run AV.
The gas line would be awesome for a patio stub. That is one thing I regret about buying an all electric house, no gas line for the grill and fire place. Now a fire pit is no good if you can't burn whatever you want (wood, paper, documents, bodies) so a gas starter is all I would want there.

Plywood behind the wall for TV is a great idea, that and j-boxes up there also for your wires. I would also do plywood above the fireplace for mounting heavy stuff like mirrors or maybe your TV.

Good luck on the build Brooks
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I don't know if it's been posted or not, but coat the floor this time around. Any word on if Jason is planning on moving in across the street still?
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:43 PM   #45
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Where you moving to, Brooks?
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:46 PM   #46
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Where you moving to, Brooks?
It's real close to my old house, you haven't been to this one though. It's in Saginaw.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:35 PM   #47
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a new piece of ass to clean and cook...
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:53 PM   #48
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Thanks for trying to derail my thread dude. i appreciate it. GTFO.
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Old 11-10-2009, 05:20 PM   #49
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Id also put a drain or two in the garage floor. Nothing better than being able to wash your car indoors when its cold as hell...or if you just want to clean the garage floor
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Old 11-10-2009, 05:57 PM   #50
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Id also put a drain or two in the garage floor. Nothing better than being able to wash your car indoors when its cold as hell...or if you just want to clean the garage floor
That's a great idea.
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