Launching/Racing skills

[SVT Lurch]

If you haven't heard, I ran a 14.03 @ 102.64 at Ennis two weeks ago, with 300rwhp. Given it was my first time at the track, and I'm still getting used to the blower still pathetic.

So, who wants to help me learn to launch/race better (without powershifting, I want my car to stay in one piece as long as possible)

[GARS04]

Originally posted by BossShinoda
If you haven't heard, I ran a 14.03 @ 102.64 at Ennis two weeks ago, with 300rwhp. Given it was my first time at the track, and I'm still getting used to the blower still pathetic.

So, who wants to help me learn to launch/race better (without powershifting, I want my car to stay in one piece as long as possible)

Sounds like you need a serious driver mod !!

Bring it back out to the monday night GTG and well see if its any faster on the highway............
;)

[90GT50]

Originally posted by BossShinoda
If you haven't heard, I ran a 14.03 @ 102.64 at Ennis two weeks ago, with 300rwhp. Given it was my first time at the track, and I'm still getting used to the blower still pathetic.

So, who wants to help me learn to launch/race better (without powershifting, I want my car to stay in one piece as long as possible)
get some slicks, and launch at 5500, that should help;)

[Cammin4V]

Sell it and buy a fast car.:p

[90GT50]

Originally posted by Daniel6401
Sell it and buy a fast car.:p lol, that too!

[Ylw 98~~SNAKE~~]

V6 rims or draglites whatever 26x8.5 ET Drags 11 psi. Raise rpm to 5-6K dump clutch on third yellow. Preload the shifter to 2nd gear at shiftpoint tap the clutch with gas to the floor. Repeat that at 3rd gear shift and 4th if you dont have alot of gear. Your gonna have to drive that thing like you hate the MOFO and you'll go a hell of alot faster. Lighten the car up remove the seats front sway bar etc every lil bit helps.if you have 18's dont race with them they numerically lower your rear ratio and slow you down they look good but thats about it. put all 300 to the ground with nice consistant fast shifts and you will can knock 2 seconds off that time. Practice Practice

[AL P]

That actually isn't that BAD of a time if you have never driven the car at the track before. There is going to be a fine line between wheelspin and traction with those tires. Try launching at about 2200 RPM or so but don't just dump the clutch, you want to let it out, not too fast or it will spin, not too slow or it will bog. If I had to guess I would say you would need to have about three quarter of a second's worth of time going from having the clutch in all the way to having the pedal all the way up. That time starting when the third yellow lights up.

I had a friend with a 6 psi powerdyne on his 95 GT and he ran 14.0s and 14.teens all night, this car was making about 320 to 340 at the wheels, he asked me to drive and I did just what I described above and the car went 13.94 @106 mph.

[SVT Lurch]

Originally posted by GARS02GSTA
Bring it back out to the monday night GTG and well see if its any faster on the highway............;) I'
m on my way right now

BTW thanks for the inpout guys, I'll try it out next time I go to the track and let you know how I fare.

[Beej]

All I can say is practice, practice, practice.

I have 2-300 pass under my belt, and I am still learning. It takes time, and practice. Ohh and a good set of stickies.

[GRAYHORSE]

Originally posted by BossShinoda
If you haven't heard, I ran a 14.03 @ 102.64 at Ennis two weeks ago, with 300rwhp. Given it was my first time at the track, and I'm still getting used to the blower still pathetic.

So, who wants to help me learn to launch/race better (without powershifting, I want my car to stay in one piece as long as possible)

Wait a min. You have a blower car with 300hp?!!? When did Boss Shinoda start making focuses?? :D

[Cammin4V]

LMAO @ Greg.

[whiteboy]

damn i would get 99 and up heads for that car,

im pushing 300 on motor and my motor is fucked!!

[Jastanginator]

Originally posted by AL P

I had a friend with a 6 psi powerdyne on his 95 GT and he ran 14.0s and 14.teens all night, this car was making about 320 to 340 at the wheels, he asked me to drive and I did just what I described above and the car went 13.94 @106 mph.

Wow. So you took 6 hundreths of a second off his time. Whooptie doo.

[FlowJack]

Originally posted by DarkPony
All I can say is practice, practice, practice.

I have 2-300 pass under my belt, and I am still learning. It takes time, and practice. Ohh and a good set of stickies.

[mikeb]

Traction & practice. And powershifting.

Once you start getting a better short time there are some chassis tuning tricks that can be done to improve the launch.

Expect to start breaking stuff :D

[P.O.S._Dubyuharex]

Wait a minute, you don't have 300 RW!! hahaha

[Sergio]

Originally posted by whiteboy
im pushing 300 on motor and my motor is fucked!!

Doubt it!

[AL P]

Originally posted by Jastanginator
Wow. So you took 6 hundreths of a second off his time. Whooptie doo.

Where did I say he ran 14.00? You need to work on your math, dumbass....

