Diamonds are for GIRLZ [Archive]

MouseKiller

04-29-2003, 03:36 AM

Taught another turbo mitsu a lesson this morning. Spanked him, waited up on him, nailed it again and spanked him, waited up again, and spanked him yet again. All the time my AC was on too! He he he, I bet he thought it was just a stock old beat up 86 GT. Then again, my GT is not far from stock and it breathes unpressurized air for the moment. (I will have that Blowzilla!)

This example of the diamond star jubilee club was a black Talon that sounded like he dumped his whole exhaust. It was louder than my GT by a good margin, I could actually hear his engine over mine! Otherwise the mitsu clone was devoid of most bling bling, rice stickers, and emblems. Looked pretty stock, like maybe he was trying to make a sleeper for baiting Honda Tweakers? I dunno, but I do know this, if one of Grapevine's finest catches him with not Cat he is gonna be paying a STIFF fine.

I am pretty sure it was a completely stock mitsu with dropped exhaust. If it was modified then it was one really slow POS.

Cammin4V

04-29-2003, 04:04 AM

Huh?:confused:

AbecX

04-29-2003, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by Daniel6401
Huh?:confused:
He is saying the turbo'd eclipse/talons are junk and slow.

I would have to agree.

ThreeFingerPete

04-29-2003, 03:32 PM

im going to disagree. i think the dsm offer great bang for the buck.

adam

Jimbo

04-29-2003, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by AbecX
He is saying the turbo'd eclipse/talons are junk and slow.

I would have to agree.

Are you joking? DSM's can be made into serious street brawlers for less cash than any other awd turbo platform. That and they have been out there long enough that there are plenty of mods and experienced folk that can do it, some fairly cheaply.

BTW, mousekiller, that noise was probably the external wastegate vented into the open.

Hurley

04-30-2003, 11:26 AM

I have an old beat up 90 AWD that I would me more than happy to race you at the track or the street with. It's a DSM with 213,000 miles, how fast could it be?

98DSM

04-30-2003, 12:25 PM

LOL, it amazes me that some people are so naive into thinking that because a car is old or because it happens to only have 4 cylinders, it must be slow or a pos. I'm not saying I'm the fastest car out there (let alone DSM), which i'm not by a longshot, but I can hold my own. Same old argument, different day. Any car can be made fast with enough money, it just happens that DSM's can be made fairly fast with little $$$ invested. What happens when one of these "Slow" DSM's beats you? I know several in the DFW area making over 400 to the wheels. I guess that is slow though. Okay, rant off.

White_lightning

04-30-2003, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by AbecX
He is saying the turbo'd eclipse/talons are junk and slow.

I would have to agree.
once again.. the uglyhead of ignorance rears itself:) cruz.. next time maybe dont open your mouth;)

dhammans

04-30-2003, 12:52 PM

There are also several running around DFW making over 500hp to the wheels... Of course we can't do that on 93 octane though :D

AbecX

04-30-2003, 07:11 PM

Do you guys carry a leash in your car to walk your crank or does it just walk itself?

Hurley

04-30-2003, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by AbecX
Do you guys carry a leash in your car to walk your crank or does it just walk itself?

Crankwalk only occurs in the 95-98 7 bolt motors. Some of us were luck enough(or cheap enough) to buy the older model cars with the stronger 6 bolt motors:) A crank has never walked in my car and one never will!

AbecX

04-30-2003, 07:43 PM

I still havent seen a fast one, if they were so cheap to mod, I'd see fast ones all the time, at least imho.

I'm sure there is fast ones out there, just from what I've seen they were v6 mustang fast.

Hurley

04-30-2003, 07:58 PM

"Fast" is relative. To myself any turbo 4 cylinder that is ni the 11's is fast. If you race LS1s and Supras, well, 11's just arent all that fast. It isnt that they are expensive to modify, they are expensive to maintain. Just like any other genre of cars, with age DSMs require more and more maintenece. For the checkbook racers, it adds up real fast. You can easily drop the price of the car by just doing a bunch of small things that need "doing". However, if you are like me and dont mind spending some time under the hood of my car to save some money, its not that bad. Are DSMs the end all be all car? Nope. Are they the fastest of thing on the road? Hell no. Are they a great car for suprising the shit out of people? You betcha!

