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Unread 02-13-2009, 06:29 AM   #1
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Today's dumb bitch......Dianne Feinstein.

You know how we've all been bitchin' about Pakistan. How they haven't been helping enough to kill Taliban fighters in their country. How they bitch and bitch about our attacks.

I've been a little quiet on this because something didn't jive. I've always felt we had tacit permission to launch those strikes and the Pakistani government would just bitch about it publicly.

Well, guess what. Not on has Pakistan been OK with it. We've been launching and landing Predator drones from INSIDE PAKISTAN..

Sounds like a great plan, right. The we get to blow up the terrorists and the Paki's get to complain about it.

Of course Dianne Feinstein can't keep her fuckin' mouth shut about it..

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,4776260.story

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Feinstein comment on U.S. drones likely to embarrass Pakistan

The Predator planes that launch missile strikes against militants are based in Pakistan, the senator says. That suggests a much deeper relationship with the U.S. than Islamabad would like to admit.

By Greg Miller
February 13, 2009

Reporting from Washington -- A senior U.S. lawmaker said Thursday that unmanned CIA Predator aircraft operating in Pakistan are flown from an air base in that country, a revelation likely to embarrass the Pakistani government and complicate its counter-terrorism collaboration with the United States.

The disclosure by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, marked the first time a U.S. official had publicly commented on where the Predator aircraft patrolling Pakistan take off and land.

At a hearing, Feinstein expressed surprise over Pakistani opposition to the campaign of Predator-launched CIA missile strikes against Islamic extremist targets along Pakistan's northwestern border.

"As I understand it, these are flown out of a Pakistani base," she said.

The basing of the pilotless aircraft in Pakistan suggests a much deeper relationship with the United States on counter-terrorism matters than has been publicly acknowledged. Such an arrangement would be at odds with protests lodged by officials in Islamabad, the capital, and could inflame anti-American sentiment in the country.

The CIA declined to comment, but former U.S. intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information, confirmed that Feinstein's account was accurate.

Philip J. LaVelle, a spokesman for Feinstein, said her comment was based solely on previous news reports that Predators were operated from bases near Islamabad.

"We strongly object to Sen. Feinstein's remarks being characterized as anything other than a reference" to an article that appeared last March in the Washington Post, LaVelle said. Feinstein did not refer to newspaper accounts during the hearing.

Many counter-terrorism experts have assumed that the aircraft take off from U.S. military installations in Afghanistan and are remotely piloted from locations in the United States. Experts said the disclosure could create political problems for the government in Islamabad, which is considered relatively weak.

The attacks are extremely unpopular in Pakistan, in part because of the high number of civilian casualties inflicted in dozens of strikes.

The use of Predators armed with Hellfire antitank missiles has emerged as perhaps the most important tool of the U.S. in its effort to attack Al Qaeda in its sanctuaries along the Pakistani-Afghan border. A New Year's Day strike killed two senior Al Qaeda operatives who were suspected of involvement in the bombing of Islamabad's Marriott Hotel.

They were among at least eight senior Al Qaeda figures reportedly killed in Predator strikes over the last seven months as part of a stepped-up missile campaign.

Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at Georgetown University, said Feinstein's comments put Pakistan's government on the spot.

"If accurate, what this says is that Pakistani involvement, or at least acquiescence, has been much more extensive than has previously been known," he said. "It puts the Pakistani government in a far more difficult position [in terms of] its credibility with its own people. Unfortunately it also has the potential to threaten Pakistani-American relations."

As chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Feinstein is privy to classified details of U.S. counter-terrorism efforts. The CIA does not publicly acknowledge a campaign against Pakistan-based extremists using remotely piloted planes, making Feinstein's comment all the more unusual.

Feinstein's disclosure came during testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee by U.S. Director of National Intelligence Dennis C. Blair on the nation's security threats. Blair did not respond directly to Feinstein's remark, except to say that Pakistan was "sorting out" its cooperation with the United States.

Pakistani officials have long denied that they have even granted the U.S. permission to fly the Predator planes over Pakistani territory, let alone to operate the aircraft from within the country.

The civilian leadership that took over from an unpopular former general, Pervez Musharraf, last year, has gone to significant lengths to distance itself from the Predator strikes.

The Pakistani government regularly lodges diplomatic protests against the strikes as a violation of its sovereignty, and officials said the subject was raised with Richard C. Holbrooke, a newly appointed U.S. envoy to the region, who completed his first visit to the country Thursday.

But a former CIA official familiar with the Predator operations said Pakistan's government secretly approves of the flights because of the growing militant threat.

Feinstein prefaced her comment about the Predator basing Thursday by noting that Holbrooke "ran into considerable concern about the use of the Predator strikes in the FATA areas," a reference to what Pakistan calls its Federally Administered Tribal Area along the border with Afghanistan.

