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YoBro

02-23-2003, 02:35 PM

What are the fatsest local 4.6 GTs running?

Tweakd

02-23-2003, 02:37 PM

Fastest I've seen is high 11's around 120mph

SVTVenom

02-23-2003, 03:31 PM

I believe Ozzie from HPP has the one of the fastest if not the fastest N/A 2V around.

aggie97

02-23-2003, 04:16 PM

Ok, please qualify what you are looking for.

1. N/A daily driven car with street tires?
2. N/A all out drag car?
3. Power adder either SC or Nitrous?

Your question is almost as vague as "who has the fastest 'STOCK' LS1?"

Cammin4V

02-23-2003, 04:26 PM

I think there are a few vette killers in MOD?:confused:

YoBro

02-23-2003, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by aggie97
Ok, please qualify what you are looking for.

Street cars w/ power adders.

2cammer97

02-23-2003, 05:38 PM

i believe there are a handful running nitrous or boost that run mid-high 11's at 113-120. i'd bet that jay (leda) is probably capable of more but i don't know if he's been to the track. he has a forged bottom end, ported heads, and a T66. i know he was trappin 118-120 on the stock shortblock/stock heads/and small boost. i haven't seen him post in a while though.

marcus

Sick-4.6

02-23-2003, 07:01 PM

My 2001 Gt runs 11.7 @118 w/ a 1.7 60ft.......

W/ 10 lb vortech and cooler

Dyno 416 RWHP @ 402 RWTQ the last time I dynoed

YoBro

02-23-2003, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Sick-4.6
My 2001 Gt runs 11.7 @118 w/ a 1.7 60ft.......

W/ 10 lb vortech and cooler

Dyno 416 RWHP @ 402 RWTQ the last time I dynoed

Thanks, thats what I was looking for

Sick-4.6

02-23-2003, 09:26 PM

No Prob..

aggie97

02-23-2003, 09:28 PM

Check this thread out over at the corral. It lists by year and power adder or not. I am on the list hopefully soon at #25 on the 99+ NA 2V 1/4 mi and #11 on the 1/8 mi. If he updates it any time soon.

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=178186

TexasDevilDog

02-23-2003, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by aggie97
"who has the fastest 'STOCK' LS1?"

That is totally vague, that can mean anything from first time off the dealer's lot to having a heads and cam.

ozzie

02-23-2003, 10:11 PM

We are hoping for mid to low 11's n/a. But we have taken alot of weight out of the car. You could drive it on the st all day. It just runs on 93 octane. But it is set up for a class. We will be runing the big bore 2v in fun ford @fla this weekend. I'll let you know how it runs.

The Raven

02-24-2003, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by ozzie
We are hoping for mid to low 11's n/a. But we have taken alot of weight out of the car. You could drive it on the st all day. It just runs on 93 octane. But it is set up for a class. We will be runing the big bore 2v in fun ford @fla this weekend. I'll let you know how it runs.

My car is mid-11 capable. The driver, however, runs 13s.:o

GRAYHORSE

02-24-2003, 08:06 PM

That blk Lone Star Car was running 6.8 in the 1/8. That should be a mid 10 second car.

Beej

02-24-2003, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by BLACK96STROKER
That blk Lone Star Car was running 6.8 in the 1/8. That should be a mid 10 second car.

I would like to see the time slip for that. I have never heard of that car going that fast.

FlowJack

02-24-2003, 08:17 PM

I'm slow but getting faster.

34. FlowJack – 12.15 @ 110.63 (2002 GT 5 SPD – NX)
4. FlowJack – 7.60 @ 89.04 (2002 GT 5 SPD – NX)

I expect to lower those a good bit this weekend.;)

Cooter

02-24-2003, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Daniel6401
I think there are a few vette killers in MOD?:confused:

yeah... the things they can do with stock headed 96-98 2V engines are amazing!!! :eek: :rolleyes:

Forrest

GRAYHORSE

02-24-2003, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by DarkPony
I would like to see the time slip for that. I have never heard of that car going that fast.