BTW, I'll be shooting for some low 13's/ high 12's at Ennis this Friday if I can get my new clutch put in:)

Hurley

04-30-2003, 08:07 PM

Heres a link to a pretty fast "street" Talon running a 10.76

http://www.wichitaracing.com/vids/talon/

He is running a L2R Garrett/Mitsu hybrid turbo, FMIC, forged pistons, 3 inch exhaust and HKS cams. I'm sure he's running fuel control like AEM EMS or something but I dont know what it is. Not "OMG slap yo' mama!" fast, but I bet it would turn a few heads on the track/ street.

98DSM

04-30-2003, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by AbecX
I still havent seen a fast one, if they were so cheap to mod, I'd see fast ones all the time, at least imho.

I'm sure there is fast ones out there, just from what I've seen they were v6 mustang fast.

Heh, your right, most of them out there probably are fairly "Slow" to a fbody. Considering that only 5% of the population of dsm's were turbo model's, that's not alot. Everywhere you look around, you seem to see a LS1. What I want to know is where are you people when I'm on the hwy :mad: Like Hurley said, are we the fastest? Nope. But if you run against a highly modified one, look out :) A friend of mine trapped 12.2@104 on pumpgas a few weeks ago at Ennis slamming on the brakes hard. In my book, thats pretty fast and it could easily be his daily driver if he wanted it to be.

RoadTalonTSI

05-01-2003, 01:33 AM

v6 mustang fast. Ok my lifted 4x4 bronco can take a v6 mustang. I bet the Dsm you raced was some MEXI-ride with a leaky exhaust, for all you know he had some kind of whiney belt that you thought was a turbo. I have a black Dsm, 91' Stock except for the clutch and air filter, i almost beat a z28 with exhaust the other day. He was no bad driver. He let off at 50 right where a dsm's real power comes in, and only had me by a car or half a car. Sorry a stock i4 w/ 135k thats 12 years old is still competition for a z28 ( 95 or newer) i just personally think thats sad. I raced a blacked out 5.0 last week and beat him. His exhaust was louder then my trucks if he even had one. I raped him 3 cars. Oh not to forget i raced a 99+ mustang gt w/ chip, exhaust, tires, intake that was dyno'd at like 350 rwhp...he let off at 70, he had me by 3 cars once again this wasn't a bad stick driver. Dont talk bad about Dsm. Oh i believe i just read ya'll do 5-lug conversions... HAHAHA we come with 5lugs and we have an I-4 2.0L motor...that is if were stock. ;) I think my dads town car has 5 too. A sports car coming with 5....Chevy's all have 6. Dont get me wrong Atleast its a ford...mom owns a 98 gt had no problems. But sorry i dont appreciate the 4.6 or 5.0 motor. I prefer my 351w definately a lot more competitive hehehe, never lost to an I-4 with it. Hmmmm... DSM OWNZ YOU!

AbecX

05-01-2003, 05:55 AM

Originally posted by RoadTalonTSI
v6 mustang fast. Ok my lifted 4x4 bronco can take a v6 mustang. I bet the Dsm you raced was some MEXI-ride with a leaky exhaust, for all you know he had some kind of whiney belt that you thought was a turbo. I have a black Dsm, 91' Stock except for the clutch and air filter, i almost beat a z28 with exhaust the other day. He was no bad driver. He let off at 50 right where a dsm's real power comes in, and only had me by a car or half a car. Sorry a stock i4 w/ 135k thats 12 years old is still competition for a z28 ( 95 or newer) i just personally think thats sad. I raced a blacked out 5.0 last week and beat him. His exhaust was louder then my trucks if he even had one. I raped him 3 cars. Oh not to forget i raced a 99+ mustang gt w/ chip, exhaust, tires, intake that was dyno'd at like 350 rwhp...he let off at 70, he had me by 3 cars once again this wasn't a bad stick driver. Dont talk bad about Dsm. Oh i believe i just read ya'll do 5-lug conversions... HAHAHA we come with 5lugs and we have an I-4 2.0L motor...that is if were stock. ;) I think my dads town car has 5 too. A sports car coming with 5....Chevy's all have 6. Dont get me wrong Atleast its a ford...mom owns a 98 gt had no problems. But sorry i dont appreciate the 4.6 or 5.0 motor. I prefer my 351w definately a lot more competitive hehehe, never lost to an I-4 with it. Hmmmm... DSM OWNZ YOU!
You're a moron. Want to race my stock 2000 z28 and see how many car lengths I put on you? I'll even make it fair and race you to 120.