[Jastanginator]

First of all, let's chill out a little here. I know I sounded like a dick, but I was just jokin, cause I was pretty sure you just made a type-0 or something.

But, look at what you wrote:

I had a friend with a 6 psi powerdyne on his 95 GT and he ran 14.0s and 14.teens all night, this car was making about 320 to 340 at the wheels, he asked me to drive and I did just what I described above and the car went 13.94 @106 mph.

"He ran 14.0s....."
"he asked me to drive...the car went 13.94.."

14.0-13.94 = .06. Or, six hundreths of a second.

My math is fine.

[SVT Lurch]

Originally posted by whiteboy
damn i would get 99 and up heads for that car that's the next mod

Originally posted by BLACK96STROKER
Wait a min. You have a blower car with 300hp?!!? When did Boss Shinoda start making focuses?? :D *flips the bird*

see above

[YoBro]

Give me the keys and I will find out how fast that car is.

[SVT Lurch]

Originally posted by YoBro
Give me the keys and I will find out how fast that car is. NO because...

Originally posted by BossShinoda
So, who wants to help me learn to launch/race better (without powershifting, I want my car to stay in one piece as long as possible)

[Beej]

Originally posted by BossShinoda
NO because...


well, if you learn how to do it right, you wont hurt a thing, I power shift mine all the time, I have over 100 passes on this car, and I powershift every pass, I also had 100+ passes on my old car, and I powershifted it everytime. Learn to do it right, and you wont hurt it.


btw my old car was a 98 with 10+ pounds of vortech boost going threw it.

[SVT Lurch]

Originally posted by DarkPony
well, if you learn how to do it right, you wont hurt a thing, I power shift mine all the time, I have over 100 passes on this car, and I powershift every pass, I also had 100+ passes on my old car, and I powershifted it everytime. Learn to do it right, and you wont hurt it.


btw my old car was a 98 with 10+ pounds of vortech boost going threw it. teach me

[aggie97]

Darkpony is right. Practice is the best mod ever right next to sticky tires. Mikeb is right about starting to break stuff too.......Believe me I know!!!!:rolleyes:

If you are getting 300 to the wheels, you are spinning badly to trap at 102 unless you have an auto (you have a 5spd?).

Basically, you have to drive the car like you are trying to blow it up and you will get better times. I would think a perfect run for you would be 12.7's with traction if you have that much power.

Look at my sig and you will see what 5500-6000rpm launches on Sticky ET streets will net you with only 250/296 and no interior and no power shifting. then you can compare raceweights and power to see how much you have to improve.

I only wish I had your power right now!!!!!

[Beej]

Originally posted by aggie97
Darkpony is right. Practice is the best mod ever right next to sticky tires. Mikeb is right about starting to break stuff too.......Believe me I know!!!!:rolleyes:

If you are getting 300 to the wheels, you are spinning badly to trap at 102 unless you have an auto (you have a 5spd?).

Basically, you have to drive the car like you are trying to blow it up and you will get better times. I would think a perfect run for you would be 12.7's with traction if you have that much power.

Look at my sig and you will see what 5500-6000rpm launches on Sticky ET streets will net you with only 250/296 and no interior and no power shifting. then you can compare raceweights and power to see how much you have to improve.

I only wish I had your power right now!!!!!

I have his power right now :D

[whiteboy]

HEY POS , YOU DOUBT I HAVE 300H.P?? YOUR SUCH A DUMB BITCH

[GTek]

Is that shifting without letting off of the gas? Is it shifting without using the clutch?

Just like the double-clutching thing, it seems everyone I talk to has a completely different answer. It's got me all confused.

[FlowJack]

Originally posted by GTek
Is that shifting without letting off of the gas? Is it shifting without using the clutch?

Not taking your foot off the gas when you shift!

[AL P]

Originally posted by Jastanginator
First of all, let's chill out a little here. I know I sounded like a dick, but I was just jokin, cause I was pretty sure you just made a type-0 or something.

But, look at what you wrote:



"He ran 14.0s....."
"he asked me to drive...the car went 13.94.."

14.0-13.94 = .06. Or, six hundreths of a second.

My math is fine.

Then you also need to work on your comprehension. 14.0s DOESN'T mean 14.00...it could mean anything from 14.01 to 14.09.

Like I said, I never said he went 14.00

Now tell me your math is right.

Dumbass.

[mike]

Originally posted by AL P
Then you also need to work on your comprehension. 14.0s DOESN'T mean 14.00...it could mean anything from 14.01 to 14.09.

Like I said, I never said he went 14.00

Now tell me your math is right.

Dumbass.


Nice a new member is fucking with AL P. How soon till he tells you he is going to kick your ass, so we watch him shit him self when he sees you. This should be alot of fun.

[Jastanginator]

Whatever guys. Obviously no one can take a joke. I'm not going to provoke this any more, because obviously cool heads cannot prevail.