That's what it was running three weeks ago at Redline.

aggie97

02-24-2003, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by FlowJack
I'm slow but getting faster.

34. FlowJack – 12.15 @ 110.63 (2002 GT 5 SPD – NX)
4. FlowJack – 7.60 @ 89.04 (2002 GT 5 SPD – NX)

I expect to lower those a good bit this weekend.;)

Yeah, go back and find the 99+ 2V na list and you will find me at #24 on the 1/4 and #11 on the 1/8 mi. Once you go realize that all of the cars ahead of me are running heads, cams and longtubes, I have to ask "who's your daddy?". I am seriously thinking of adding the heads, cams, and longtubes just to put those pussies on the coral in their place........too bad my wallet won't allow it right now!!:D

2cammer97

02-24-2003, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by aggie97
Yeah, go back and find the 99+ 2V na list and you will find me at #24 on the 1/4 and #11 on the 1/8 mi. Once you go realize that all of the cars ahead of me are running heads, cams and longtubes, I have to ask "who's your daddy?". I am seriously thinking of adding the heads, cams, and longtubes just to put those pussies on the coral in their place........too bad my wallet won't allow it right now!!:D

matt, letherneck still has you beat. he ran an 8.1 in his with fewer mods than you, but he did have 4.30's. you are runnin strong in your car, so is flowjack. now that you broke your rear i'm scared to put slicks back on. oh well, i plan to do 31 spline/eaton rear in the next few months.

marcus

aggie97

02-24-2003, 10:50 PM

Marcus, if you plan on doing the eaton, go to drivetraindirect.com or randy's drive train. I bought my Eaton for $305. cheapest I found it advertised in any magazine was $435 and locally was $369. with shipping, 3 quarts of gear oil, and modifier, it was $350. Axles were $239 and diff girdle was $129.00.

As for letherneck being faster, i am sure he is with 4.30's and power shifting. comparing some of my time slips with BJ when we are running side by side, I have determined that not power shifting is costing me almost .3 seconds in the quarter and a little less than .2 seconds in the 1/8th. With the way I have been driving the car and taking the best of every measurement, the best it will run is an 8.203 in the 1/8, and a 12.966 in the 1/4.

I still don't beleive some of the MPH they are posting on the corral. some have fewer mods than my car and are trapping 105? they must have 4.10's or higher which I think would help my car but who knows. My slicks are a good bit taller than my stock tires and the car feels sluggish at the track. maybe 4.10's might be in my future if time and money are good.

I too after breaking the rearend am scared especially after spending what I just did on the car. I am going to take it easy for a while and maybe go to ennis some time in march. i don't feel like wasting the clutch on the 1/8 anymore. If I am going to race, it will be at ennis shooting for 12's.

ozzie

02-25-2003, 10:56 AM

aggie with the 4.30's you will run quicker for sure. But your car is running real dam good for what it has. 12.9 is good.

aggie97

02-25-2003, 11:52 AM

Thanks ozzie, hopefully sometime soon I might come by and pickup a set of blower cams from you. I haven't quite settled myself on regrinds yet but it appears they are OK.

I know they will probably only net 10rwhp without doing the heads and longtubes but hey, every bit helps at this power level. Eventually, I will put a vortech on the car so it will go with future mods and sound pretty cool to boot.

FlowJack

02-25-2003, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by aggie97
Yeah, go back and find the 99+ 2V na list and you will find me at #24 on the 1/4 and #11 on the 1/8 mi. Once you go realize that all of the cars ahead of me are running heads, cams and longtubes, I have to ask "who's your daddy?". I am seriously thinking of adding the heads, cams, and longtubes just to put those pussies on the coral in their place........too bad my wallet won't allow it right now!!:D

Get your 12's first and then go heads, cams, and longtubes....deep to low 12's N/A will be very nice!