kiLLj0y

05-01-2003, 08:16 AM

RoadTalonTSI is just ruining all credability for the turbo DSM world with his insane babbling.

98DSM

05-01-2003, 09:16 AM

Heh, I've seen worse. We all lose our cool sometimes. He feels passionate about his car, what can I say :) The V6 mustang comparison was just too much imo. They weren't all that fast until '99 btw. Before that, they were very slow and any stock "Turbo" dsm would kill a pre '99 V6 stang. I think they were rated at 160hp?

Hurley

05-01-2003, 11:10 AM

I would like to apologize for RoadTalonTSI right now. I own a DSM and have no illusions about how fast my car is. AbecX, dont pick on him too bad I'm sure he has no idea what the difference between a LT1 and an LS1 F body is.

bcoop

05-01-2003, 11:23 AM

What about that 700hp 92 white AWD talon? He was by no means slow. I can't remember what it said along his car, but I know it was the name of his shop. Chris is the dude's name that used to drive it. HE was always out there spanking the shit out of LS1's, vipers, and damn near everything that would pull up to the line. Shit I can't remember the name of his shop. Agressive Motorsports or something. It was in Arlington off of 303. By the way, I HATE ricers, but I know there are a few fast ones.

331coupe

05-01-2003, 11:32 AM

I have a carbed 302 85GT, 3.08's, and steel cords showing through on the Drag Radials. some kid in an older style gs-x revs at me, and it actually didn't sound too bad. (didn't like it at all, but wasn't really loud and terrible sounding) anyway, we raced from the light and through first gear his rear end was at my door, nailed second, and pulled up where the front of his car was at my front wheel, third pulled about a car ahead. he was quick off the line, but power was no match for the V8. he followed me into sonic and asked me about my car, and I asked him as well. he said something about downpipe, t-3/t-4 hybrid. exhaust, blah blah. he said the cams were reground. he said he runs 12.80's I am not sure if he does or not.

White_lightning

05-01-2003, 12:22 PM

LOL!.. a stock+ filter dsm haning with a z28??LOL! not even an lt1!!!! put down the pipe....
dont discount DSMs.. there are several around here that are monsters...when ihad my 93 awd NO one beat me from a stop.. the only time i took it to the track i pulled a 1.72 60' on 17" 35 series street tires...

I know a certain Red dsm thats is going to be fairly lethal when done..

Hurley

05-01-2003, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by White_lightning
I know a certain Red dsm thats is going to be fairly lethal when done..

;) :D

Schargedcobra97

05-01-2003, 03:49 PM

how bout those dsm's breaking tranny's and burning clutches regularly... some dsm's are fast 98% are slow.. 100% of dsm's race for less than 1/8 mile.. cuz of their launch.. i raced a white one (chubby ugy driving) in a 97 conv cobra with 4 people.. he launched on me about a car.. but guess who won on top end baby.. :D (that be me).. my only mods were full exaust and 150 shot and 373.. oh and nitto drags

White_lightning

05-01-2003, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
some dsm's are fast 98% are slow.. 100% of dsm's race for less than 1/8 mile..
sound to me like you are talking more about mustangs then DSMs:)

Schargedcobra97

05-01-2003, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by White_lightning
sound to me like you are talking more about mustangs then DSMs:)

i see you are hard of hearing lol.. :D .. anywas i see "VIolator" on DSM posted my quote hahah

to reply to the guy who posted on dfsdsm...

no he wasn't stock he was from Alamo motorsport.. and he rolled with 2 other dsm's one was a faster red one..