Many Pakistanis believe that the civilian leadership, despite public anger, has continued Musharraf's policy of giving the United States tacit permission to carry out the strikes.

The CIA has been working to step up its presence in Pakistan in recent years. It has deployed as many as 200 people to the country, one of its largest overseas operations besides Iraq, current and former agency officials have estimated. That contingent works alongside other U.S. operatives who specialize in electronic communications and spy satellites.

In his prepared testimony Thursday, Blair said that Al Qaeda had "lost significant parts of its command structure since 2008."
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Unread 02-13-2009, 06:48 AM   #2
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Do we not realize that the dems WANT conflict? This could damage our ability to operate efficiently, thus giving them a basis to say "we failed because of Bush". We all know that it doesn't matter what is reality, but only how it is presented in the media.

The "no attention span" society in which we live will be our downfall. Everyone believes what they hear and don't bother investigating the validity of the assertions. For proof of this theory one needs to look no further than our CIC...
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Unread 02-13-2009, 07:46 AM   #3
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Things like this aren't said by accident. If this was an accident on her part then look for her to be involved in a major scandal and resigning soon.

This was the new administration telling Pakistan that we've had enough of their two-faced games where they make us look bad in the media while we are helping them.

It is time for Pakistan to man up and come out against Al Qaeda.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 08:34 AM   #4
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Yall ever read the book Term Limits? If not, ya should as you'd see it is fitting for current government. (not it is not a political heavy book, fictional...etc)

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In a night of shattering brutality, three of Washington's most powerful and unscrupulous politicians have been executed with surgical precision. Their assassins, vanishing without a trace, have delivered a shocking ultimatum to the leaders of the American government: set aside petty, partisan politics and restore power to the people, or be held to deadly account. No one, they warn, is out of their reach -- not even the president. A joint FBI-CIA task force reveals that the killers are elite military commandos, but no one knows exactly who they are or when they will strike next. Only Michael O'Rourke, a former U.S. Marine and freshman congressman, holds a clue to the violence: a haunting incident in his own past with explosive implications for his country's future.... In a tour de force of action and suspense, Vince Flynn takes the ultimate American ideal -- a government of the people -- to a devastating extreme.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 08:36 AM   #5
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I think you mean "the honorable" Diane Feinstein, as she was so proudly hailed at Barry's inauguration.
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Unread 02-13-2009, 08:52 AM   #6
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Isn't this the dumbass that said a barrel shroud was "a shoulder thing that goes up"?
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Unread 02-13-2009, 12:28 PM   #7
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How in the hell do we get rid of these career politicians...
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Unread 02-13-2009, 09:13 PM   #8
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How in the hell do we get rid of these career politicians...
And the career politicians thinking "how in the hell can we get rid of these pesky citizens."
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And the career politicians thinking "how in the hell can we get rid of these pesky citizens."

No sir. "How do we more effectively control these dolts" is likely more accurate...
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Unread 02-14-2009, 07:03 AM   #10
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Why can't that stupid twat keep her mouth shut? Mike probably hit it right on the head: the libs want to actively cause problems. Anything to discredit President Bush.
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Hmmm http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090214/...as/as_pakistan. I suppose that was their warning?
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Unread 02-17-2009, 02:39 PM   #12
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What can we do. Oh yeah! We are doing it. We will just bitch in cyberspace and wish someone else would do something about it.

Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
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Unread 02-17-2009, 02:43 PM   #13
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What can we do. Oh yeah! We are doing it. We will just bitch in cyberspace and wish someone else would do something about it.

Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
I suppose you rather just remain silent?

Fuck, I'd like to think discussing such things on the internet would at least help get the word to others.

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Fuck, I'd like to think discussing such things on the internet would at least help get the word to others.

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Sadly, the "others" will also have no effect at all. In reality, these internet grumblings do not make things happen. It's just a way for people to vent and nothing more.

Meanwhile, the politicians and the president will continue to take action and the majority of Americans will support them.
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Sadly, the "others" will also have no effect at all. In reality, these internet grumblings do not make things happen. It's just a way for people to vent and nothing more.

Meanwhile, the politicians and the president will continue to take action and the majority of Americans will support them.
Believe what you will. I rather not feel like we have already been defeated, and that we still have a choice in our future path.

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Unread 02-17-2009, 03:25 PM   #16
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UAV's in Pakistan lolol .... unless you know what your talking about.
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Believe what you will. I rather not feel like we have already been defeated, and that we still have a choice in our future path.

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We always have a choice. What is chatting about the politicians on the internet going to accomplish though?
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We always have a choice. What is chatting about the politicians on the internet going to accomplish though?
More than remaining silent. If it puts a thought in a sheeple's head that all isn't well then it has done more then saying nothing.

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