32VfromHell

02-25-2003, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by aggie97
Marcus, if you plan on doing the eaton, go to drivetraindirect.com or randy's drive train. I bought my Eaton for $305. cheapest I found it advertised in any magazine was $435 and locally was $369. with shipping, 3 quarts of gear oil, and modifier, it was $350. Axles were $239 and diff girdle was $129.00.

As for letherneck being faster, i am sure he is with 4.30's and power shifting. comparing some of my time slips with BJ when we are running side by side, I have determined that not power shifting is costing me almost .3 seconds in the quarter and a little less than .2 seconds in the 1/8th. With the way I have been driving the car and taking the best of every measurement, the best it will run is an 8.203 in the 1/8, and a 12.966 in the 1/4.

I still don't beleive some of the MPH they are posting on the corral. some have fewer mods than my car and are trapping 105? they must have 4.10's or higher which I think would help my car but who knows. My slicks are a good bit taller than my stock tires and the car feels sluggish at the track. maybe 4.10's might be in my future if time and money are good.

I too after breaking the rearend am scared especially after spending what I just did on the car. I am going to take it easy for a while and maybe go to ennis some time in march. i don't feel like wasting the clutch on the 1/8 anymore. If I am going to race, it will be at ennis shooting for 12's.

When my wonderful Mustang Shop rear end blew up 30 feet from my parking garage, i also checked DrivetrainDirect and talked to one of the techs there trying to figure out a good setup, and frankly, they were more expensive than i imagined. A fully built 31-spline, 4.10 geared, Eaton HD 8.8 was $1900 , i cant remember if thats before shipping or not.

Now you know how i got to feeling , its hard to launch hard or do anything now after you replace expensive parts. You also gotta remember some of those guys on the corral race in the east, with those mineshaft level tracks which have great prep work.

aggie97

02-25-2003, 02:39 PM

Yeah, prep work all the way down the track and not just the first 80'!!!!!

32VfromHell

02-25-2003, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by aggie97
Yeah, prep work all the way down the track and not just the first 80'!!!!!

also what sucks is during the "warm" season, with a warm track surface, a brisk day with a nice wind at their backs.

SteveD

02-26-2003, 02:41 PM

SVTVenom the NA car you are refering to is owned and built by Houston Performance. Ozzy was our driver in the Ennis race and he will be driving it in Florida if our shop truck makes it.........Later

96MysticSC

03-03-2003, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by DarkPony
I would like to see the time slip for that. I have never heard of that car going that fast.

It does go that fast! Best time to date is 10.39@124...done at Ennis last November.

HobieF3

03-03-2003, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by DarkPony
I would like to see the time slip for that. I have never heard of that car going that fast.

I will vouch for that, but that car has ALOT of money in it. It gets faster all the time though :D

lethrneck

03-03-2003, 06:43 PM

11.7 @ 113

Aggie, I have never power shifted my car, and I have a stock long block TB to oil pan. The last time out when it was still N/A was at Denton, I ran an 8.1 @ 83 in 1500+ DA. That would have been a 105+ trap in the 1/4, so it can be done, even in hot/muggy Texas weather.

Robert

MustangJohn

03-03-2003, 06:50 PM

Don't know what my 1/4 time is but i am pushing 405 rwhp soon to be 430rwhp as soon as I get my lazy ass to alabama to tune and get my new goodies :D
It is a vette killer by far!!!! 1/8th mile time was 8.34@87.317. That was with a shity r/t and spinning the first 100 feet

aggie97

03-03-2003, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by lethrneck
11.7 @ 113

Aggie, I have never power shifted my car, and I have a stock long block TB to oil pan. The last time out when it was still N/A was at Denton, I ran an 8.1 @ 83 in 1500+ DA. That would have been a 105+ trap in the 1/4, so it can be done, even in hot/muggy Texas weather.