[aggie97]

Originally posted by Jastanginator
Whatever guys. Obviously no one can take a joke. I'm not going to provoke this any more, because obviously cool heads cannot prevail.

Actually, they already have!!!

BJ, Fuck You!!!:D

[AL P]

Originally posted by Jastanginator
Whatever guys. Obviously no one can take a joke. I'm not going to provoke this any more, because obviously cool heads cannot prevail.

Evidently neither can good math skills!

[TexasDevilDog]

Originally posted by BossShinoda
If you haven't heard, I ran a 14.03 @ 102.64

I feel your pain.

<- Mid 13s @ 105

[SC457A]

here is another little tip..

not sure when you ran your 14 sec pass, but usually friday nights at plex is kinda tough to get a good 60'... at least it used to be.
try and run early in the test and tune or if they spray the track again be close to the front then... also try run after big tired cars.

if you want a good track.. it costs more and less runs but track is much better prepped on sat bracket races. in my datsun my 60's drop from 1.85-1.90 ranges to 1.75-1.70s from firday to sat night... my dragster goes 1.18s to 1.13s and thats a 16.5 inch tire!!!

[SVT Lurch]

I was told
speed shifting: going through the gears as fast as you can using clutch and letting off gas
power shifting: using clutch but not letting off ags
not sure what to call it when you don't use the clutch
Also, not sure on double clutching... correct me if necessary

I went to Ennis on Friday but was there at like 6:30 so the track was in pretty good shape, I think.

Car is a 5-speed

BTW DarkPony, if you have my power, what did you run, on what tires, and what kind of shifting?

[034V]

Trey, you almost HAVE to powershift the 96's to keep the timing up there.. Those EEC-V's are designed to take out ALOT of timing between shifts:D Get a twEECer;)

[SVT Lurch]

Originally posted by MOD95snake
Get a twEECer;) http://www.phpforums-modracing.net/upload/html/emoticons/flipbird.gif I told you I don't want to mess with a twEECer

[TexasDevilDog]

Originally posted by BossShinoda
http://www.phpforums-modracing.net/upload/html/emoticons/flipbird.gif I told you I don't want to mess with a twEECer

I got one and was able to detune my cobra by 20hp when I dynoed it this weekend. :rolleyes:

[034V]

Yeah they are a BIG pain if you dont know what to do with them(not saying you dont)... I was in that same boat for a while:D

[SVT Lurch]

Originally posted by MOD95snake
I was in that same boat for a while:D you need to tune it to run without an I/C or go buy one when we get payed

[P.O.S._Dubyuharex]

Originally posted by whiteboy
HEY POS , YOU DOUBT I HAVE 300H.P?? YOUR SUCH A DUMB BITCH

First of all you dumb motherfucker I was talking to Boss Shinoda.

Second of all. No I don't think you have 300 RW either. It doesn't matter anyway, because you couldn't beat me even if you did. hahaha

Thanks for playin.

[32VfromHell]

double clutching is for road racing.

In times (read a corner) that you dont want to have drastic interuptions in your wheel speed, instead of doing a direct downshift, either put in the clutch, blip the throttle or put it in neutral and blip the throttle, then put in the lower gear. This allows a smooth transition between gears, which a abrubt reduction in tire speed can cause a spinout, which isnt very cool at high speed or in heavy traffic on a course.



If you get some 99+ heads, your car will scream boss shinoda. I respect you more now that you have asked for advice, some idiots will just go on and pretend they know what to do and are all john forces or michael shumacher`s.

[SVT Lurch]

Originally posted by P.O.S._Dubyuharex
First of all you dumb motherfucker I was talking to Boss Shinoda. Technically you're right, it dynoed 292.6, but I rounded up

Originally posted by 32VfromHell
If you get some 99+ heads, your car will scream boss shinoda. I respect you more now that you have asked for advice, some idiots will just go on and pretend they know what to do and are all john forces or michael shumacher`s. that's the next mod hopefully. As far as asking for advice, what 17 year old person really KNOWS what they are doing as far as driving. One whole year of experience, and that is just on the road, let alone racing or anything of that sort.

[aggie97]

I have never "double Clutched" a car in my life. It should only be used for early manual trannies that did not have syncros so that you could keep the input shaft spinning between gears.

If you want to learn how to shift a car for certain situations, ride with someone in an Autocross where down shifting is used HEAVILY and go to the track and watch, listen and learn. The fast and furious used terms that made the movie even more stupid. Double clutching and Naws were two that come to mind.

You have to learn how to drive a manual well on the street long before you can start banging gears at a track. Knowing what the engine speeds are in each gear for a given mph is very key especially when you are driving at 11/10ths on a road course because down shifting incorrectly can cause a spin like Ryan said, but it can also damage the engine by over revving it. It is a very fine balance of weight transfer and traction and it easily f'd up if done wrong.

[93LXHORSE]

Don't feel bad, STROKD runs 12.70s at 128 !

[11secCobra]

actually strokd ran a 11.2@131