Killwicky

05-01-2003, 07:43 PM

;) Example of one that isn't too slow (http://www.killwicky.com/my_talon/texfp3055.jpg)

White_lightning

05-01-2003, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
i see you are hard of hearing lol.. :D .. anywas i see "VIolator" on DSM posted my quote hahah

to reply to the guy who posted on dfsdsm...

no he wasn't stock he was from Alamo motorsport.. and he rolled with 2 other dsm's one was a faster red one..

not hard of hearing.. just it seems 99.9% of the stangs i have raced have talked big and ended up being slow:)

Schargedcobra97

05-01-2003, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by Killwicky
;) Example of one that isn't too slow (http://www.killwicky.com/my_talon/texfp3055.jpg)

you really want me to post pics of stangs that aren't too slow.. lol..

well im batting about 90 percent vs poopra's

White_lightning

05-01-2003, 08:49 PM

well. i would HOPE that a supercharged V8 wouldn't have any problems with a bolt on 6 banger.... i ran havent had a problem with most stock motored blow stangs.. be it 2 v or 4 v:)

Schargedcobra97

05-01-2003, 09:15 PM

lol.. bolt on two turbos.. some who have big ole single turbos...
damn you bpu
bpu +
bpu++
bpu+++
bpu++++
bpu+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
you get the damn point.. can anyone understand the damn plus after 3

White_lightning

05-01-2003, 09:23 PM

lol:) like i said. havent had a problem with any stang i have raced:) 470 rwhp 03.... 440 rhwp 98.. 410 rwhp 99.. and it goes on and on and on..

and the turbos are stock.. much like the 03 cobra.. i dont see anyone telling the 03 guys to pull off their blowers when NA ls1s are draggin dat asss!!!!

Schargedcobra97

05-01-2003, 09:25 PM

im only at 425.. so you should beat me.. what rwhp do you have.. by the way have u run freakz with his new setup.. i know it was close before??

White_lightning

05-01-2003, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Schargedcobra97
im only at 425.. so you should beat me.. what rwhp do you have.. by the way have u run freakz with his new setup.. i know it was close before??

havent run him on his new setup.. with my clutch slipping and a leaking HG.. i was able to pull him on his old setup from a 60 roll

HobieF3

05-01-2003, 09:53 PM

slvr01

05-02-2003, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by RoadTalonTSI
Oh not to forget i raced a 99+ mustang gt w/ chip, exhaust, tires, intake that was dyno'd at like 350 rwhp...

I think 350 rwhp for those mods are total b.s. Your either exaggerating or someone has been blowing smoke up your ass. I could only wish to get those results from exhaust,chip and intake. Maybe he had a tornado also.:rolleyes: When do tires have anything with horsepower?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

AbecX

05-02-2003, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by slvr01
When do tires have anything with horsepower?
Low pressure drag radials ( 10psi - 15psi ) dyno less then tires at factory spec'd psi.

RoadTalonTSI

05-03-2003, 01:10 PM

he said it had 350, im just repeating, obviously he was wrong. tires meaning he had better grip and a drop vs my crap ass dayton tires and stock 135k 12yr old susp. i know a lot of ya'll are fast. just know were not exactly slow. I know im not really most ya'll competition but for you stockers i can be. btw raced another z28 last night, the end of his door was at my front bumper at like 60, maybe slower then the other one cuz he has like a 300+lb bubba riding shotty. not sure what yea, i was too busy watching an AMG-Benz :mad: come after me, i've never seen one move before, there was a black guy driving it and it was just gorgeous you could tell he'd done his share of pimpin. Dont start another war over this post too. Im just trying to make a point even as stock we can still compete with many. And as modified for EL CHEAPO $$ we can be really quick. Just give the I4 some credit, its not like its a kia or hyundai...
I'll play with ur z28 sometime,sounds like ill lose but it'll be fun. 2000cc VS 350CI lolz

JKD

05-04-2003, 01:29 AM

I am by no means jumpin on the DSM bandwagon, but I rode in Andy Krafts Eclipse a few years back and that mofo was FAST ! Low 11's on street tires and I believe he won the Import Nationals in that car too. He used to race the crotch rockets for fun and they couldnt believe how fast his car was. When I see a AWD DSM, I dont take them lightly.