Robert

Not shooting any hate your way....all is cool. I have been damn close to 8.1x in the 1/8 but I just don't have any mph. If you look at my dyno graph, the car just falls flat on it's face after about 4000 rpm on torque and about 5000rpm on hp. My guess is it is running too rich as the a/f ratio goes richer than 13:1 after 4000 rpm. I think a true tune is in order for this car but after this weekend, I am convinced I don't want to waste any parts on the car searching for that magic .1 seconds.

MustangJohn

03-03-2003, 09:20 PM

I call bullshit. Are you saying you ran 8.1 stock? No bolt on's including NOS? Stock!?!? I have a hard time beliving that. I may be wrong, but I would like to see a gt straight from the showroom to the track do that. If it does than my 405 rwhp Vortech V2 SQ powered 4.6 must be slow as hell. That also includes the LS1's I have torn up on the track also.

z28ss21

03-03-2003, 10:00 PM

2cammer97

03-03-2003, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by MustangJohn
I call bullshit. Are you saying you ran 8.1 stock? No bolt on's including NOS? Stock!?!? I have a hard time beliving that. I may be wrong, but I would like to see a gt straight from the showroom to the track do that. If it does than my 405 rwhp Vortech V2 SQ powered 4.6 must be slow as hell. That also includes the LS1's I have torn up on the track also.

actually your car should go faster, ET wise and mph wise. there are 4 guys on here that have run 8.10-8.30 in the 1/8 with their 99+GT's. they all just have gears, slicks, weight removed, and simple boltons.

my car has trapped 84.xx in the 1/8 and that was my first trip out with the new motor. should trap 85 with more practice. i am NA and only make 287 rwhp with my 4.6 2V. with your 400+rwhp you should be trapping atleast 89-91 mph in the 1/8 and running in the 7's. slap on some slicks and keep practicing.

marcus

FlowJack

03-03-2003, 11:53 PM

lethrneck

03-04-2003, 05:38 AM

aggie, it's cool.

z28ss21, thank's for the back up.

MustangJohn, I never said anything about being stock. I had an offroad H, pulley's, C&L MAF, Spintech mufflers, 4.30's, dyno tune by Dmann, slicks, and weight removed. With those mods it dyno'd 253rwhp.

Robert

aggie97

03-04-2003, 10:27 AM

Lethrneck, I am right there with you with 3.73's and I don't have a Dmann tune or the C&L.

Best I have done is an 8.21 with is just knocking on the door of 8.1x. I too dyno'd at 253 and had weight removed.

MustangJohn

03-04-2003, 02:43 PM

I see. makes sence now!! I am still running 3.27's

Originally posted by lethrneck
aggie, it's cool.

z28ss21, thank's for the back up.

MustangJohn, I never said anything about being stock. I had an offroad H, pulley's, C&L MAF, Spintech mufflers, 4.30's, dyno tune by Dmann, slicks, and weight removed. With those mods it dyno'd 253rwhp.

Robert

lethrneck

03-04-2003, 04:20 PM

aggie, those are good times. Keep driving it like you hate it and if there’s anything I can help with just let me know. Good luck,

Robert

aggie97

03-04-2003, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by lethrneck
aggie, those are good times. Keep driving it like you hate it and if there’s anything I can help with just let me know. Good luck,

Robert

Yeah, driving it like I hated it netted me broken rearend!!! I have been a little timid as of late to really beat on the car and the Cruise to Kennedale showed that a bunch. I honestly think if I could get the car to lean out a bit and stay above 13:1, it would run much better on the top end. If Worse comes to worse, i might go to 4.10's since my ET streets are taller than the stock 275/40/17's by a good 1.5 inches. With 4.10's I think the car would pull much harder in 2nd and 3rd and really get the rev's up in 4th for the quarter mile. I think I may go with a super charger later so 3.73's made more sense back when I had the gears done. All in all, I think I am done racing for a while until the next big power gain comes along which may be a while.